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01-24-2007 02:42 AM  12 years ago
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Walleye

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Why call it Pantera ???
Im doing some searching to see what I can find, and why this model maybe named Pantera... John, wait a couple days before telling us but thought it would be interesting to post some of the findings...

Of course not afer the rock group...

Did find this in military: PANTERA Precision Attack Navigation and Targeting with Extended Range Acquisition

A very expensive De Tomaso auto..

Others ??
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01-24-2007 02:55 AM  12 years ago
Herc

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I think it goes back to the Tiger being named after, well, a Tiger and Pantera is named after the Panther.

I think this may have been touched on before back when the Pantera canopy design contest was on.

My guess anyway.

Cheers, Shayne
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01-24-2007 03:05 AM  12 years ago
Walleye

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That is sooo not what I was wwanting to hear... come on... lets re-write history.... there has to be a better meaning....

ok ok maybe named after a record by "Pantera" - "Vulgar Display of Power"... never even listened to that band but we can do better than Panther :-)

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01-24-2007 03:20 AM  12 years ago
Herc

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LOL...yeah, maybe in your FANTASY John was attacked by a Panther in Panama when he was a small boy. And, wanting to commemorate that moment, and also call it something mysterious, he came up with the name Pantera.

Cheers, Shayne
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01-24-2007 03:35 AM  12 years ago
Walleye

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See THATS what Im talkng about....
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01-24-2007 04:03 AM  12 years ago
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Cold weather leads to cabin fever! Notice that only billm hasn't responded. I theorize it's because he's busy stamping holes in the snow to go fly. Brrrr!

Do I tell why now? Naw, we'll let this sleeping dog lay a while longer to build the tiny bit of inevitable suspense

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01-24-2007 04:07 AM  12 years ago
Herc

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LOL...I think Bill is knee deep in helicopters right now in his "Man Land".

I'm in the process of finishing the renovations on my "Man Land" and anticipating the coldest month of the year by ordering new heli kits and scale stuff.

The days ARE getting longer though.

Cheers, Shayne

Hey Walleye, do you ice fish in Minnetonka? I just looked it up on the map and it looks like a good area.
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01-24-2007 04:43 AM  12 years ago
Walleye

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Mostly open water but indeed I am less than 10 minutes from hooking up boat to on the water in a good spot... there are several better ice lakes locally but the ice has been pretty screwy this year. Just now getting 4 wheelers and sleds on ince when normally some are driving suburbans out by now. You ever make it down Ill take you on Tonka, great lake in spring and fall.

Suspense indeed !!!!
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01-24-2007 09:07 PM  12 years ago
Hillstreet

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Pantera?
Lockheed Martin's Pantera is the export version of the Sniper XR targeting pod for tactical bombers. Maybe?

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01-24-2007 11:45 PM  12 years ago
tim tompkins

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Sunbeam made the Tiger, a british sports car that is pretty rare today. It had a Ford 260 V8 first then a 289. The Pantera was built by De Tomaso after the Mangusta. They too had small block Ford V8's. Maybe John Is a car GUY? TimT
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01-25-2007 12:17 AM  12 years ago
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Not many people remember the Sunbeam Tiger Tim, you're dating yourself. I had one (with a 289) and liked it a lot because it went like stink, and though its handling wasn't exactly good, it was great fun.

Also amongst the cars I've owned was a DeTomaso Pantera, so you're on the right track, i.e. the fact is I am a car guy. The Pantera also went like stink - largely due to the 351 Cleveland motive force. It had a ZF transaxle and was reliable (other than being prone to overheating the cockpit). That's because the radiator lines were routed out to the front of the car. In addition, being a mid-engine car, the pulleys were right under your elbow (covered by a thin fiberglass molding) and as a result you could feel the power since my upper arm rested against that cover when my hand rested on the shifter! That was one of the better looking cars I've had. It did a lot of things right, except sell to Ford's expectations. Folks, Dr. Tim gets the gold star for nailing it!

When I left Panama in 1999 to move back stateside, I sold all my toys. My old Ferrari GT went, my old Maserati GT went, my nifty Suzuki DR350 dirt bike went, my old MotoGuzzi 750SS went, and my Piper PA-17 Vagabond went. Everything which wasn't nailed down was sold because an international move isn't one to be taken lightly. We had more than the 18,000 pounds alloted - sob! Fortunately, they all went to good homes. Now I'm slowly accumulating toys again. Folks, if it has a motor in it (yes, yes, an engine), I love it.

What am I up to care-wise now? Check it out! http://www.hobbytrading.com/modelsport/gto

Thanks for stirring up the memories Tim.

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01-25-2007 12:31 AM  12 years ago
ESWLFSE

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So when is the Mangusta 90 coming out???
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01-25-2007 01:56 AM  12 years ago
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I know exactly what a Sunbeam Tiger is. When I lived in Wales, I had a buddy that owned one. Very cool. Me? I owned a Sunbeam Rapier. Great car until "another" ex-buddy drove it into a hedgerow. Ex-buddy because he offered nothing to compensate me for the f'ed up Rapier after I loned it to him in good faith.

I owned a Triumph 1500 saloon after that, then a Mini, then a Morris Traveller, then an Austin 1800 w/hydrolastic suspension, then finally a '69 Ford Escort. I had my fill of Lucas electrics.

* The Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."
* Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit.
* Lucas - Inventor of the first intermittent wiper.
* Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.
* The three position Lucas switch - Dim, Flicker and Off.
* The Original Anti-Theft Device - Lucas Electrics.
* Lucas vacuum cleaners. The only product they offered which did not suck.
* Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? A: Lucas refrigerators

All kidding aside - I do love the culture over there.

--Scott
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01-25-2007 02:00 AM  12 years ago
Herc

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* The Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."
* Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit.
* Lucas - Inventor of the first intermittent wiper.
* Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.
* The three position Lucas switch - Dim, Flicker and Off.
* The Original Anti-Theft Device - Lucas Electrics.
* Lucas vacuum cleaners. The only product they offered which did not suck.
* Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? A: Lucas refrigerators
ROFLMAO

Shayne
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01-26-2007 12:57 PM  12 years ago
Juice_oo7

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Hey John will you give me a ride in that thing after I buy a Pantera
That car is very nice, I like it more with the numbers on it, adds a touch of uniqueness.
AJ
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01-26-2007 02:32 PM  12 years ago
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Right now she's gutted as I complete the re-wire job. Next, the gut goes back in, and finally she's carted off to the header show to have the exhaust fabricated. After that, sure, you're welcome to a ride. Gotta hang on to your socks though, she's quick!
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01-26-2007 02:57 PM  12 years ago
Herc

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John, where do you find the time??

I guess we always make time for the things we love right?

Cheers, Shayne
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01-27-2007 02:51 AM  12 years ago
billm

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The answer is very simple.
JB had a bunch of ideas stuck to the wall.
When he threw the dart his wrist went wamm!
The dart flew half way across the living room like a lam rappy doing an auto. Lynn was running for cover behind the wet bar as the dart was on it's own course of flight. As the dart flutered though the air, the tail speed quit in the fly over zone and crashed on the coffee table right on top of his National Geographic mag that was open to the "wild life" section. The Pantera name was born!
And now you know the rest of the story!
Tiger is happy. Pantera 1 is ready for another test hop. Pantera 2 is going to have it's first test hop this weekend. LHS chopper almost done. I almost have the pod and boom chopper modified for it's test hop before the scale fuse gets installed.
The hole in the snow is stomped down and ready for a weekend of testing and flying.
My name is Billm. Cough, and I'm a Heli Holic
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01-27-2007 03:02 AM  12 years ago
Herc

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^^^ LOL....Walleye will like that!

I think JB should have called the Tiger and Pantera "The Simplest Helis in the World to Build" I and II.

I'm ready to also fly tomorrow - Tiger and Hughes mind you. No Pantera yet.

Patiently, yeah right, working on the Raven - getting ready to find a shovel and go bury this overly complex piece of engineering madness. I'm over reacting of course

Cheers, Shayne

Supposed to be sunny and warm tomorrow....-15
Tiger & Pantera 50s
BRC Intrepid Gas
Predator Gas SE
Hirobo SST Eagle 2 98
Evo 50s
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01-30-2007 04:04 AM  12 years ago
Walleye

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Yea I used to live in Kansas, sorry I didnt fly helis there... somehow the upper 40's dont look so bad when its 7 for a high here and -7 for a low this weekend :-)

Can relate with the snow, but now with a heli I built... well gee I cant hardly risk it yet !!!! Going to at least wait until its above freezing esp with new rig and new engine... actually probably doesnt matter... but like to increase chacne of favorable first flight as much as possible... and really... much below upper twenties and it aint much fun...
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