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05-23-2007 05:02 AM  13 years ago
JAGNZ

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Man first you say 'I want to get into this big time' and then say you're on a budget. This is an oxymoron if I ever heard one. IF you do not have quite a bit of spare income to support this hobby, IMO you'll never really enjoy it...

BTW - it makes NO difference what you can do on the SIM. We're ALL masters on the SIM. Transferring that to real life with its pucker factor is the hard part...

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05-23-2007 05:18 AM  13 years ago
bavdrftr318

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I never said I'm on a budget... I said that maybe it will be better to go with the 450 to have extra money to spare for broken parts.
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05-23-2007 05:22 AM  13 years ago
lsurber

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LOL! That is true about being masters on the sim! I used to set my heli on the ground and run the battery down with it spooled because I was frightened to take it up and crash! I would end up making excuses as to why I didn't fly it...........typical excuse would be too much wind!

I do believe that you can enjoy this hobby for cheaper than most will spend by looking at alternative machines such as the 3DX/HDX products. I have T-REX450SE, HDX450SE, and HDX500. All are very good quality with plenty of parts available. The 3DX/HDX stuff has been extremely good for me and are my favorites.........and they are inexpensive.

Lee

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05-23-2007 06:23 AM  13 years ago
aerton

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I had 450xl and Swift 16, both came around 3000 total, with chargers, upgrades over time, this and that, something that broke, something that I didn't like, etc. I am pretty sure any heli will hover around 3000 and stabilize there. It starts at 1200-1500, but it doesn't stop there. You can save only by starting right and generously right from the beginning, especially if you already know how to fly.
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05-23-2007 05:12 PM  13 years ago
ERP

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If your going electric, I'd look start by looking at the price of batteries. Your going to want more than one and they become a large part of the cost pretty quickly especially on the larger E-Helis.

Also in transitioning from the Sim to a real Heli, you have to at somepoint decide to risk your investment, it took me a long time to attempt my first figure eight on my real heli, when I could easilly do loops and rolls in the Sim. In the end it feels a lot like the sim but there is a huge leap of faith with your heli riding on it.
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05-23-2007 06:02 PM  13 years ago
bavdrftr318

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Yeah I guess that the t-rex 450se would be better for my first "high performance" heli because the batteries would be like 70 bucks vs. 300 haha. And I suppose it'd really only be worth it if you had 3 or 4 batteries so you aren't charging ALL DAY. So maybe the 450se IS a better choice. The reason I want to go with the align t-rex (more expensive) other than other brands is that I know that t-rex is top of the line and down the road It will have paid of to buy one of the best quality heli's. So let me put together a list

450se package deal ~550
gyro and gyro servo ~150
3x SERVOS ~100
Battery ~70

It's looking close to 800 dollars. I know that none of these figures are exactly accurate, just guesses. What do you guys think?
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05-23-2007 06:15 PM  13 years ago
Jag72

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Get a used trex se...
You can find a completely RTR trex se here on RR for Cheap money...I'd go that route and save a few bucks...

for 600$ you should be able to find a RTR trex Se with a couple batteries..
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05-23-2007 07:54 PM  13 years ago
bavdrftr318

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Do you think that the T-rex 500 (when it comes out) would be significantly more expensive to run than a 450SE? Like for example how much would the batteries be a piece for the 500?
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05-23-2007 08:01 PM  13 years ago
lsurber

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I pay $76 ea for my packs (4s1p 4200mah) and they rock......just have to find the right supplier for pricing.

There are only a few Lipo manufacturers in the world!!!! Batteries are sorted by batch or lot into like C ratings and like Amp Hour capacities. After manufacture and classification it is really all about assembly and that you can only screw up by using bad wire.

You can tell the quality of a battery pack by the wire alone in most cases!

Also, do not underestimate other products........My 3DX/HDX Tomahawk as pictured above will kick the #@$% out of a TREX.....all the way around for 1/2 the price.

I also have a TREX450SE so I feel well qualified to compare these helis!

The REX has issues with it's tail......which you can ONLY overcome by upgrading to a microheli slider assembly or the above pictured 3DX450 tail........NOTICE the dual linkage(top & bottom)slider..... very precise and many more rpm capable.

It's your choice though........it's your money to spend!

Lee
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05-23-2007 09:31 PM  13 years ago
NCC81701

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I don't know exactly where you are at but it sounds like I was in a similar situation at one point. If you can fly the Blade CP, a well set up 450 will fly like a dream so I wouldn't worry about stability issues.

As with budget, I find that the non-recurring cost is what digs the deepest holes in your pocket. Things like a good radio, charger/balancer. I've probably spent more on those things to get my 450 flying than on the 450 itself. But you want to spend more on those things anyways since you'll probably stick w/ your radio and charger for a long long time. I spent in total to get my 450 flying from the ground up was in the 1000 - 1200 range.
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05-23-2007 10:42 PM  13 years ago
airboss

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my 2 cents
well after all that i think you should get the 600,there isnt a better flying heli out there and repairs are cheap.besides its what all the 450 guys want.you wont regret it .
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05-23-2007 10:51 PM  13 years ago
rufusis

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By "budget" I meant not to go for cheap components, especialy if you want to fly 3d. Cheap servos, etc. will disappoint.Now to make it fly like it does in my dreams!
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05-24-2007 07:56 PM  13 years ago
JRjoe

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Always remember that you WILL get what you pay for in this hobby. If you try and go cheap, thats EXACTLY what you WILL get......
JRjoe.....
Indoor plumbing??? No, we don't need that!!!
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