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01-13-2009 05:44 AM  9 years agoPost 961
savage 40

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I'm ready...40oz ready to fly . I think I want another servo to turn it on and off (so I can retract the lens)

www.atc70decals.com www.signspeeweedesigns.com

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01-13-2009 08:28 PM  9 years agoPost 962
Burnt Offering

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Right on Savage. lets see some snaps from that bad boy. Man you should point your camera forward, throw a downlink on it and do some FPV. Currently I use a $79.00 DVD player from Walmart for my ground station. Its all you need to frame your shots.

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01-14-2009 01:58 AM  9 years agoPost 963
RichardVRFlyer

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Hi Guys,
I have not posted for a while.. In fact I have not flown VR for sometime.. I have been just strapping on a FlyCamOne2 on slope planes.
My slow stick came to a sudden end with a nose dive straight into concrete path when I was setting it up.. on it's maiden flight another flyer turned on his TX just after I took off.. the only good thing was that there was no camera or TX gear on it.. which I have to move over from my easystar once I replace the main boom the impact bent back about 2.5" on the front.. I guess I could always cut it off ..the Stumpy Slow Stick
anyway the reason for post: I have read about the Co-Pilot (CPD4)
http://www.fmadirect.com/detail.htm...1489§ion=20
and also the much more expensive : AP2000i
http://www.webberaerialimaging.com/...4e4494de32892dd

I guess you are just connecting the FMA to the Rudder/Elevator ? on most fixed wing.. e.g. Slow Stick as it doesn't seem to support X2 aileron servos on different channels.. you would have to run them through a "Y" connector.. I guess. For the price It would sure give you that little extra time to do things without having the think about level flight issues.. especially when I am using the HeadTracker1 to look around ( back over 130 Lt or Rt deg's and down )I find it one of the hardest moves, to stay in level fight.. but that just me makes it more difficult to enjoy the view.. ( a bit like drive a car and turning your head to yell at the kids )
I also use an OSD which give me altitude and attitude.. but still you are looking at that and not the sites...
there is also a new OSD with a type of Co-Pilot .. if you are interested.. pricey but it is and OSD / GPS ...
http://www.rangevideo.com/index.php...9a0593d7ddd07a6

So back to the question... the FMA for $70.00 US or so.
It seems from you guys to be the go.. any Comments welcome please !!!
Cheers
Richard

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01-14-2009 02:21 AM  9 years agoPost 964
monterey_tip

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Hey Savage, lookin good! If you don't want to have a servo to turn it on and off, you can screw a lens adaptor to it and use a simple UV filter to protect the lens. I think there is a CDHK hack that will let you retract the lens also, but might not work on the A590.

Tip

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01-14-2009 05:14 AM  9 years agoPost 965
savage 40

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This puppy just flys so good!! I thought the added weight would give it a negative affect, but no it just soars! I think I have to run with an Infinty focus on a manual setting.. my first shots were blurred..

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01-14-2009 06:53 PM  9 years agoPost 966
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HEy Richard, you are right about the FMA copilot and the ailerons. If you want to use it on them you have to use a Y connector. Same with the AP2000i. Whicch kinda sucks, cuz then its pretty togh to do flaprons as you have to run dual servos off 2 different channels. I have also checked out the Range video RVOSD. It is VERY cool.
Savage, trust me, if you point that camera forward your blurry shots will diminish dramatically.

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01-15-2009 12:00 AM  9 years agoPost 967
RichardVRFlyer

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Thx' Burnt,
I thought that would be the case.. for the easystar it's not a problem.. didn't do the aileron mod anyway. But with the Slowstick I might get more stability buy just using one aileron.After being in slope soaring for a while now VERY little movement of the ailerons is required.. in fact to improve performance I use a lot of aileron differential both + and - , might try it with that..produces less drag and snapper turns.. of course less would be required in this application.
BTW:as for the RVOSD ... it is a great unit BUT.. I have look over the Auto-Pilot configuration and calibration. There is quite a bit to do flying at different locations requiring re-calibration, but once setup it should be fine (A lot of Setting up ).. I will stay with my ver of OSD from:
http://www.intelligentflight.com/we...dule-P17C1.aspx
But I don't recommend dealing with them until you email first for a supply status ($250 AUS) and I use micro Anyvolt for regulation to cams and TX' 5v cam's and 12v cam's and 12v TX
http://www.dimensionengineering.com/ a lot of good DC-DC and lipo and speedie savers..

Hey savage.. nice job on the bracket and really the whole setup.. camera pointing forward will solve a lot of problems for focus / blur, on your landing gear I noticed the Rubber bands to act a a shock absorber I guess? I did a very similar thing but in place of rubber band which will fail after exposure to sun and time .. I used the white plastic coated spring curtain cord 3~4 mm dia.. cut to width.. X2 hooks and drilled holes in the position where you have the bands..VERY strong and the little extra weight is better insurance that the camera won't end up in the ground if the bands break on a heavy landing.. ONLY a suggestion.. .. and no need to make it tight. just have it to be straight with a little load when at rest on the ground.. No bounce on retract after landing heavy in fact you will notice a little stretching over time from heavy landing.. but that's ok. I used the same spring on 1/4 scale power planes as well that have poor landing gear setups and much cheaper than buying Carbon fibre landing gear's
Thx again,
Richard

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01-16-2009 02:25 PM  9 years agoPost 968
savage 40

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let's see some pictures of landing gear.. mine tends to bend back at the slight touch down. I need to redesign that. Yesterday I took it out in a 15mph wind with a few higher gusts.. she bouced like a ping pong ball but it flew.. kicked the shutter speed to 1/800 and got some shots ..no more blur! Just couldn't get very high because it was kinda spooky in that wind!

www.atc70decals.com www.signspeeweedesigns.com

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01-16-2009 09:17 PM  9 years agoPost 969
talk the torque

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Hey guys

Its great to see this thread is going so well. I have been a bit busy with my AP business, not all money unfortunately, but ironing out things all the time to try and better my business, anyway thats my excuse for not coming to this thread more often and I'm sticking to it

I got a front page picture on the 14th in our city newspaper on the stadium that is being built for the 2010 world soccer cup. All done with my SS and a 12MP camera. I have done a few photos of the stadium and made a slideshow and gallery page on my website. Take a look and tell me what you think. http://www.skyimaging.co.za

Kev its sounds like you are in your designing phase again. Its sounds like you really enjoying this FPV thing. I know you going to come out with some supa design. I'm very keen to see your standard SS design for shooting stills. I am also interested to hear your results with the auto pilot for that plane. I have bought gyros for my camera planes. I went this way because we very often fly low and in between objects to get the camera angles we want. I havnt tried the gyros yet and I am going to put them my FPV test ship for awhile before I fly in the city center with a possible failure. The reason I want to try them is that when it is very windy you dont have both your hands on the controls while you launching. The next reason is when you cross over from viewing in FPV to normal RC flying there is a 0.5 - 1 sec delay and in bad situations as much as 3 secs. In calm weather no problem but in windy conditions a lot can happen in 1 sec.

Savage the plane looks fantastic. I had a very similar setup to yours when I was shooting sidewards. Very Cool

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01-16-2009 09:29 PM  9 years agoPost 970
savage 40

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Torque, Envision, and Burnt. I took some shots today.. not sure what to make of them .. seem grainy.. any chance of Pm'ing me your emails so I can send you guys a shot or two to anylize?.. by right clicking on the photo you will be able to pull up the specs.. I fixed the gear issue.. zip tied to the motor mount!.. love them zip ties! help a brotha out!

www.atc70decals.com www.signspeeweedesigns.com

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01-16-2009 11:24 PM  9 years agoPost 971
Burnt Offering

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Hey Jason, long time no post buddy. Glad to see my engineer checking in from time to time. That slideshow is stupendous. Absolutley stunning work from any platform but even more so with a SS. Simply fantastic. With that in mind, I been talking to my design team, that would be Jason and Troy from Envision gear. Both of these guys are far superior to me when it comes to undestanding aerodynamics. I keep bouncing ideas off of these guys and after months have finally come up with a design that has me super excited. I mean I can hardly sleep at night. After searching hard for days I fianlly found a supplier for one critical component and I am set to start construction. I am looking at a target date of around aprilish for release if all R&D and testing goes well. I am excited for you all to see it. Stay tuned.

Savage I PM'd you my email. Fire away dude.

Kevo

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01-16-2009 11:47 PM  9 years agoPost 972
talk the torque

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Of all the things I learnt from you Kev, the biggest is Passion is way more powerful than engineering. You like a kid who has just had the blind fold removed and he is in this supa sized candy (or slow stick) shop

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01-17-2009 02:08 AM  9 years agoPost 973
Envision

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I was thinking addiction, so I looked them both up in the dictionary. Seems they both have something in common.

Passion: a strong or extravagant fondness, enthusiasm, or desire of slowstick AP.

Addiction: A habitual or compulsive involvement in an activity, such as slowstick AP.

LOL

Troy

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01-17-2009 02:19 AM  9 years agoPost 974
Burnt Offering

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All of the above! I'm GUILTY! Troy, I have one thing to say about you and Jason.

You like Chinese mushroom....... UFUNGI!! (thats "you fun guy" for those who don't speak chinese) Bah!

American by Birth, Alaskan by the grace of God!!

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01-17-2009 02:21 AM  9 years agoPost 975
Tonic

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Jason,

Very impressive photos of that soccer stadium. I called my wife over and showed her your work, I was as excited as if I took the pictures myself. I‘m impress with you website too, well thought out and very professional looking. Glad to see you checking back in, you need to come around more often.

Tonic

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01-17-2009 02:25 AM  9 years agoPost 976
savage 40

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what you guys think of those pictures?

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01-17-2009 02:28 AM  9 years agoPost 977
Burnt Offering

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I haven't gotten them yet Savage. Maybe typed my email wrong?? I just sent myself a test email directly from that link I sent you in my PM's "Sent Items". It worked great. Try again.

Kevo

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01-17-2009 02:39 AM  9 years agoPost 978
Tonic

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OK guys, I said I was going to build or rebuild my SS as to shot out the front. So I'm open for suggestions on what design to use.

Here is what I know so far: Six ounce camera with servo to trigger, I'm just the hobby AP so that’s as high tech as I’m going to get. Park 480 for power and then of course ailerons.

So are we talking about a pusher? I hate the idea of a pusher but I can't see any other way.

Tonic

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01-17-2009 10:25 AM  9 years agoPost 979
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I ordered the Aerial Wing cores from McClain .

http://www.mwcores.com/servlet/StoreFront

I plan to build it as a pusher too. I'm waiting for them to arrive.

I'm thinking of buying 2 more $20 SS kits for the parts and to make my current SS with a larger wing span.

I'll keep you guys posted.

Edit:

Is it possible to cover a foam wing with Aerocoat? Or necessary?

dan

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01-17-2009 01:28 PM  9 years agoPost 980
Tonic

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I went back through this thread from page one looking for ideas for a front camera mount. I found more on what I didn’t want then on what I did. Juan had a unit back on about page 3 or 4 with a raised motor in the front that I liked the best. I know most here have tried this design too, so do they fly OK?

On my trip back through memory lane, I was surprise how early on in the thread Juan, Savage, Jason, Envson, and a few more came in.

Tonic

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