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01-30-2007 04:21 AM  11 years agoPost 41
Sealerman

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I rest my case....Only puerile insults instead of reasoned discourse
So why do you join in with your lame posts?
Reminds me of an ongoing debate I have with my college prof brother in law...He teaches a class in ethics..I contend ethics cannot be taught!
Well ethics can't be taught by someone like you and it's to late to teach them to a college student who hasn't been taught them already. But I feel I am doing a great job teaching them to my children, thankyou very much.
Sealerbabe...If Im a flying monkey, that's great! At least I can fly!
It's not the flying part that is the problem with your kind drdot, it's the think part that get you in trouble. Treat yourself to a banana and find a tree to spend the night in ok sunshine.
Oh and watch the video again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD5CEBQC-TY

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01-30-2007 12:56 PM  11 years agoPost 42
Hawk4flyer

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Pitting one faction against the other is just another form of smoke and mirrors. While the left is arguing with the right, the people in power are doing whatever they damn well want.

"I'm right!!!!!" "No! I'm right!!!!!!!!"

The people in power are NOT the politicians. Corporations tell the Government what to do.

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01-30-2007 03:34 PM  11 years agoPost 43
drdot

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fwiw..

The banana was great!I really thank you for proving my point better than I ever could!
As far as ethics go, they're as amorphous as anything else human, but teaching them is still not possible..If humans have a soul, it is manifested only in an innate urge to do the right thing....

Bill Cutter.

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01-30-2007 09:36 PM  11 years agoPost 44
Bart B

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I think you will like this-especially last item.

>1st Released - Agenda for the Democratic National Convention for 2008:
>
>7:00 P.M. Opening flag burning.
>7:15 P.M. Pledge of allegiance to U.N.
>7:30 P.M. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>7:30 till 8:00 P.M. Nonreligious prayer and worship. Jessie Jackson
>and Al Sharpton.
>8:00 P.M. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
>8:05 P.M. Ceremonial tree hugging.
>8:15- 8:30 P.M. Gay Wedding - Barney Frank, presiding.
>8:30 P.M . Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
>8:35 P.M. Free Saddam Rally. Cindy Sheehan & Susan Sarandon.
>9:00 P.M. Keynote speech. The proper etiquette for surrender - French
>President Jacques Chirac
>9:15 P.M. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
>9:20 P.M. Collection to benefit Osama Bin Laden kidney transplant fund.
>9:30 P.M. Unveiling of plan to free freedom fighters from Guantanamo Bay
>- Sean Penn.
>9:40 P.M. Why I hate the Military - a short talk by William Jefferson
>Clinton.
>9:45 P.M. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
>9:50 P.M. Dan Rather presented Truth in Broadcasting award by Michael
>Moore.
>9:55 P.M. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
>10:00 P.M. How George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld brought down the World Trade Center Towers - Howard Dean.

>10:30 P.M. Nomination of Hillary Rodham Clinton by Mahmud Ahmadinejad.
>11:00 P.M. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
>11:05 P.M. Al Gore reinvents the Internet.
>11:15 P.M. Our Troops are War Criminals - John Kerry.
>11:30 P.M. Coronation Of Mrs. Rodham Clinton.
>12:00 A.M. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
>12:05 A.M. Bill asks Ted,and Sealerman to drive Hillary home.

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01-30-2007 09:51 PM  11 years agoPost 45
Sealerman

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LOL BartB you are so pathedic.
This is what I mean about the Conservative ideology being DEAD. The only thing BartB and Drdot can post in support of the Conservative agenda are pathedic lies they make up about the Dems.
Hey Bartb and Drdot why don't you get Laura Bush to drive you to Cheney's hunting lodge, he'll meet you there at his bar.
This web page is good reading,
http://www.bartcop.com/pickles.htm

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01-30-2007 10:20 PM  11 years agoPost 46
Bart B

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This is what I mean about the Conservative ideology being DEAD.
It's just going through a transformation.
THE TRANSFORMATION IS ALMOST COMPLETE!

.

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01-30-2007 10:27 PM  11 years agoPost 47
Mick64

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LOL,
I get it Bart, that picture somes it up, they are actually Brother and Sister, i see the resemblence

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01-30-2007 10:39 PM  11 years agoPost 48
sharam

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When I became a citizen of the United States of America many years ago, I raised my right hand and swore/promised that I would uphold the Constitution of the United States.

For me much of this is not a right vs. left issue. I consider myself a Fiscal Republican (low taxation, smaller governemnt, less governmental involvement) and a Social Democrat (individual freedoms and rights). I voted for Bush in 2000 and against him in 2004.

For me, the most important thing is to maintain the very delicate balance that exists between the three branches of our government (some say four including the free press), and to ensure that the branches exist in a co-equal manner.

We are all poorly served if we allow a disruption of this balance. We are all poorly served if we allow the lynch mob mentality to take over.

I write my Congressman/woman and my Senators about various issues. I don't always take the party line. I applaud Bush's taxation policy but I strongly disagree with his administration's grab for Executive Power since I see it as a danger to our Constitution.

So, please stop looking at this from a "left" vs. "right" viewpoint. Our individual rights, IMHO, are the cornerstones of our society.

I am reminded of the poem atributed to Martin Niemöller from Germany. (circa 1946)
**
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

**
Protect your rights or lose them.

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01-30-2007 11:02 PM  11 years agoPost 49
drdot

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fwiw..

As I have said, I am a Pragmatist...I'm neither Left, nor Right in the conventional political sense...The balance is exactly what I'm NOT seeing, from either side..

Bill Cutter.

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01-30-2007 11:59 PM  11 years agoPost 50
TrexRookie

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As I have said, I am a Pragmatist...I'm neither Left, nor Right in the conventional political sense...The balance is exactly what I'm NOT seeing, from either side..
uhh....

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01-31-2007 12:24 AM  11 years agoPost 51
Sealerman

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The problem with the Neo-Cons is they don't how to compromise. So to them a 51% to 49% election means they have the power and the other 49% can go to hell.
Drdot said,
As I have said, I am a Pragmatist...I'm neither Left, nor Right in the conventional political sense
I agree Drdot you're not left or right you're just wrong.

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01-31-2007 01:08 AM  11 years agoPost 52
debogus

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Sealer and your yet another neo con ism

That from you ?

BAWHAA HAA Ha HA

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01-31-2007 01:30 AM  11 years agoPost 53
mbkite

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Shram you voted for him and then voted against him..

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01-31-2007 01:32 AM  11 years agoPost 54
debogus

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Oh and because I read your words of wisdom a few pages back
San Fran Rookie
Not all terrorist are musilims,because of mc vieh or something like that.
Well lets see didnt he ,a gulf war vet go postal due to our government actions in waco ?

Dont matter why what matters is on many occations you have posted this
not all terorist are musilms because of mcvieh/oklahoma bs.

What are you guys are on feeding frenze cause of the big vietnam style "sheeple" gathering this weekend ?

Your still wrong but hey another vietnam is your right.

"compromise" Yeah like the left does.

IMO
If Iranians are in iraq doing any thing bad ,they should be held in Guantamimo , welcome to war
But they have rights Wa Wa wa

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01-31-2007 04:35 AM  11 years agoPost 55
3D WASP

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habeus corpus is obviously a very very fine line to walk. I definatly support it, however terrorists see it as a weakness and do everything they can to exploit it. So should it be removed in entirety? Hell no. Should something be done to prevent terrorists from exploiting it? Hell yes! What do we do then? Good question, their are bad implications on either side of the very very fine line. I do however believe that this is HUGELY being blown out of porportion by the secular progressive left. They make it seem like everyone who is arrested now won't know why and will be held indefinatly. NOT TRUE AT ALL. If you steer clear of terrorism you won't have anything to worry about. Kinda like that whole overblown wire tapping deal, if you don't have any connections with terrorists, then you've got nothing to be afraid of. This is a WAR whether we all want to admit it, believe it, or realize it, or not. I think its about time we start treating it like one.
IMO
If Iranians are in iraq doing any thing bad ,they should be held in Guantamimo , welcome to war
But they have rights Wa Wa wa
Exactly

Timing is everything

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01-31-2007 10:48 AM  11 years agoPost 56
TrexRookie

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Not all terrorist are musilims,because of mc vieh or something like that.
Well lets see didnt he ,a gulf war vet go postal due to our government actions in waco ?
regardless of the reason, he was STILL A TERRORIST... so wake up, stop pinning "terrorism" on Muslims, and realize that it's not a problem that resides in only the Muslim community.
I definatly support it, however terrorists see it as a weakness and do everything they can to exploit it. So should it be removed in entirety? Hell no.
Yea, our current administration also sees it as a weakness that they can exploit. lose/lose situation, unfortunately.

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01-31-2007 01:14 PM  11 years agoPost 57
Sealerman

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3D said
habeus corpus is obviously a very very fine line to walk. I definatly support it,
What is so fine a line about if you are accused of anything you get charged with a crime and have a trail?
however terrorists see it as a weakness and do everything they can to exploit it.
Who has not tried to exploit it, thats what Lawyers are for.
I do however believe that this is HUGELY being blown out of porportion by the secular progressive left.
You're a Bush supporter so I'm no supprised. As far as only the "secular progressive left" who ever they are, being the only ones who care about a right to trial, I doubt that. If thats true this proves that the media is not Liberal because if they were this would be "over blown" as say. Arlin Specter is not a secular progressive.
They make it seem like everyone who is arrested now won't know why and will be held indefinatly. NOT TRUE AT ALL. If you steer clear of terrorism you won't have anything to worry about. Kinda like that whole overblown wire tapping deal, if you don't have any connections with terrorists, then you've got nothing to be afraid of.
This is where you show us how simplistic your thinking is 3D. If you have no right to a trial or any judicial review of your arrest than how can anyone be sure that you are truely a terrorist and guilty of what they think you did.
It's this simple if anyone can be accused of being a "Terrorist" and arrested put in a cell and never be heard from again then none of us are safe from that possiblity, this administration has proven itself incompetente over and over again thats why they hate oversite.
welcome to war
Who are you talking too 3D, what % of the U.S. population are sacrificing for your war. I guess you wants use all to give up the rights that so many have dead for. To me that sounds like cutting and running and then the terrorists really will have won.
If Iranians are in iraq doing any thing bad ,they should be held in Guantamimo
Who said they should not be?

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01-31-2007 01:34 PM  11 years agoPost 58
Sealerman

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I have replaced the word TERRORISTS with the word JEWS to show how 3d's post would have looked if this was Germany in the early to mid 1930's

habeus corpus is obviously a very very fine line to walk. I definatly support it, however JEWS see it as a weakness and do everything they can to exploit it. So should it be removed in entirety? Hell no. Should something be done to prevent JEWS from exploiting it? Hell yes! What do we do then? Good question, their are bad implications on either side of the very very fine line. I do however believe that this is HUGELY being blown out of porportion by the COMMUNISTS. They make it seem like everyone who is arrested now won't know why and will be held indefinatly. NOT TRUE AT ALL. If you steer clear of JEWS you won't have anything to worry about. Kinda like that whole overblown wire tapping deal, if you don't have any connections with JEWS, then you've got nothing to be afraid of. This is a WAR whether we all want to admit it, believe it, or realize it, or not. I think its about time we start treating it like one.

I know 3D does not hate jews, I'm just showing how people can use fear of the OTHERS to get the weak minded to give up things they never would have given up without that fear.

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01-31-2007 02:08 PM  11 years agoPost 59
debogus

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I rest my point san fran ,not just the Muslims .again
In this conflict at this point in time sorry to open your eyes but
they are in the number one position

Oh besides our actions according to the left.
Bush
mcvieh
me
then the Muslims ,but they wouldn't be on the list only because we don't understand
shareeah
probably according to you folks

And they are killing each other to make me feel bad

not working yet

cause
I'm a infidel

Perhaps another chorus of coom bi ya

yea yea what ever

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01-31-2007 04:14 PM  11 years agoPost 60
Stet

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So you are saying that 911 was actually a jewish conspiracy then.

Liberal twisting at it's best

keepin' it real

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