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01-20-2009 03:09 PM  9 years agoPost 1041
Tonic

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Those arrows are quite light TtT. I fitted the ends by gluing a 1/2" piece wood dowel in the ends, then cut 45 degrees angle and glued. I reinforced the joint with epoxy and heavy thread wrap before the epoxy dries, makes for a very strong joint. I was going to additional reinforce the corners as Troy suggested but decided not to, I'm building to fly not crash.

I do appreciate Kevo's point about landing gear. That's always kind of a hurdle with these camera ships. I’m all good on the front and have a couple idea for the back. I want the rear gear as light as possible so there is less to counter balance up front. I’ll try and post a picture of and idea later today.

You might be a redneck if you go to your family reunion looking for a date.

27 degrees with little wind, think I’ll go cut up some air before heading out to work.

Tonic

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01-20-2009 04:36 PM  9 years agoPost 1042
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Hey Robby, give us a full report dude. I am axiously awaiting my picture of a Grain Silo. Get your camera on that bad boy and start taking some pictures! Do you think you will go with a downlink at some point?

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01-20-2009 10:29 PM  9 years agoPost 1043
talk the torque

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Hows your progress doing Kev, Will u b flying your twin boom by tomorrow Kev

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01-21-2009 01:07 AM  9 years agoPost 1044
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No down link in the plans Kevo, don’t really have anyone that has much interest in my AP work, so I’m by my self here. Got plenty that come for the air show off the back deck, or could it be the free beer?

Had my hands full today with work and keeping up with the love-fest going on in Washington, so no SS progress today. Plus Donna (wife) and I are tossing back a few cold ones …to the good old times.

Kevo, no offence taken buddy, I just saw an opportunity to stir crap up. My fault really! This is a day to heal and come together my brother.

Tonic

PS Note to world: Solve your own problems, we’ll be busy equally dividing up our money among ourselves for the next 4 years.

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01-21-2009 02:07 AM  9 years agoPost 1045
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Tip I hope you give me a call next time you come up
I wouldn't come up there without calling you buddy. Besides, who else is gonna shows me how ta gut a moose? (Trying to sound like a redneck...but can't pull it off as good as Troy....wait, he can't have a red neck. He hasn't come out of his basement in weeks!)

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01-21-2009 02:17 AM  9 years agoPost 1046
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My Progress Jason? Well lets see, if Robby keeps up the good work on his SS, I'm just going to retire and let HIM take over as admin of this thread! I mean what the heck would anyone need me for? Ha! The dude is Smokin me! I gotta get caught up to him or I'm really gonna look bad!

Alright, I mind melded with my walking encylopedia of Carbon Fiber Lore today, that would be my buddy Troy, and he gave me some stellar ideas on my airframe. So as soon as I get to where I can work on my project for a few hours I will be back at it.

Tip, I talked to Troy on Skype today. He looked like a mini cherynoble from sniffing so much CF glue. Hair was standin straight up and everything. Scary.

Kevo

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01-22-2009 03:33 AM  9 years agoPost 1047
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Got my new wings.

The wings I ordered from McClain arrived UPS today. I must say, I'm impressed. Well packaged and nice work as well.

I ordered the Aerial Photography wings and they're HUGH! 80"!!

Photos

The photo with the dowel rod in the end is where I'm mounting the motor.

Kevin, do you think that will hold? It's about 4 or 5 inches long, and I epoxied it inside the CF tube.

Should I just cut into the trailing edge of the wing to make the ailerons? There's enough styrofoam from the packaging to make them, but it'll be easier and look nicer if I just do a "cut out".

I was thinking of just cutting ailerons out of the end sections. They're 20" long/ea. I THINK that's enough.

I might even do some landing flaps later. Not a lot of trailing edge left on the center section, but maybe enough to help in some short TO's and landings.

What do you all think?

dan

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01-22-2009 03:41 AM  9 years agoPost 1048
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You're going to put a carbon spare in there right?

I think over time the foam would start to show allot of wear. I have carbon tubes leading edge and trailing edge, not only does it keep it straight, but it also protected from damage. I believe its only 6mm tube hobby tube.

How you have the twin boom and center boom mounted is exactly how mine is.

Troy

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01-22-2009 04:26 AM  9 years agoPost 1049
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I did some small upgrades to my SS today. I replaced the ebay no name brand 30amp ESC that a friend gave me with an Eflite 40amp and replaced the Parflyer rx with a full range AR6200 dual reciever. it is actually two seperate rx's linked together for redundancy.. after the other days crash I got spooked and HOPEFULLY covered some bases.. now at least if it gets away I will lose a few more bux

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01-22-2009 11:41 AM  9 years agoPost 1050
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Thanks AGAIN Troy,

I'm glad we think alike. lol

Yes, I am ordering carbon tubes. I'm ordering 2 sets to plug in the ends of the wings. The smaller is going to be 3/16 (?) Have to check. I want the ends of the wings to "plug in". Sliding them INTO the center of the wing seems like an advantage for aerodynamics and looks. HOW CAN I MAKE A HOLE THE RIGHT SIZE FOR EACH CARBON TUBE? I was thinking of getting a small piece of copper tubing and heating it up .... carefully, lol. not sure. Then epoxying them inside the wings.

I debating on covering the whole wing with Aerokote lite, or something similar. More $$$ of course. yikes.

If I cover the wing do you think I still need a CF tube on the leading edge? Also, will the AeorKote covering (stick) to clear tape? I put small pieces of clear tape where the mounts are already. I guess I'll find out if I try it.

Kevin I still like your idea about the smaller square CF tubes to slide the wings. I may change it down the road. I can move mine, but I'd have to drill new holes into my arrow CF tubes.

I THINK the 2-20" ailerons will be enough to control the plane. I'll make them a tiny bit oversized to be sure.

Also, I was hoping someone could brainstorm a way for me to fasten the 20" wing sections onto the main wing panel. I could use tape, but I KNOW eventually that's going to mean trouble, and probably tear up my wings.

I could drill holes in the wing panels and cut 4 plastic strips from an old Tupperware lid and use 4 nylon bolts to bolt the panels together. ? Maybe 5 inches long.?

Opinions and ideas please.

Thanks again Troy,

dan

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01-22-2009 12:00 PM  9 years agoPost 1051
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Dan, very nice looking bird. You might fly it first before you cover the wing, case you want to change something. I can just see your rear landing gear, would love to see a closer shot to see what you did back there. I looked around you website too …your good. Are you a full time photographer?

Tonic

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01-22-2009 02:08 PM  9 years agoPost 1052
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Dan, If you don't add a carbon tube to the leading edge, after you hit something you'll be taping it on the edge. My wings are 75" and I have no center spare, only the LE and TE carbon tubes that the carbon rods on the outer pieces slide into.

As far as constructing the wing, I would suggest looking at the original "Solution" build thread on RCG.

Troy

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01-22-2009 02:13 PM  9 years agoPost 1053
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Thanks Tonic,

I'll take some shots so you can see the rear gear. (ha that rhymes)

Dubro Tail Wheel Bracket

No, not a full time photographer, but thanks A LOT.

By the way, I was just checking to see if regular Aerokote works with the styrofoam, and it seems to be just fine. I have several rolls left over from another build. I might even have enough "checker board" left over to do the bottom of the wing.

I also found some carbon tubing from that build that I can use with my arrow shafts as wing stabs. That means I'm saving a chunk of $$$. Hurray!

Photo Gallery

Thanks again Tonic, (I posted some Tail photos too, 2nd page.)

dan

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01-22-2009 02:59 PM  9 years agoPost 1054
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Hum, they don't look tall enough Dan. So have you done a mock-up with the front great, motor and prop?

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01-22-2009 03:25 PM  9 years agoPost 1055
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Mock up? If that means "wing it", or "got a mental picture in my head", then YES. lol

My front gear I'm not so happy with, but, it'll pass for now. They're too heavy, and not too ... precise.?

I will eventually buy a camera/landing gear mount from Troy, or Askman, if Troy only has products for Helis. I'd rather buy from Troy of course.

If I spend $150 + I'd need to get rid of the extra weight from my half ass landing gear set up though. There's no giant rush for me to have everything right now, and I now Troy is working on his designs.

Yes the back gear is short, but I figure on take-offs the tail is only on the ground for a couple seconds. it's not like a regular plane that I expect to be able to taxi around with anyway. I can always get a longer piece of wire, but it'll just get bent anyway (eventually). lol

For the motor I'm going to use the plastic strip that comes with the SS kit, plus I'm going to try a piece of aluminum to bolt to the motor mount.

dan

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01-22-2009 05:19 PM  9 years agoPost 1056
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Already have a slowstick adapter made Dan, Manual tilt weighs about 35 grams, 1.2 oz. I'll know for sure in a few days. Then I need to pay for advertising here.

I really don't like the tall landing gear, I'm hoping to build a carbon fiber plane like the "solution" by Power, then I'll only need a straight carbon fiber tube for landing gear. Or just belly land it. It would be a single boom design for simplicity, pusher.

Mock up is when you just kind of hold everything together to see if it will work.

Troy

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01-23-2009 02:31 AM  9 years agoPost 1057
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I KNOW WHAT MOCK UP IS TROY!!!,

THANKS. LOL

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01-23-2009 02:39 AM  9 years agoPost 1058
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^ I have to admit, I kinda saw that one comin. Guess maybe Troy was taking in the "Redneck" factor and just thought he would explain it to you Dan. Or else he was explaining it for the benefit of the rest of us!

American by Birth, Alaskan by the grace of God!!

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01-23-2009 04:17 AM  9 years agoPost 1059
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I forgot to add duct tape. A mock up is when you kind of hold it all together with duct tape. When you remove the duct tape and some glue needs to be removed just dump a bunch in lacquer thinner on it.

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Don't do it, only the carbon and glue will be left.

Troy

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01-23-2009 08:44 AM  9 years agoPost 1060
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[quote]A mock up is when you kind of hold it all together with duct tape

That some funny stuff bro.

T

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