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04-01-2009 12:02 PM  9 years agoPost 1501
RichardVRFlyer

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Hi Guys,
I have just spoken to my local hobby shop about getting some more Slowsticks in.
While I was there I asked him to check with his supplier and he can get them in,in about 6 weeks... apparently there is a toy fair on.
I asked him if he could order in more than usual.. he said he could get between X6 to 10 units if anybody wanted them... he doesn't want to be over stock on SS as you can understand.
The store is in Sydney.. the web site is http://www.hstore.com.au
I suggested to him that I would put this on the forum to see if anybody is interested.. particular the Aussie guys... they have been hard to get here and he doesn't want to order in a lot if nobody wants them.. I guess you could call or email the store or PM me. I also think the price is what is on the website?? not sure about the Aussie dollar.
This is not an AD for the Store..it is just that it has been hard to get the SS here in Australia and I asked him as a favor if he would.
The US guys can more than likely get them without any probs from their usual suppliers.
anyway the offer is on the table..let me know if anybody is interested.
If not that's ok as well.. he will just order in what he usually gets I suppose
Cheers
Richard

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04-01-2009 12:37 PM  9 years agoPost 1502
RichardVRFlyer

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Hi guys,
I was thinking of you "Burnt" from the video you did of your gear and the extra speedy being use as a 5v supply to your cam and TX. (luv it)
I also have had need to use a UBEC as the Speedy for the new project is 65 amps had no BEC. and there has been many occasion when I would like to tape into the main lipo.. for 11.1v like the 1 watt video 2.4 TX 12v
or to use a drop down voltage regulator of up voltage from 7.4 to 11.1v
the combination's are endless and with the right end/s on the adapter you could use it for just about anything and frees up your stuff and you can use a standard battery ... and the adapter will work for all .
I have not finished this yet .. just got the UBEC's today.. but it means I can use the UBEC on any elec plane I have So I only need to buy one.... more money left to spend on planes.

Cheers
Richard

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04-02-2009 12:20 AM  9 years agoPost 1503
eyeinsky

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Good stuff Richard and Dan

Here some interesting stability video I found today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r33a...feature=related

My machine is coming a long great had chance to do some high speed taxi trial today only flipped it over twice. I need brakes Here a video of some system ops ground test.

Watch at YouTube

Cheers Jerry

Hard job competing with gravity.

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04-02-2009 12:50 AM  9 years agoPost 1504
eyeinsky

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Here some more good stuff with leading edge devices and Flaperons.

Also pay atention to the spoilerons stuff very interesting

Watch at YouTube

Thats what I'm talking about

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04-02-2009 04:28 AM  9 years agoPost 1505
bigdipper

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eyeinsky...sounds like plenty of power. Prop is out of balance though....check it.

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04-03-2009 02:01 PM  9 years agoPost 1506
Guido44

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Wow, that guy is worse than we are! Totally addicted. LOL

He really knows his stuff.

I'm still waiting for my Magpie to be delivered.
I received my new ESC(60 amp).

I just need to get it all installed. The weather has been lousy anyway.(and still is)

Looking forward to another test fight.

I've been doing some repairs to my 4 Star 120. It's a bit of a monster. 82" wing span. Gasoline engine.

I'm going to get 'er balanced (this month?) to fly with some pontoons I built for her a long while back. I've never gotten around to finding a body of water and the time to take her out.

Of course you know I'm hoping to have a camera onboard if it flys well with the pontoons.

Here's some videos of both:

http://www.vimeo.com/822798
On my second flight, I was having too much fun and almost kept her in the air a little too long. When I landed, I had about 2 drops of fuel left!(and my fingers were almost frozen)

Pontoons:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jpg...re=channel_page

http://www.danfarinastudios.com/

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04-03-2009 03:09 PM  9 years agoPost 1507
Envision

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Video is marked private Dan.

T

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04-03-2009 03:28 PM  9 years agoPost 1508
Guido44

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Rats. LOL

It's ok now.

Thanks,
dan

http://www.danfarinastudios.com/

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04-03-2009 04:27 PM  9 years agoPost 1509
ben1101

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Australia

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Hello,

Just a quick update,

I got an eflite BL15 because my LHS didnt have any 480's left (and it takes them literally months to get new stock in), I also got 2 3200mah 7.4V lipo's to power it (Motor and batts weigh 500g total) which is really heavy imho.

Anyway, I was testing it out today as a mono plane, and it tore itself apart when the aluminum mount that was attached to the wings (stupid, stupid!) let go.

I really like helicopters a lot more than planks at this point, but I will re assemble it with an aluminum boom and try again with the mini titan motor on 7.4V, the BL15 is a bit overkill.

Heres a pic or 2 of the bipe config that I canned because it was too flimsy.

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04-03-2009 04:44 PM  9 years agoPost 1510
Burnt OfferingrrKey Veteran - Winter Wonder Land, Wasilla Alaska - My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Hey Ben, I assure you a properly built SS will be anything but flimsy. I am not real sure what is going on but if things are falling apart in the air, I can only surmise that there is some questionable construction going on. Not trying to hurt your feelings, just a few of us been doing this a while, and I have never had one of my birds tear itself apart, even in my early days when my builds were really pathetic. My latest SS is nothing short of a flying tank. It is an AP dream. It is simply so strong that the very last thing I am worried about it stressing the airframe. I am going to post this picture again only because I went back and viewed the wing you built for your SS. I could explain it all again but the picture pretty much says everything, but I wanted you to noticce the CF rod along the trailing edge. Very important. One thing is for sure, if you get a SS set up properly, you will have an APers dream come true. Its lightweight, inexpsensive to operate, easy to fix, and just a sheer joy to fly.

Kevo

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04-03-2009 05:03 PM  9 years agoPost 1511
ben1101

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Hi Burnt,

Thanks for the info!

I already have all the pics from this thread saved.

I was actually holding the plane when it tore itself to shreds, The motor mount detached from the wing (Yes, shoddy building was to blame I thought it would be fine but well..)

I did have CF Rods running the span of the wing on the LE, middle and TE. Sadly the TE rod was smashed by the prop.

Could I get your opinion on the motor and batt combo? Is it too heavy - 500g?

Im going to rebuild it the same as yours, I like tanks.

Thanks!

Ben

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04-03-2009 05:15 PM  9 years agoPost 1512
Burnt Offering

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Well the Eflite 15 you have is incredible overkill. No wonder she scattered on you! I had that motor on my Aurora but it weighed over 6 pounds! If you could come up with a motor with similar specs to the Park 480, you would be way better off as I'm sure you know. 500 grams in enormously heavy. Get a motor that will run on one 11.1 volt lipo in the neighboorhood of 2200 miliamps with a smaller motor with specs similar to the Park 480 and you should be able to shave off several ounces. That 15 will actually run on and 11.1 volt lipo, but man will your battery go dead fast!

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04-03-2009 05:20 PM  9 years agoPost 1513
Envision

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MI

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Ben, does that weight include both batteries? To keep weight down you should only use one at a time.

Troy

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04-03-2009 05:26 PM  9 years agoPost 1514
Burnt Offering

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Get a motor that will run on one 11.1 volt lipo in the neighboorhood of 2200 miliamps with a smaller motor with specs similar to the Park 480 and you should be able to shave off several ounces.
Key word being ONE!! Ben, you need to key in on saving weight everywhere you can. One battery matched to your motor. I am not familiar with your mini titan motor, but I'm afraid from the sounds of things you might be going from one extreme to the other. From a rocket ship, to not being able to get off the ground. We need to get you somewhere inbetween.

American by Birth, Alaskan by the grace of God!!

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04-03-2009 11:22 PM  9 years agoPost 1515
ben1101

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Hi,

Im having to write this from my ipod as my network is down.

My LHS didnt have the 480 in stock when I went to buy it even though in their online inventory it was shown in stock, the same goes for the 11.1V lipo's. They take literally months to refresh stock.

Unfortunately I sold all my 3s lipos when I outfitted my mini titan with the 6s 1300mah outrage battery and motor.

So out of impatience I selected the next best thing which was the BL15 and two 2S lipos.

AUW for both batts and motor is 500g. Will this be too heavy to fly on one wing with reinforcement?

I will get some alu tubing and build a frame similar to Burnt's ent give that a go even though I know you guys are right and I should re-do the power system.

I will also look at extending the wing.

Thanks,

Ben

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04-03-2009 11:47 PM  9 years agoPost 1516
Envision

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For a stock slowstick it would be to much weight.

I just checked my motor, center boom, motor mount, esc and cheap lipo 2100 3 cell and it came to 18.6oz. (heavier than 500 grams) But I have a modified 75" wingspan with twin booms. On test flights I also carried an extra battery (6 oz) and the pan head I had made up last year (7.2oz). This puts it just shy of 2lbs (31.8oz, 901.5grams) without the plane.

Troy

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04-04-2009 03:05 AM  9 years agoPost 1517
eyeinsky

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Here is a new product. Looks interesting.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/AERIAL-PHOTOGRAP...A1%7C240%3A1318

Hard job competing with gravity.

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04-04-2009 03:31 AM  9 years agoPost 1518
Burnt Offering

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Love the launcher. Great idea. I don't like it though when people try to hoodwink us into thinking that the plane can "hover" without the assistance of the wind. I mean good grief you can hear the wind blowing 25 mph in the camera microphone. When I do a test and do video to show people, I want it dead calm so people can see the speed at which it can land with no help from the wind. Something tells me that the launching and landing would be a little less impressive without the wind blowing. Still, pretty cool. Again, I really like the launcher idea.

American by Birth, Alaskan by the grace of God!!

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04-04-2009 03:39 AM  9 years agoPost 1519
Tonic

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I had to give that ebay plane a second look, yep, just as I thought the first time ...that plane is a piece of doo-doo!

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04-04-2009 07:19 PM  9 years agoPost 1520
eyeinsky

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Remember the Acronym KISS, which is what it is all about. It’s still a good ideas, not the nicest construction but functional. I will reserve my judgement till after I see mine lift of and land. Wind or not it still has impressive STOL operation.

Would I buy it? No. Reason: I know I could make better aircraft but the concept is solid. It looks more like a prototype not refined yet.

Hard job competing with gravity.

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