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08-02-2007 06:05 AM  13 years ago
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rudderman

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Question and opinion guys
Today I went to my lhs to look around and I saw the venom 3d xl heli.To me it looked pretty good it had everything you need to fly even brushless motor.Are these prety good heli's ? I told my lhs about the honeybee king 2 and they told me not to get it.They said its hard to get parts for it.And they couldn't get the parts if i asked them to order a part.So now im confused about my new heli.Should i get the venom and be able to get parts or the esky and order parts online.I also looked at the t-rex 450sa it has the brushless motor and what not.But i really don't have the money to invest in this type of heli.Because its just so much money to get it ready to fly.

Can you guys voice your opinions on which would be the best decision to make im Thanks guys
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08-02-2007 12:04 PM  13 years ago
fenderstrat

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I'll give my opinoin here first thats really a tough question,you are comparing 3 completely different heli's.....the venom,I know nothing about, but just because you can get parts for it doesnt make it a great heli,it might be awesome,I dont know, but do some research, read the venom forum,and ask people who have had one.....the HBK2 is a great little heli,parts are EASY to get online,helidirect gets parts to my door in 2-3 days so its not bad at all(I've needed nothing for the HBK,except a pinion)it flies well,is cheap,and is easy to do work on(set up,adjustment)......Obviously the T-rex is a great heli(there are other good 450 size)but you are in the next price bracket with servos,batteries,gyro ready to fly, its a hell of a lot more than a Venom or HBK.....I will say this though the 450 size really is a dream to fly, anyone who loves flying and can afford it should one day treat themselves to a 450 size heli

P.S.I am NOT saying anything bad about the VENOM as I dont have any experience with one but do not let a lhs talk you into one just because THEY carry parts...thats EXACTLY how I got suckered into getting a BLADE CP
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08-02-2007 04:09 PM  13 years ago
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Thanks for your reply.Thats kinda how i felt with my lhs.It felt like they were sucking me into only what they sell.Im really thinking hard about the king2.The only reason i asked about the venom is because it did have lots of things for a good price like brushless motors,gyro,li-po battery and charger,and belt driven tail.all for like 499.00.But after reading the venom forum they were saying that it had a slight drift at times and that it seems to have problem with the gyroDon't talk to me you will make me crash
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08-02-2007 08:34 PM  13 years ago
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thats whats awesome about these forums,you can get info on just about anything,do research,and find out good AND bad about things before you buy......thats one thing about the RTF helis thats a drawback, you are sort of "stuck" with what you can get or upgrade, as not everything is compatible with 3/4in1's and modifing can be a pain.....sometimes the barebones kits are the way to go as you can mix and match components to create a custom heli for your stlye and price range and easily upgrade as you get better or get more money....with the service,selection,and shipping times today of the online stores its a sad fact that the LHS parts supply is almost a non factor anymore ....its easier for me to order online and pay shipping instead of sales tax and get parts delivered to my door in 2-3 days.Compass helis Support Team
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08-02-2007 08:43 PM  13 years ago
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Very interesting someone want to tell me whats going on. My LHS just started carrying venom helis and parts although never the ones you will need. First the market forced the BCPP and now the venom line down my throat. Cant I make my own decisions? Or do we have to buy the helis they tell us too. We all know what happened to us when we bought the BCPP. Nobody could leave it stock It needs at the least a DD tail before you take it home. Then the hill mixer and swash ball links wear out among other things. For $250 they should of thrown in a bare bones kit to rebuild the blade helis.

Im betting the venom is a weak heli to get you to buy parts like the blade helis did. Although I'm just angry right now that my BCPP is worn out and My HBK2 still needs a powerplant.
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08-02-2007 09:05 PM  13 years ago
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as I said earlier I have NO personal experience with VENOM,just what I have read on the forums and from what I can see, its a rebranded WALKERA...and that is one company I would never deal with as I have heard/read nothing but bad about them...they have a worse rep than the BLADE as NOBODY has anything good to say about them...The problem would be ,what if the LHS stops carrying VENOM in 6mos-1year,then what,you end up ordering online anyway......I know I'm problably biased but I have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceburg for the HBK...I think they are really going to catch on and local parts support will be following right behind it...so far almost everyone that has a HBK LOVES it I've yet to see a really bad review/opinion of the HBK and word is starting to really get around nowCompass helis Support Team
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08-03-2007 03:12 AM  13 years ago
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1. I like my Blade CPPs (2) and Blade CP
2. I bought them before the HBK2 was available, so it was probably the best choice at the time (for me)
3. I have been reading with interest the experience of others with the HBK2, and will probably buy 1 (or 2) before too long - BUT will immediately upgrade it to brushless - still a great price!

However, as a NOOB, it was great to:
1. just buy the BCPP, and it really was ready to fly out of the box (although I definitely was not ready)
2. know that I could buy parts immediately from the LHS to fix whatever I broke (since I had NO idea what was going to break, or when)
3. be able to access a TON of detailed information on how to fly and repair the BCPP

Don't underestimate the NOOB fever that may grip you when you start out. When you are making progress, even 4 hours with a broken heli seems like a long time (at least it did for me!).

I know that I could have bought at least 2 TREX (or similar) helicopters with the investment in spare parts, upgrades, etc. that I have spent on the 3 Blade CPPs I now have - BUT, I cannot compare my experience to a "what if I started out with a ..." experience.

Bottom line - the BCPP has definitely taught me how to fly - I get a lot of respect from other flyers who find out I learned on the BCPP, AND I have fun with the BCPPs every day. There probably are better, or at least different, options out there (especially now) - weigh all criteria:
1. price
2. relacement and upgrade parts availability (and price)
3. how easily you can get help (both on-line and from other people)

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08-03-2007 05:27 AM  13 years ago
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Tuteler-rc Thanks for your opinion.I have weighed out those three things as well.I notice there is not much talk about the venom heli yet.And there are not many forums about them.The price is 50/50 with me simply because of the brushless motors,gyro,li-po battery and charger,and the belt drive set up.Its a nice size heli about the size of the trex 450sa.I can order parts pretty easy with my lhs.But the downside to this is I really don't have any review's from forum guys and what not.I like to read through forums and get the pro's and con's on a r/c before buying.But im really leaning on the trex and while im getting it ready to fly.I can practice more on my cp pro.So by the time its finished im a better pilot.I know I can't got wrong with a trex lol.And parts are easy to get.Well I have to go to the hobby shop tomorrow and pick up some cp pro parts.I might just make my mind up tomorrow once I look at both really good.I like the honey bee king 2 as well But I will have to order everything online whether minor or major.Don't talk to me you will make me crash
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08-09-2007 11:46 AM  13 years ago
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I know that I could have bought at least 2 TREX (or similar) helicopters with the investment in spare parts, upgrades, etc. that I have spent on the 3 Blade CPPs I now have - BUT, I cannot compare my experience to a "what if I started out with a ..." experience.

Bottom line - the BCPP has definitely taught me how to fly - I get a lot of respect from other flyers who find out I learned on the BCPP, AND I have fun with the BCPPs every day. There probably are better, or at least different, options out there
My thoughts exactly! I remember back in the early 90's a man at the local flying field with a large gas heli practicing hovering for a year. One crash and all the guys all stood around sighing and talking for ten minutes expressing their sorrow. We all knew he had a lot of money and time to spend fixing things. This guy had claimed to spend over $10,000.00. Now, today with a BCPP we just pull up our socks and fix it (cheap) and fly again. I swear, I can pile my BCPP in forward at 25 mph and when lucky, pick it up straighten things and keep flying it. I have done it about 5 times. I for one don't think my $1.5k is too much for the lessons I have learned.
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