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07-30-2007 04:17 PM  13 years ago
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Jadynn

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Is it better to buy the sim first then the copter?
or both right away?
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07-30-2007 04:21 PM  13 years ago
pH7

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If you can hold a stable hover over a specific spot in any orientation in the sim, then you will be ready for anything you will encounter in learning to hover the real thing. Each crash (there will be plenty) will cost you only the time to hit the reset button.

If you start with the real thing. Each crash (there will be plenty) will cost you the price of the repair parts and the time required to do the repair.

Still your choice.
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07-30-2007 04:23 PM  13 years ago
Jadynn

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I understand that, I just meant would it be better to practice for quite awhile on the sim first, then when decent, go out and find a copter.
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07-30-2007 04:27 PM  13 years ago
JuanRodriguez

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Jadynn ,
Opinions will vary but I think that most will agree that buying the simulator and spending time on it will be of great benefit to you when it comes time to try the real thing.....

After you get a heli (a Raptor 50 remains one of the best values) then the third most important thing that you can do to assure success and minimize shall we say, "incidents", is to find an experienced pilot in your area willing to spend time with you to teach you setup AND to test hover/fly your machine before you even attempt to do so yourself....

We have helped MANY new pilots in our area using this technique and many have learned to hover and get into forward flight without ANY crashes......
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07-30-2007 04:38 PM  13 years ago
RobRoy

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I agree with what Juan said.Ignorance is curable, stupidity is for life.
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07-30-2007 05:17 PM  13 years ago
gmebey

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My opinion is that the simulator is the best thing to start out with, but be causes with some simulators being more ideal that real. Some stuff on the simulator is way to easy compared to the real thing.

But here is a thought….Sim time is priceless…each reset is work $50-150 and 3 days.

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07-30-2007 05:23 PM  13 years ago
rudyy

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Practise hovering with the simulator first. Once your are comfortable with it, do not waste time on the simulator anymore but try the real thing.

Rudy
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07-30-2007 05:41 PM  13 years ago
EvoFlight50

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I think the sim is a good tool not only to learn on, but also to see if you really like flying r/c heli's. They look fun but who knows maybe you'd drop 2 grand on a heli and end up not liking it to much.
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07-30-2007 06:29 PM  13 years ago
LouInSD

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Yes, start with a sim
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07-30-2007 06:31 PM  13 years ago
lrogers

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Juan is right on!Larry Rogers - R/C Helicopter Pilot
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07-30-2007 07:59 PM  13 years ago
NCC81701

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Because this hobby cost so much, yes I would go play on a sim for a little while and then get a helicopter. But if you can afford it I'd recommend getting your helicopter as soon as possible after you get a sim. You should get comfortable with new manuever/orientation the sim and they try it on the real thing. Use the Sims to learn new things and then go out to the field and do them is the best way to learn. You can be the best 3D pilot in the world on the sim, but it won't mean much if you can't do it on the real thing.
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07-30-2007 08:13 PM  13 years ago
micknick

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I got the heli first but then realised that the sim is a really useful tool and was a little frightened of flying the heli due to cost of innevitable repairs, so decided to invest a little time using the sim (phoenix) and have found it to be invaluable, havn't crashed yet but still hovering and doing basic moves the sim was the best £80 i have spent so far.
I'm sure there probably will be some crashes in the future but am also sure there would have been a few already by now had it not been for th practice on the sim.
Good luck and all the best.

Mick.
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07-30-2007 08:43 PM  13 years ago
Surfanarchist

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If you can afford both I guess you could practice on the sim while your building but in any case get on that sim before you fly the real thing. In some ways the sim is harder to hover then a proper set up heli so if the sim is kicking your a$$ don't worry. The main thing your learning is to hover tail in without having to think about the controls and what your thumbs are doing. If there are some pilots in your area then get with them. It's a good idea to have someone make sure you're set-up correctly and it's great to see what someone who knows what their doing can make a heli do.
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07-30-2007 09:32 PM  13 years ago
Jadynn

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thanks alot guys alot of useful info.....I appreciate it.
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07-31-2007 01:31 AM  13 years ago
dell17999

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sure! sim first,learn everything on sim until u can do it without much thinking, and then do it on the model heli,step by step , fly on sim is a bit more difficult than fly the model heli, so it can save u a lot of money from crashes!
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07-31-2007 02:30 AM  13 years ago
GyroFreak

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I bought both knowing the real heli would be on the table under construction and lots of static setup. Meanwhile I crashed the .ell out of the sim and the next flight was always only a pushbutton away.I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?
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07-31-2007 05:35 AM  13 years ago
tracker640

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Well,
I tried the real thing first and looking back, I wish I had bought the sim first. When I add up the amount of money spent in crashes as I was learning to fly I could have bought 2 to 3 simulators easily. So my advice to you is to get the sim first and learn to hover etc. first and then take the real model out and start with it the same way you started with the simulater. Slow and easy.

Learn to hover from all orientations first before moving on to forward flight. Just my opinion. This will save you a lot of money in the long run.

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07-31-2007 05:56 AM  13 years ago
chuckhager

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My first heli was a sim.
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07-31-2007 09:33 AM  13 years ago
TheBigNoob

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I am brand new as you are and bought both the Trex 450SA and a G3.5 sim...I practiced on the sim for awhile and now I am starting to setup the heli...If you have the funds buy both and practice on the sim while building your heli....If funds are limited then I would go with the sim at least you will get to fly cuz if you buy the heli and try to fly it without the sim you will likey spend all the sim money on parts for the heli...Just my opinion which is worth almost nothing given that I am so new to RC....Great bunch of people in this forum though....
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07-31-2007 01:16 PM  13 years ago
tchavei

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Unless you are fully commited to this hobby, I would buy the chopper first (not build it) and then a Sim. Only after mastering hovering on the sim, build the heli.

This serves two purposes... 1st you won't give up on buying a heli after trying the sim for the first time (trust me, I know) as you already spent the cash and for 2nd, it will teach you basic moves without risking your bird.

As a sidenote, when I started out, I bought a heli and everything I needed and only like two weeks later managed to get a sim. When I tried it for the first time my thoughts were: "Uh, Oh...what was I thinking?... I wonder if I can sell everything I bought lol! ". I'm sure that If I ever got the sim before the bird, I would have gave up that day.

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