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05-22-2007 04:45 AM  13 years ago
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tutelar-rc

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Schluter Heli-Boy Flies Again!
Having recently renewed my interest in RC hobbies, helicopters specifically, I have just completed refurbishing my Schluter Heli-Boy.

I have owned this model since the early '80s, but never learned to fly it.

A sincere THANK YOU to Joe in Ky (golojo) who was a significant help in being my source for parts!

I was able to take it for a short flight today - a feat that I never conquered in the '80s...
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05-22-2007 01:48 PM  13 years ago
jczankl

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Congrats on your flight!!! Howed she feel?
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05-23-2007 12:04 AM  13 years ago
JoeyDiaz

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Good looking Heliboy, congrats
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05-23-2007 12:37 AM  13 years ago
tutelar-rc

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The flight was a little scary - mechanical mixing on the tail meant a LOT of tail control was required. In addition, the low head speed and weight of the model (especially as compared to my Blade CPPs) equated to the feeling of trying to fly a pig with wings...

I am thinking of upgrading the electronics to put a gyro into it to assist with the tail control.

Any thoughts?
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05-23-2007 02:16 PM  13 years ago
jczankl

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I am running just ball bearing gyro's in most of all my antiques. I am currently flying a GMP Rebel...(bigger brother to the Cricket). I would just put a simple ball bearing gyro to keep it like the yesteryears...I am flying a Heli-Star with no gyro, and if you get the mixing right you shouldn't have any problems. It's actually kindof fun.

just my two cents.
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05-23-2007 03:24 PM  13 years ago
RAK402

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Outstanding that you have one of these flying!

They were very good machines (I had three of them).

What headspeed are you running? I remember these as being quite stable (although perhaps not by modern standards), very aggressive, and with quite high (for the time) rotor speed. About 1700 RPM, if memory serves.

At any rate, congratulations!

Beautiful ship!
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05-24-2007 02:45 AM  13 years ago
tutelar-rc

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jczankl: I agree that if I get the mixing right that I don't need the gyro. However, my skill is still pretty much at a beginner level, so setup is a bit of a challenge.

I followed the setup guide closely (I still have the original manuals) - the heli stays pretty steady unless/until I give it some more "extreme" input; then it spins and my flying skills are not at a level that I am comfortable with the reasonably sudden change in orientation. I'm hoping that a gyro will take some/most of that challenge out of flying the Heli-Boy for me at this time.

Any good leads on a ball bearing gyro that will work with my Cox/Sanwa 6-channel system?
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05-24-2007 02:52 AM  13 years ago
tutelar-rc

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RAK402:

I'm not sure what head speed I'm running, as I have not tached it yet. I understand that it is probably running about 1700rpm, but my Blade CPPs are running over 2000rpm and are a LOT lighter model.

In flight, the Heli-Boy is extremely stable (again I am comparing to the Blade CPP), but I am struggling with it spinning and orientation.

In comparison to the Blade CPP, I would not call it aggressive, but I have not put on the Bell-Hiller upgrade yet...it definitely feels a LOT heavier in the air; although that may still be setup issues that I have not worked through.

Having said that, I am having a LOT of fun learning to fly my Heli-Boy! I am significantly further ahead with it now, than I was in the early '80s --> thanks in a big way to all the knowledge available on sites like this one.
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05-24-2007 03:42 AM  13 years ago
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I too have a heli-boy/222. I haven't got mine done yet. The best leads for ball bearing gyros is to go to swap meets and pick them up for 5 or 10 bucks.
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05-25-2007 01:01 PM  13 years ago
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Good job with the Heli-Boy!
I'm getting all inspired to get one of my Heli-Boys in the air but have to complete some other projects first.

There's no shame in wanting to add a gyro. When they first became widely available the majority of experienced heli pilots frowned at their use. "A real man flies without a gyro!" Yeah, whatever...

You can use any mechanical gyro you wish with the Cox/Sanwa system. Just remember to swap the gyro + and - power wires at any gyro connector that's going to connect with the Sanwa receiver if you find yourself with a gyro manufactured by anyone other than Sanwa. If Futaba, interchange the Red and Black connector wires. If the gyro is JR, swap the Brown and Red wires. Can't remember the colors of the JMW gyros but the idea is the same.

Happy flying!

HHC

So many heli's - too little time...
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05-25-2007 05:45 PM  13 years ago
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heli_headcase:

Thanks for the direction! When I get the gyro, this info will save me a LOT of headache and searching for the correct info...
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05-26-2007 02:13 AM  13 years ago
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I have 3- Heli-boys, and I still fly with a F-154 gyro, does great, I think what the previous said about a real man is try any heli w/o a gyro and you are in for some fun, I do it all the time, great fun and you can benifit greatly as a better pilot, just like D.S. did. Just my own 2-cents worth.
R.B.
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