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05-28-2007 03:14 AM  13 years ago
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josy11

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Help me identify my new Fury, and some initial setup questions
Hi All,
First off, allow me to introduce myslef. My name is Joe Finkelstine and I fly bth helis and planks (I am a member of Skymasters in Michigan). In the heli hanger I have 2 60 size rappys, a Trex 450XL, and now my new baby a Fury of unknown vintage.

I traded some PC setup and repiar services to a fellow club memeber for this Fury, as he built it about 4-5 years ago, but does not remember which one it was, nor all the upgrades he did. I would like to ask for help in the following ( I hope my photos come through post)

1) Anyone have a good guess as to which Fury model this is? - I am guessing it is an expert or similar vintage. THe primary reason I want to know is to try to find a builders manual online so I can get part numbers for when I meet the earth unexpectedly

2) I pulled off the rate gyro and reciever he had and I am plannining on putting on an unused GY 601. The problem is that this Fury does not have an obvious spot that I can tell where to mount the sensor, or the cpu unit. I am guessing this Fury was out before the GY gyros started coming out with cpu units - any suggestions here?

3) Likewise, I have an unused GV-1, that I would also like to put on this bird, but also cannot figure out the best place to put this. Along these lines, anyone hazard a guess as to the stock ratio for the pinion/main gear? - Heli has un-used YS 61ST currently and will have for at least this season to I get it running

4) I would like to put a header tank on this beast, but would like to know the best spot per you experienced ones.

5) my friend also said he remembers upgrading the head to an epensive one, costing nearly $400 back then and thought it was a Cliff Hyatt model - can anyone tell from the photo? - I also am trying to get a manual on this head if not stock

I am plannig on making this Fury my best of my fleet, and I am currently an intermediate flyer, doing rolls, loops, etc. Not yet into 3D, but getting there

Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Joe Finkelstine

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05-28-2007 03:33 AM  13 years ago
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Without seeing the head this is a Fury Extreme. Great flying heli.
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05-28-2007 04:23 AM  13 years ago
marc8090

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I can answer two of your questions. The head is the Tempest FAI head. As for the gear ratio simply count the number of teeth on the main gear and divide it by the number of teeth on the clutch bell.
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05-28-2007 08:39 AM  13 years ago
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if you look in my gallery i have a fury extreme with the gyr mounted and the gv1. although i dont see the same little platform for the gyro on your model.hmmmm.
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05-28-2007 09:27 AM  13 years ago
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As it has the white gears i believe it is the fury 60 expert,

The head is definately a tempest fai head,
Daren
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05-28-2007 11:08 AM  13 years ago
Ray Fernandez

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Your frames have the "fury" logo cut into the G10 material. That is Extreme. The Expert frames have "xl" etched on. The gears as well as the swashplate and clutch bell housing are Extreme. (ie., titanium color) The rotorhead is the Tempest FAI head.

oks to be a decent heli
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05-28-2007 12:55 PM  13 years ago
Jaguar

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Ray is rite
this looks like an extream with a tempest FAI head or a Teapest 3D with a FAI head the Teamest 3D had G10 frames while the FAI version had carbon fiber frames either way it should fly great it's an MA. and if your interested in trading that head I have an extream 3D head i'll trade you for it.
Tempest FAI,Stratus,Fury Extreme,Raptor90se,Rex450se,vigor cs, wow I have a real problem
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05-28-2007 01:29 PM  13 years ago
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The biggest difference between the fury expert and the extreme is the additional bearing block on the bottom of the mainshaft on the extreme which used a longer mainshaft . I cant tell from the pics but does this model have the extra bearing block below the maingear or just spacers bolted between the frames?

The main gear assembly was only different between the standard fury (black)and the fury expert (white).

The logos changed over time also. my 2 extremes ( kit # 20 & 21 off the line) have the XL logo cut in them and are g10.

You have got a nice head there also (tempest fai). most of the guys that do 3d with that machine like the extreme head the best and then the tempest 3d head next. The head you have will do 3d fine but is more expensive the repair. The extreme head has a metal headblock with plastic grips and a cliped blade axle.

hope this helps Tom good luck and have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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05-28-2007 06:04 PM  13 years ago
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the servo horns to your swash plate are too small, they need to be the large ones like on the tail servo
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05-28-2007 10:50 PM  13 years ago
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my extreme has a XL in the g10 frame and it is a extreme. it also has the bearing block on the bottom and it has the white gears. i was very confused when i got it cause i was told that it was a extreme. well ma says its a extreme. like THOMAS said, they did change over time. so for me its really hard to tell whats what.
but, THOMAS you said that the extreme has the plstic blade grips. well didnt the extreme also at some point come with them? or is that a tempest head?
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05-29-2007 01:46 AM  13 years ago
josy11

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Thanks for the help so far t everyone
Wow,
Fantastic replies gents - I really aprpeciate the help. I also have recieved several PM messages for direct help and I will be calling. It is MOnday night and I just got back from a long day at the field with my planks, getting them ready for the season.

From all of the replies, it appears I have the FAI head. From the name, I am assuming this head favors grace over rapid cyclic/collective pitch. I did dig into the spare parts bag I got and I actually found a portion of the head manual - the title page says "Rotor Head Instructions #123-01" - I am going to move forward at this point under the assumption it is the FAI head. It sounds like it is not the best for all out 3D, but I am not there yet, so perhaps it will work fine for now.

Also, Per one of the posts, I checked under the main gears and there is indeed another bearing block for the mainshaft, so according to the posts, it appears that I have an extreme.

AS to the post on counting the number of teeth, I also thought of that, but the pinion gear makes this pretty difficult from what I can tell. I did notice that a replacement main gear I had said 9.0:1, and this ratio sounds in the ball park for a 61 - I have also found through poking around that MA offered ratios of 9.0:1, 9.3:1, and 9.5:1 - I will do my best to cont teeth, but in the end, I will rogram a ratio into the GV-1 and then check it with a tach - I shoul dbe able to determine actual ratio that way I suspect

I am still scratching my head on where to mount al of theses electrnics, and one individal asked me to check his gallery out - thanks for the invite - I will be there soon!

Once again, thanks to all for the great replies, I really appreciate the help and I will be back with more questions

Joe
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05-29-2007 03:21 AM  13 years ago
josy11

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It's looking more like a Fury expert now
Hi All,
After further digging into the extreme and expert drawings, I think I have a strong clue now as to my Fury starting life as an expert and then being upgraded considerably. here is the clue I found. After talking with a f ew folks about nowhere to mount my gyro, they told me where on the frame a mount block shoul dbe with holes for 4 small bolts. Well, my fram only has two vs. 4 bolt holes , and this matches the expert frames, as I also found in my bag of parts the two piece servo mount flanges, which are on the expert drawings only - The fury extreme appears to have a one piece gyro mount. Also, I have found a few parts bags in the spare parts he gave me as apeparing to be from the original kit he did not use as he upgraded during assembly. The parts bags all refer to fury expert.

It appears that my friend supplied me with a major upgraded Expert almost all the way to a Tempest - The head is the FASI unit, the tail is the upgraded Tempest CNC unit - I think he went nuts at the hobby store! - good for me, now however, I am looking at pulling the fan to drill GV-1 magnets
Joe Finkelstine
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05-31-2007 03:51 AM  13 years ago
Thomas L Erb

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glad you are getting to know your machine better joe. miniature has many more gear ratios then you have found so far. they have a 10,11,12 and 13 tooth pinions and 90,93 and 95 tooth maingears (87 and 92 also but not sure if they are for split gear setup) they can make almost any ratio you want. my current project is a stratus with a os 70sz geared to 8.63.

sla the extreme always came as far as i know with the metal head block, the cliped head axle and plastic grips. the latest kits may have the new flybar control setup but i am not sure.

Joe you will love that machine!!!!! good luck and happy flying Tom
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