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05-23-2007 05:59 PM  13 years ago
electriciancarl

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We are doomed.
OK. A little dramatic, however the point is we no longer enjoy the system of government we once did. It has evolved into a less than "true" democracy. So where does it evolve from here? Thats what worries me.
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05-23-2007 07:23 PM  13 years ago
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OK. A little dramatic, however the point is we no longer enjoy the system of government we once did. It has evolved into a less than "true" democracy. So where does it evolve from here? Thats what worries me.
Can you say: "Totalatarism- Monarchy- Socialism"

We are far too quickly becoming "Subjects" instead of "Citizens"

I can see it now- THEY will admend the Constitution to include: "We the Sheeple......."
Liberals are like a "Slinky", useless but entertaining when pushed down stairs....
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05-23-2007 10:06 PM  13 years ago
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[quote]OK. A little dramatic, however the point is we no longer enjoy the system of government we once did. It has evolved into a less than "true" democracy. So where does it evolve from here? Thats what worries me.

You don't want a "true democracy." That would be chaos. We are a republic. That doesn't not imply majority rule. The Bill of Rights gives each of us permission to do and speak as we wish as long as it doesn't interfere with anybody else's rights. At least that is as it should be. Right and left wingers hate that so they do all they can to make us live their way.

Pharmacists are starting to balk at dispensing birth control because of their religious views. And the conservatives love this. But they are wrong. If someone doesn't want to participate in a lawful process, whether it be dispensing certain drugs, transporting alcohol or working on Sunday, they are welcome to quit. Just like if they don't like something on TV, they can change the channel.

The real point of terrorism is not the act itself, but our reaction to the act.
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05-23-2007 10:22 PM  13 years ago
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Pharmacists are starting to balk at dispensing birth control because of their religious views.
Man I hope that doesn't happen. If it wasn't for birth control I'd have a small army as a family right now.
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05-23-2007 11:04 PM  13 years ago
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We no longer live in a true democracy.
America never was a democracy. It is now, and has always been a representative republic. What the hell did public schools do to our great country???
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05-24-2007 12:51 AM  13 years ago
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because we use the television to baby sit our kids and people are more worried about amercian idol then the country going to hell.
That would be a good argument as to why 'current' immigrants are getting 'their' way.

I'm 32 and I was fortunate to be raised in the last decent generation of kids.

The last 2 gen's are for the most part, infatuated with greed, debt and self-indulgence.

Need to lay down the hammer and start with this generation of kids, families and schools.
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05-24-2007 02:29 AM  13 years ago
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I'm 32 and I was fortunate to be raised in the last decent generation of kids.
blah blah blah. Why do people say such stupid things?
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05-24-2007 02:36 AM  13 years ago
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im 31 and infatuated with greed, debt and self indulgence.
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05-24-2007 01:47 PM  13 years ago
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As usual I have to budge in...
They come to YOUR country , take a lot of YOUR jobs
Yup. I'm sure there is loads of out of work native cabbies, toilet washers and tomato pickers in the US just like it's here with us.

The ancestors of the people we are talking about here went to that country and took it from those that lived there by force. Then they "imported" lot's of labour from another part of the world as they didn't like the dirty work and decided not to pay them. Now you complain that others come and fill those vacant positions and claim they take stuff from people that took it from others....gimme a break.

If there's some that will live by market rules it's them. If you don't take that cab they'll be out of business. If there were enough native american cabbies they would do something else. If there's anyone trying to live the american dream it's them. They actually try to make money for themselves instead of sitting on their fat asses complaining about their neighbour having the wrong colour skin or that he wear a turban..
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05-24-2007 02:32 PM  13 years ago
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blah blah blah. Why do people say such stupid things?
Figure it out.

Sarcasm sure gets lost in here.
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05-24-2007 03:24 PM  13 years ago
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Tintin
This thread make me want to study history more....interesting reading, especially the part where someone discover new land and what happened after that

The guy who started this thread must be a historian who is very familiar with Dutchmen Williem Janszoon and Father Matteo Ricci
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05-24-2007 03:28 PM  13 years ago
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The guy who started this thread must be a historian who is very familiar with Dutchmen Williem Janszoon and Father Matteo Ricci
... But honey it was only $$$
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05-24-2007 05:59 PM  13 years ago
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Since Tintin sees no problem with the U.S. Immigration problem, let's just pack up all the illegals and ship them and all the problems they cause to norway. And let him deal with them, I bet his view would change. And as to this reform bill... They say it's not amnesty yet the more they reveal of it says otherwise. We have been down this road before amnesty is not the answer! New laws are not the answer!
ENFORCING THE LAWS WE HAVE ARE! Although a few new laws could help.
To enter this country.
1)You must be capable of reading, writing, and speaking at least elementary English.
2)We need to enforce the laws we already have.
3) we need to eliminate all safe harbors for illegals and the people creating them.
4)The people creating safe habors need to be held legally responsible(They are providing safe harbor to fugitives and I seem to remember this being illegal)
5)When it is found that someone is here illegally follow these steps

5a)if caught in the act of a any crime they will serve the same sentance as an american would and then upon completion be deported.

5b)All those convicted of crimes and deported will be documented photographed and finger printed, hell maybe even put in a DNA database.

5c)And for those convicted of anything more than a simple traffic violation, They will be denied citizenship period. No appeal, no second chances. Sorry America has enough domestic criminals we don't need other countries sending theirs as well.

6)Require all those seeking entrance/citizenship in our country to require an sponsor. (the sponsor will be held in some way responsible for the acts of the individual they are a sponsor of.)
6a)The only exception to this rule is in the case of travelers and they must pass through customs just like we do.

7)Even with a sponsor you must have a work visa and a place of employment if you stay is to exceed 4 weeks. Amd you will be taxed exactly like everyone else. Social security and medicare, etc. will be used to support the infastructure to track all, and I hate to use this word but for the lack of a better one, "Guest workers".

7)You will be required to carry automotive insurance in accordance with local laws. You will also be required to carry some form of health insurance.

And that is the end of my rant. I could go on for days. But Ithink it is already better than the "no amnesty" amnesty bill.
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05-24-2007 07:50 PM  13 years ago
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To enter this country.
1)You must be capable of reading, writing, and speaking at least elementary English.
Hmmm, you don't seem to do the reading bit very well......

I cannot recall where I said you have no immigration problems, you clearly have.

However y'all seem to be forgetting that y'all in fact have ancestors who themselves were immigrants (except the native americans and by that I mean people of various heritage like Cree, Kiowa, Sioux etc etc).

Your ancestors were not as kind as todays immigrants to the native population. They sure didn't come over and stated driving cabs....

2ndly this thread wasn't about illegals but minority people that actually has a job and support themselves.

I trust you will accept the same rules if you wan't to travel abroad?
There are lot's of americans working abroad, if your rules should apply also the other way around you all would have to stay at home....

Y'all really would have big problems going anywhere for more than short vacations if you were to learn other languages. While a great part of the world speak English, not many Americans speak anything but their own language....

I sincerly hope you solve your immigration problem and then I'll remind you about it when you yap about the price of vegetables having ben doubled or that there are none to be had because you don't have any mexicans to harvest them....

Tell me, why do you actually think most of them come? To rob you?
If that's what you belive them you should find somewhere to hide cause you must be a scared little buggar.

There is only one thing that will help you. If there are no jobs the flow will go away and who is emplying the most of them? It surely ain't the other Mexicans....
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05-24-2007 08:01 PM  13 years ago
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There is only one thing that will help you. If there are no jobs the flow will go away and who is emplying the most of them? It surely ain't the other Mexicans....
Simply not true. The vast majority of illegals are free loaders. They come hear for free health care, food stamps, section 8 "free" housing, and of course, less than minimum wage jobs. There is a reason it is called minimum wage. It is the minimum that a person can live on. Any less, and your homeless (just like most illegals). Screw them. Put them in shackles on a train and ship them back to Mexico. How are a bunch of free loaders going to benefit our country? It won't. It will only run our country down the tubes until we are just like Mexico. Ever been there? It is a filthy pig pen of a country. The resorts are nice, other than that, it is full of pick pockets, rapists, con-artists and millions of lazy uneducated people.
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05-25-2007 02:35 AM  13 years ago
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05-25-2007 03:01 AM  13 years ago
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We have to feed, cloth, shelter, provide healthcare, jobs, and even provide legal representation to protect the human rights uneducated Mexican illegals. But... If we enter Mexico illegally, they can take our money, beat us up, throw us in jail and throw away the keys. Screw Mexico! I will never again spend a dime of my money in their nasty country. We need to take care of Americans, not Mexicans! Let Mexico take care of Mexicans.
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05-25-2007 03:19 AM  13 years ago
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Subject: Someone Finally Said IT!!!!!!!!!
Im Proud To Be White .
Someone finally said it.
How many are actually paying attention to this?
There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc.
And then there are just Americans.
You pass me on the street
and sneer in my direction.
You Call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,'
'Whitey,' 'Caveman' ..
And that's OK.
But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ... You call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you,
So why are the ghettos the most
dangerous places to live?
You have the United Negro College Fund.
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You Have Yom Hashoah
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi
You have the NAACP.
You have BET.
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) . We'd be racists.
If we had a White Pride Day ..
You would call us racists.
If we had White History Month
We'd be racists.
If we had any organization for only whites
to 'advance' OUR lives ..
We'd be racists.
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce,
a Black Chamber of Commerce,
And then we just have the
plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?
If we had a college fund that only gave to
white students scholarships
... You know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly proclaimed
Black Colleges in the US ,
Yet if there were 'White colleges' ..
THAT would be a racist college.
In the Million Man March,
you believed that you were marching
For your race and rights.
If we marched for our race and rights, You would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're Not afraid to announce it.
But when we announce our white pride ..
You call us racists.
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us.
But, when a white police officer
Shoots a black gang member
or beats up a black drug-dealer running
From the law and posing a threat to society .
You call him a racist.
I am proud.
But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites
can be racists?
There is nothing improper about this post,
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05-25-2007 03:56 AM  13 years ago
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Jimbo,
That is from Carlos Mencias comedy act. It was on comedy central a few weeks ago. Funny that a Mexican like Mencia gets it. But, our politicians can't! White folks, enjoy being the majority while you still can. Mexicans are multiplying like rabbits, while white people are barely even having children anymore. The reality is that Mexicans will overtake the white population in a couple more generations. Due the research! It is the truth. If you want to argue otherwise, you'd better bring facts to the table!
Doug
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05-25-2007 03:58 AM  13 years ago
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