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04-22-2009 06:00 AM  10 years ago
Micro-Maniac

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Are you using a throttle-to-rudder mix? Sounds like it may be backwards
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04-22-2009 05:42 PM  10 years ago
skydance

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Tail motor
I'm not sure my dx7 is progam right, how is yours set up?
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04-22-2009 06:36 PM  10 years ago
Micro-Maniac

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I use the more complicated auxilary-to-rudder mix which uses two switches

I recommend this rudder-to-rudder mix that only uses the throttle-hold switch

    [PROG.MIX2]
    RUDD> RUDD
    RATE: + 100%
    0%
    SW:HOLD
    OFFSET: -100
Power the heli with the Hold switch in the '0' position and wait for the gyro to initialize then flip the Hold switch to the '1' position to arm the tail esc then flip the Hold switch back to the '0' position to fly

 

BTW Disconnect the main motor and make sure the tail is operating correctly

Tail motor rmp should increase with right rudder and decrease with left rudder - If not you need to reverse the rudder channel on the radio

Tail motor rpm should also increase when the heli is rotated counter-clockwise and decrease when the heli is rotated clockwise - If not then you need to flip the "norm/rev" switch position on the gyro
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04-23-2009 12:35 AM  10 years ago
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Ok guys i got the wiring all sorted, now i just gotta deal with the tail stopping issue.

I know this has been discussed before, I just can't seem to find the post.

Another question is with the HexTronik 10 Amp ESC I Don't seem to see any soft/Hard start options. I have the usb link and checked there, also I don't see it on the stick programing menu?

Any one have experience with this little ESC?

Thanks for all the help.
Fear is the little death,The mind killer. I will allow my fear to pass through me.Only I will remain
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04-23-2009 05:38 AM  10 years ago
skydance

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Brushless tail problems
Well with your help I think I might be a little closer. I've everything set the way you stated. The only way the motor spins is when I give it right hand rudder,not when I just move the thottle straight up. I've my gyro set at 50% for the delay and 100% for the limit. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with this problem as this is my first attempt at a build.
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04-23-2009 05:44 AM  10 years ago
Micro-Maniac

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Sounds good

I don't think you'll need any delay though - Had my delay at 0 and limit at 100
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04-23-2009 12:30 PM  10 years ago
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Micro-Maniac: Nice to see you active on the forum again! Welcome back...
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04-23-2009 07:01 PM  10 years ago
skydance

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Brushless tail problems
Well with your help I'm might be a little closer. When I move the trim for the rudder all the way to the right on the tx it starts to work a little better, any thought for what to do next?
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04-23-2009 07:04 PM  10 years ago
Micro-Maniac

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Shouldn't need any trim with the 401 - Are you sure it's in heading-hold mode and not rate mode?
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04-24-2009 01:56 AM  10 years ago
skydance

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Brushless tail problems
I'm feel kind of supid, I look in my manuel and wasn't able to figure out where to find if I'm in holding mode or rate. How or where do I find how to progam that?
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04-24-2009 02:02 AM  10 years ago
Micro-Maniac

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Try just setting your gear channel '+' value to 45 provided you have the gear channel assigned to the gear switch and not gyro - The led on the gyro should light when in hh mode when theres no rudder input
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04-24-2009 07:30 PM  10 years ago
skydance

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Talk
I would like to talk to you about the possibility of meeting you and helping me set up my heli. I see that we both live in the same state. 360-305-9055.

P.S. I don't except you to do it for free.
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04-24-2009 07:40 PM  10 years ago
Micro-Maniac

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Well theres a funfly near here in a few weeks if you want more reason for a road trip and can wait that long etc

http://www.runryder.com/t493668p1/
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04-24-2009 07:52 PM  10 years ago
skydance

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Fun Fly
I will be there on saturday, can we hook up for a while?
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04-24-2009 07:54 PM  10 years ago
Micro-Maniac

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It's a date then - We'll get it flying
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04-24-2009 07:57 PM  10 years ago
skydance

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Thanks I'm going to figure out how to send you how my tx is program and maybe you can see what I'm doing wrong. If I write out how to I attach it so you get it?
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04-24-2009 08:08 PM  10 years ago
Micro-Maniac

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Here's one of my model programs you can compare with
But I'm using HS-55 servos which opperate opposite etc of S75 servos
[SYSTEM MENU]
[MODEL SELECT]
SELECT
MODEL 3 BLADE CP
HELI DSM

[MODEL NAME]
MODEL 3 HELI
DSM <BLADE CP>

[TYPE SELECT]
MODEL 3 BLADE CP
HELI

[MODEL RESET]
MODEL 3 HELI DSM
DATA RESET
INTEG-T
00:00:00

[TRAINER]
INH

[THRO RECOVERY]
INH

[INPUT SELECT]
AUX2 GEAR
AUX2 GEAR

[SWASH TYPE]
3 SERVOS
120°

[FUNCTION MENU]
[D/R & EXP]
POS-0/1
AILE ELEV RUDD
EXP + 25% EXP + 25% EXP + 15%
D/R 100% D/R 100% D/R 100%

[AUTO D/R EXP]
NORM INH
ST-1 INH
ST-2 INH
HOLD INH

[REVERSING SW]
REV. 4 6
NORM 1 2 3 5 7

[SUB TRIM]
THRO AILE
0 L 50
ELEV RUDD
D 44 L 0
GEAR PIT.
0 0
AUX2
0

[TRAVEL ADJUST]
THRO AILE
H 100% L 100%
L 100% R 100%
ELEV RUDD
D 100% L 100%
U 100% R 100%
GEAR PIT.
+ 45% H 100%
- 45% L 100%
AUX2
+ 100%
- 100%

[SWASH MIX]
3 SERVOS
AILE + 70%
120° ELEV + 70%
PIT. + 30%
EXP INH

[THRO HOLD]
HOLD POS. 0.0%
SW:RUDD D/R

[THRO CURVE]
POINT-L POINT-1 POINT-2 POINT-3 POINT-H EXP
NORM 0.0% 60.0% 80.0% 80.0% 80.0% ON
ST-1 90.0% 90.0% 90.0% 90.0% 90.0% ON
ST-2 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% ON

[PITCH CURVE]
POINT-L POINT-1 POINT-2 POINT-3 POINT-H EXP
NORM 0.0% 25.0% 50.0% 75.0% 100.0% OFF
ST-1 0.0% 25.0% 50.0% 75.0% 100.0% OFF
ST-2 0.0% 25.0% 50.0% 75.0% 100.0% OFF
HOLD 0.0% 25.0% 50.0% 75.0% 100.0% OFF

[REVO MIX]
NORM STNT
UP 0% UP 0%
DN 0% DN 0%

[PROG.MIX1]
INH

[PROG.MIX2]
RUDD> RUDD
RATE: +100%
0%
SW:HOLD
OFFSET: -100

[PROG.MIX3]
INH

[TIMER]
MODEL 3
DOWN-T
5:00
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04-24-2009 09:40 PM  10 years ago
skydance

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Brushless tail problems
You're awsome,let you know how it works out.
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04-25-2009 04:33 AM  10 years ago
skydance

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Settings
Hey Mirco, I used your settings and it act about the same. I'm using two seperate speed controlers, one for the main and one for the tail. The company I purchase them from sail to cut the red wire that goes to the servo for tail if I was using one,he said I already had power from the main motor controler. Also my tail motor even with a large heat sink get so hot I can't touch it only after a few second. I hope this help you to help me figure this hot rod out.
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04-29-2009 06:12 PM  10 years ago
skydance

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Settings
On my seperate build do I set up my swashplate before I program my Dx7?
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