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01-28-2007 11:52 PM  12 years ago
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when to start auto's?
im fairly new to flying and i can hover and some foward and backward flight pretty good. i can hover in and all that kind of stuff. should i be practicing auto's yet? is that considered part of the basics?
i did a couple from about 15 foot and all went good but im a little reluctant on going any further. so is 15 foot good enough for autos?
seems to me its meant to only get the heli down in one piece.
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01-28-2007 11:56 PM  12 years ago
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If you are doing them from 15 feet you are ready!! I would never advise anyone to do "baby" autos from any higher than 6 feet so you are well in control, practice your approaches with power on , when you can stick it down in front of you under power take the plunge!!
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01-29-2007 12:00 AM  12 years ago
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As soon as you start "flying around" it's time to learn auto's. Learning to do a proper auto will save you hard cash and lots of down time. Here is a great link explaining the basics on "How to Auto"...

http://www.raptortechnique.com/lear...m#autorotations

Good Luck,
Jay


Of coarse I know how to fly this thing, but if you see me running try to keep up!!
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01-29-2007 12:02 AM  12 years ago
wuzofoz

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if your doing autos at 15 ft you won't have a problem from higher.
do like Droid said and you will be fine.
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01-29-2007 12:06 AM  12 years ago
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i was also wondering, it seems that if my throttle hold switch was reversed it would be easier for me to flip cause my hands arent that big so trying to constantly fly with my finger under the switch is not easy for me.
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01-29-2007 12:15 AM  12 years ago
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i was also wondering, it seems that if my throttle hold switch was reversed it would be easier for me to flip cause my hands arent that big so trying to constantly fly with my finger under the switch is not easy for me.
If you have an advanced radio, you can assign any switch at any position you like.
Just do it.
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01-29-2007 02:57 AM  12 years ago
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Get started with those autos man. The first time you have a flameout you will be glad you practiced for this. On top of that, they're a heck of a lot of fun! If you're nervous, see if there is someone you can buddy box with with. Do a couple hundred on the sim too. Then go out, climb up high and do a few upstairs, click out of hold at 50 feet or so and fly away to do another. After you've done a dozen of these start working your way down closer to the ground and fully commit to doing an auto all the way to the ground. You'll be glad you did. Caution: these are addictive!
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01-29-2007 04:46 AM  12 years ago
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ok did a bunch more from about 50 foot. i always ride them all the way down cause i thought it might be hard on the clutch. well apparantley its not to bad so i'll flip switch and try that for a bit. it is fun though. the tail wants to drift real bad but i imagine this is normal though cause i lost speed on the head. i also did the foward pitch just a bump and it looks freakin awesome when it lands like a plane. i have a plowed snow driveway so it just slides right along.
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01-29-2007 04:54 AM  12 years ago
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When you are doing sliding autos just be extra careful, especialy if you have rubber skid stops. If you do have them, take them off. We all know what the outcome will be...

Jay


Of coarse I know how to fly this thing, but if you see me running try to keep up!!
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01-29-2007 06:11 AM  12 years ago
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I actually did my 2nd auto today. Was flying my Raven and the tail pitch slider came loose (the one screw I didn't check on the helicopter). It started to spin and I was about 100ft up. Hit the hold and got it done in one piece. It wasn't the perfect auto, had a slight bounce, but it was in one piece. I definitely recommend learning them and I will be doing the same shortly once I get more comfortable with my new machine and my old skills ! Goodluck!

Mikel
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01-29-2007 12:04 PM  12 years ago
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the tail wants to drift real bad but i imagine this is normal though cause i lost speed on the head.
What machine do you have ? Does it have a driven tail??
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01-29-2007 12:12 PM  12 years ago
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With a goog hh gyro (ae futaba401)the tail should be as good as when the power is on.

Sliding autos are fun and do have a bite be careful

Pick a spot and start zeroing in
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01-29-2007 12:27 PM  12 years ago
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With a good hh gyro (ae futaba401)the tail should be as good as when the power is on.
Only if he has a driven tail....
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01-29-2007 12:50 PM  12 years ago
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Hey.
A little trick for autos is bring the throttle hold up by a couple of notches so theres still a tiney bit of power running through to the blades...
Forward/Backward speed helps autos Lots!
My R50 holds eough momentum to hit throttle hold, tail down from what ever height, pull out to level at about 4 foot then ride it back and keep the head speed up with the backward momentum

I just warn you that it can come at you Fast heh..

-Jvr
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01-29-2007 01:41 PM  12 years ago
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It still will be ok , just loose during the final pump of collective ,,,a little twist at the end. It doesn't have to be a driven tail, did a bunch last week with a 30 undriven. Just keep it smooth
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01-29-2007 05:38 PM  12 years ago
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I just warn you that it can come at you Fast heh..
You can say that again chris
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01-29-2007 06:21 PM  12 years ago
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I also shoot auto's in normal mode so if you have to bail out it doesn't bang the one-way with a full throttle hit, unless you are already at 100% collective and looking for more
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01-29-2007 06:28 PM  12 years ago
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whoops, i have been doing them in normal flight mode. but i have been using a fast rpm though. it is working. im going to start flying in fm1 pretty soon though.
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01-29-2007 07:02 PM  12 years ago
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Hey,
I usually auto with throttle hold on and switched into Idle up Two.
The theory behind this is that if you need to bail out of an auto, and you can see your losing to much headspeed... KEEP THE COLLECTIVE LOW...
Very low, even negative if yr not toooo close to the ground...
Flick TH and you go straight into idle up, without any load on the blades they spool up reaaalllllll quick.... then slam the pitch and about a minute later you'll lose orientation and probly the heli because you left the stick @ full

-Jvc
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01-29-2007 07:10 PM  12 years ago
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that would be funny!!
that would go through all phases of emotion in like 30 seconds.
first cool lets do an auto....going good...good.. uh oh.. losing head speed fast.... uh oh "now panicked"... hit thrott h... whew going back up..."relief and satisfaction"..whooa.. going real fast now.... oh on.. which way am i facing... "confused" ... "panicked"... why me... there it goes into the ground.
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