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08-02-2007 07:15 PM  13 years ago
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huey nut

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thoughts on blade set up out of the box??
what set up do these things need right out of the box to be able to do alittle hovering???? thoughts from any and all blade owners cp owners
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08-02-2007 07:34 PM  13 years ago
jeff000

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My CPP didnt need anything out of the box. At the store the guy had it hovering great (the first one was dead out of the box, nothing would power on, so he tested the second one).
Even after several sets of rotors I can still get it to hover good for me, although I am sure things could use adjusting now.
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08-02-2007 07:43 PM  13 years ago
dignlivn

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If it is a CP Pro, I was
able to hover mine, right out
of the box. I'm sure the blades
will need tracking adjustments.
If it is a BCP, it will need
the blades tracked also, and a
Lipo battery would help. The
Bell Hiller upgrade helps the
BCP also.
Also try putting a extra set (2)
of fly bar weights on. put both
sets of weights out against the
fly bar paddles. This works for
both the Pro and the CP btw.
Hope this helps?

Bob
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08-02-2007 08:07 PM  13 years ago
bilbo

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My BCPP flew great out of the box. I already knew basically how to fly a heli, so as soon as I left the hobby shop I charged the battery in my car and drove to a local park, and flew the heli. Later I went home and balanced the blades and adjusted tracking, and maybe had to adjust the mixer and gyro gain screws on the 3-in-1 to get things perfect, but basically they should be ready to fly out of the box if you are.

I would note though that the "if you are" part is important. It's not the easiest heli to fly, so a common scenario seems to be: new fliers often crash it right away, then probably don't repair it correctly, and proceed to have all sorts of problems with it thereafter.
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08-02-2007 08:12 PM  13 years ago
jeff000

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how does moving the weights close to the paddles help? I'm going to try it, but I am jsut curious as to what it does.

Also how do you ballance the blades and adjust the tracking?
I think mine might need one or both as there is a vibration at slower speeds now that wasnt there when I first got it.
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08-02-2007 08:35 PM  13 years ago
tryan02

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not moving weights adding weights read your manual before you start It discusses flybar weights very well a second set up against the first set next to the paddles, adds weight to the rotor head taming cyclic control. Basically the BCPP especially is to quick for a new pilot this will almost ruin the helis 3D capability but make it much more docile.

I think you can see the set I used to use in this pic
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08-03-2007 12:22 AM  13 years ago
switchblade2

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mine flew great out of the box . i just needed to add some flybar weights to keep it more under control and with the weights it flies better untill i get used to hovering it
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08-03-2007 12:29 AM  13 years ago
tryan02

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Oh by the way dont pay 4.99 from e-flite buy 1/16" wheel collars on the airplane side of your LHS you can get 4 of them for $2 or Ive seen 2 of them with allen wrench for same price.No Really I am the club President!!!
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08-03-2007 02:36 AM  13 years ago
tutelar-rc

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Having never flown an RC helicopter (or airplane) before, I was able to get through all 10 steps of Radd's training before hitting the television and needing some adjustments... It was at that time that I realized that I should check balance, etc.

I have 2 BCPPs, both well balanced and flyable out of the box.

I recently purchased a BCP bare bones for parts, and ended up putting in the electronics to see how it compared. I found it totally unflyable (and I can fly the BCPP fairly well). The problems that I found were:
- binding in the blade grips (compared to the BCPP, the washers were totally wrong)
- binding in the swash (caused by excess flash in the moulded part)
- binding in the main gear (caused by gear mesh set improperly)
- binding in the tail motor (caused by a loose end cap on the motor)

In addition, I found the total lack of responsiveness very disturbing (caused by no Bell-Hiller)...

I have since fixed all noted issues and upgraded to the Bell-Hiller, and find it a very enjoyable leisure flyer.
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08-03-2007 02:55 AM  13 years ago
tutelar-rc

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Re: how do you balance the blades and adjust the tracking
Check out this topic for an example of a well balanced head - [http://runryder.com/t344833p1/].

When I started out, I religiously followed SSG Scott's advice found here:

(http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=494197)
--> post #5 is a great explanation.

Following these directions, my setup is always very smooth.
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