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07-31-2007 04:07 AM  13 years ago
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rudyy

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Learning autorotation is a must
This is the second time I save my 50size heli with autorotation. The first time I had the clunk line broken. This time the fuel line to the engine was loosened and the engine quitted during forward flight.

I am by no means any good at autorotation, and yet I just tried a few times before to get the feel of it at a decent altitude. If I had no experience at all, I would have gone into panic mode and the heli would have ended up crash.

So learning autorotation is a must, and that is the only way to save the heli if your engine quits in mid air.

Rudy
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07-31-2007 04:17 AM  13 years ago
Raffy

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While learning autorotation is a must, take note that you can expect damages during this stage. The Simulator is the best place to start autos.
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07-31-2007 04:45 AM  13 years ago
orlee008

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alot of people think that you have to learn auto's from very high up and thats not the case... start learning to flare for autos from 6" to 1' off the ground then slowly work your way up. just hover then hit the throttle hold and watch the heli drop very slowly on its own. no damage can happen unless you tip over so make sure you know how to land correctly first Once you move up to a higher altitude then you have to work the collective a little but you will get the hang of it

then do it from 2 feet and 3 feet and so on. chances are very high that you wont damage anything during the learning process and will save your heli many times as it saved me. i was learning invert at the time and my engine would die while i was 10 - 15 feet up and i actually flipped the heli and autoed it down safely, more than once...

just take it slow and make sure its one of the few FIRST things you learn. maybe even before learning nose-in.

SIMs are good but they still dont capture the true feeling of autoing...
Flying in Miami, FL (Kendall Area)
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07-31-2007 06:48 AM  13 years ago
SSMKN2

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Just pay attention to your rotor speed...you can usually tell by the sound of he blades....heheJoel
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07-31-2007 10:25 PM  13 years ago
garaptor

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One other thing I learned is to have my pitch curve points the same or very close on my throttle up set up and my throttle hold in the hover pitch range. If they are different,when you are practicing autos and hit throttle hold it could suddenly leap upward,or worse, to the ground.
If you wanna read the veterans gettin on my a** about autos, read this http://www.runryder.com/t344718p1/
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08-01-2007 04:52 AM  13 years ago
BCX3D

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I've never tried it when it shuts off while inverted.
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08-01-2007 05:04 AM  13 years ago
airboss

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you must practice your autos.i make it a point not to land ever with the power on,infact its my favorite part of the flight.and has saved ny heli from hundreds of dollars in damage.some flights will get more than one auto.its fun to get every one looking up and then flip the switch.Urukay HPS3 KSE 700 HPS3
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08-14-2007 12:57 AM  13 years ago
herby8860

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Saved my titan once when the crappy clunk line split didnt even damage the blades ! Now the piroing autos are costing me blades
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08-14-2007 10:48 AM  13 years ago
mickeyapples

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Autos are important, I had to do 3 the over day and one was from inverted because of the clunk line splitting. broke the skids on the inverted one because I lost a lot of head speed trying to flip it over. My first unexpected inverted auto and only broke the skids. now I practice inverted autos on the simLive life on the edge. Stand next to me when I am flying
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08-14-2007 11:57 AM  13 years ago
SkateFreak

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Autos autos autos...
Gotta love autos...
Saved me from many many crashes!
Many many many crashes...
High, fast tail slide autos are awsome, bring it tail down pull out 3 ft off the deck and shoot cross fields skiming the crop... okay, so its not conventional
Really curious to try piro'ing and circling autos now
Inverted autos was next on the list though heh.

But yeah, i had to auto my hawk sport with woodies/OS32 just the other day... Inverted from about 20'ish feet...

I'm way to used to a 50 and broke the skids
Also dont quiet know how the feathing spindle managed to get bent by about 20 odd degrees... pretty bent... yet the wooden blades are un-touched

Very very odd...
Got some carbon blades in the post... just need a feathing spindle now

-Jvr
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08-15-2007 01:22 AM  13 years ago
cassat

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I had two this last week alone.Both gave slight damage due to lack of practicing the real thing.

At high altitude, do you give -2 pitch right away? If you do that, then your falling speed becomes pretty fast.
Or do you blip in some collective on and off all the way down?
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08-15-2007 01:37 AM  13 years ago
SkateFreak

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There are many approaches to this.

Some jerk it down... gets the falling speed up which can be used to regain the headspeed, but a smooth transition from + to - is proberbly best

i usually give a violent downward jerk before hitting throttle hold when doing tail slides because i'm a silly person and have a thing about pulling out sillily low way to far away and skimming along crops all the way back to my feet hehe.

Havnt broken a blade on an auto for ages, intentional or unintintional auto...
But then again, i just got my heli replaced and it feels wierd :S
Gonna take baby steps into these (Who am i kidding)

-Jvr
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08-15-2007 03:17 AM  13 years ago
airboss

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skatefreak, piroing autos are the sh$$ looks cool but dont forget to give elev or it will tail dive the way you like em.auto onto a 4ft table from 150ft.more fun than ever.Urukay HPS3 KSE 700 HPS3
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08-15-2007 09:44 AM  13 years ago
zeese5

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I don't think auto is a must for electric heli. So far, never heard of motor stop spinning all of sudden. EP heli drop usually because of mechanical failure's which I don't think auto can help at all. If ESC cut off, all servo's also not working, unless the person use external BEC.

What do you think?
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08-15-2007 12:49 PM  13 years ago
SkateFreak

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i'v heard and had a few instances of 450 leccy motors stopping... but they'v all been down to setup errors...

And they just dont auto anyways

-Jvr

Ps, yeah, piroing autos...
gotta give them a shot can do flipping/rolling autos on the sim without to much trouble but i question how realistic that is
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08-15-2007 03:46 PM  13 years ago
airboss

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zeese5 and skatefreak,you guys need to learn autos dont be the guy who crashes because the flame goes out.and 450s auto great with a little practice.E helis are known to have puffed lipo,overheated motor,bad oneway brng,broken belt,esc cutout,Rx interferance, all of these and more can cause a crash,but if you know how to auto....well you know the rest.Urukay HPS3 KSE 700 HPS3
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08-15-2007 08:07 PM  13 years ago
SkateFreak

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i can auto plenty..
but dont have a leccy at the mo...

Might do at some point soon though...
might have to learn that hmmmm ...

-Jvr
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08-15-2007 08:15 PM  13 years ago
LouInSD

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I learned to auto recently.

I was about 30 feet up when my HV85 died on me for no apparent reason. I learned to auto REAL quick. She bounced a little but it was pretty good for the first time...
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08-15-2007 08:29 PM  13 years ago
Ville Erkkilä

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Autorotation is your friend. I have a weird problem going on in my T-Rex 600E (motor shutting down) and I would have crashed my heli several times if I didn't how to autorotate. I also think it's great fun to practise autos.
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08-16-2007 10:01 PM  13 years ago
BrunoBL

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LouInSD,
my HV85 died on me for no apparent reason. I learned to auto REAL quick.
Same here.
About a year ago my TT50 broke its conrod. I had just learned to do circuits at the time, but had a good idea of the theory behind autos (had practiced in the sim too). In retrospect, it is funny how there was time to think it through all the way: "lower the collective... turn to the landing zone... rotor RPM seems fine... getting close... start to flare... lower the nose/feed in collective..." She landed with no damage done!

Oh, yes, after that I ditched the TT50 and got an OS 50 Hyper.
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