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11-27-2006 12:10 AM  11 years agoPost 1
fr_lan

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Quito - Ecuador

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Hi I'm panning to buy my first heli (going for electric at first), and I want to know your opinion. I had 4 years rccar expirience and 1 ,5 rc plane experience.
I know you would tell me to get simulator time and all that stuff, but want the real thing.
Ok the thing is down here (in ecuador) i can't get all the trademarks you have. My local hobby shop is bringing e-flite products and they are begining to bring the t-rex. By now i'm goingo toward the Blade Cp PRo, the thing is: a) much cheaper, b) RTF c) from my plane just have a 4 channel radio.
Think goingo to learn using Radds method.
What is your opinion?

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11-27-2006 12:35 AM  11 years agoPost 2
COOKIEULT70

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CAMERON PARK, CA

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What ever you do DON'T buy the CP. Go for the Trex. I have both and the CP is a waste of time compared to the Trex. Trex is WAY more stable (for the beginner) and has WAY more potential(for when you get better).

I have 4 helis now. I started out with the CP Pro(mistake), then bought a HDX300(not finished yet), bought a Century Hawk Pro(WAY easier to fly than my other 3 helis), then bought a Trex 450SA. The Trex flies almost as good as the Hawk. For what I waisted on the CP Pro I could have bought 4 battery packs for the Trex. 4 or more packs for a Trex makes for very little down time at the flying field.

GAHH!!! Someone call 911!! My wallet is bleading heli parts!!

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11-27-2006 05:21 AM  11 years agoPost 3
Two Left Thumbs

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Houston, Texas - USA

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Sure you won't consider a sim? You may be one of the rare gifted heli pilots, but if not, you will crash a bunch of times teaching yourself to fly. That money could be put towards a sim.

CP vs. T-Rex, that is a tough call. They are not really equivalent, in size, price, or performance. Since you are involved in R/C for many years, you will probably stick with helis, as they are addicting I see so many people start with a CP and then move to a T-Rex, seems you might as well start on the T-Rex. It is not harder to fly, it is easier in fact, but it cost 3-4x more than the CP Pro.

Parts availability is a big factor too. If you can only find Eflight parts locally, then I'd probably stick with that. If you can get T-Rex parts, then T-Rex all the way!

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11-27-2006 06:41 AM  11 years agoPost 4
702nitro

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Seriously get a simulator
Blade CP Pro = Ford Pinto, Geo Metro, Ford Tempo

I bought a CP Pro about a 2 months ago on an impulse, and to give you a quick review --Its way over rated. You pay $250 for the damm thing, you get it up in the air and it flys okay an all, but the lightest breeze is going to blow it away like a feather, and as far as skill progression is concerned you won't get very far. For me the CP Pro is nice for living room, or relaxed driveway flying.

Mind you I started off with a Raptor30. I recently got the Trex 450SA and I gotta tell you that this thing is stable as a Raptor and has all the power N capabilities.

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11-28-2006 01:20 AM  11 years agoPost 5
fr_lan

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Quito - Ecuador

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So you all agree in, go for the trex ? what is the lowest price I can get one? Maybe you have some other ideas for a noob?

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11-28-2006 01:59 AM  11 years agoPost 6
COOKIEULT70

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Get the SA or the S model if you can find it.

GAHH!!! Someone call 911!! My wallet is bleading heli parts!!

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11-28-2006 03:39 AM  11 years agoPost 7
Dood

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Wescanson

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what is the lowest price I can get one?
A quick search on eBay should land you an RTF Trex (maybe a little set up needed).
There are so many guys out there who attempted to fly an RC heli and gave up right away. Some have never been flown at all.
I have seen them go (set up with a radio) for under $400.

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11-28-2006 04:13 AM  11 years agoPost 8
702nitro

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Las Vegas, NV

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I got my Trex450SA combo(kit,3550KV,35G ESC,RCE-500 gyro) for $319.00 with shipping.I'm not really sure if the Trex450S came out yet, but if my memory serves me correctly I think they have a Combo thats going to go about $270(ballpark figure).

Plus if you don't have these yet, you'll need to get

Servos= HS-65hb on cyclic, and a fast servo for tail control
Gyro - Futaba GY401 *recommended
11.1 3s Lipo battery pack
6 Channel Radio with Rx *minimum
Lipo Charger,balancer

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11-28-2006 04:20 AM  11 years agoPost 9
Dood

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Wescanson

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HS-65hb
Someone actually recommended HiTec Servos, huh?
Yup.Thats a first.

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11-28-2006 04:34 AM  11 years agoPost 10
alanhsu

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Vancouver, Canada

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No matter what you get, you'll crash for sure. So go for the most crash resistant/cheapest to fix thing you can get. DO NOT go for performance at this point.

If you don't want to start on a sim, go for a 4ch heli, much cheaper to fly. You can learn all the way to stall turns on it. Best thing about 4ch helis like hummingbird or dragonfly is that they don't break.

On a light crash, you'll break 3-5 parts on a T-rex, but only maybe 1 little crack somewhere on your hummingbird.
On a hard crash, you'll break 1/3 of parts on a T-rex, but only 3-5 parts on a hummingbird.

I myself learned how to hover with a hummingbird in my living room, no sim whatsoever. I then learned all the way to stall turns in my backyard before I jumped to a T-rex. Now I stick to the sim before I fly the t-rex since it's getting very expensive to crash now.

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11-28-2006 09:53 AM  11 years agoPost 11
andyho77

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Malaysia

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how about art-tech falcon 3d?any1 heard about this brand b4?hows the performance?im thinking to get my 1st heli as well n was look into this brand cause the price is way cheaper compared to t-rex 450..

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11-29-2006 05:34 AM  11 years agoPost 12
bbking9

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Plano, TX

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I'm with Cookie,

I have a Blade CP (not the Pro) - and it goes through tail motors once a week at $10 a shot.

Put your $ towards a Trex 450SA - replacement parts are cheaper than Blade CP pro beleive it or not.

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11-29-2006 11:58 AM  11 years agoPost 13
stickyfox

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Rochester, NY - US

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Now, I used to be the "BCP tail motors are crap" camp's leading voice on RR.. but I think one a week is hitting it pretty hard. One a month maybe? They also have about a 30% chance of being destroyed in a crash, but I've found that lately I get decent amounts of use out of them.

I also have to respectfully disagree with 702 regarding the BCP in wind. I fly mine regularly in 15+mph winds. I've even flown it in the low 20's a couple of times. I like to hover it downwind like it's a kite. It takes some practice to get the hang of it but it's perfectly controllable in windy conditions.

I also disagree with Cookie about the BCP being a waste of time. If you take a BCP and put the cost of a radio system, brushless motors and ESC's, gyro, and pro servos into it, you will have an entirely different helicopter. The difference is that with the BCP you have the option of doing so, and with the trex, you start with a bare airframe.

I will agree that it's not the best heli to learn on. I spent my share on repair parts when I was learning.

You may find (as I did) that your RC plane experience helps you in forward flight. It will do nothing for your hovering, unfortunately, but you will find it easier to overcome one of the major crash-causing hurdles that takes some people hours of simulator time to get past.

-fox

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12-03-2006 07:57 PM  11 years agoPost 14
Tropheus

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USA

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I have to agree here. I too have a blade cp pro and it is not at all a bad platform for the beginner. Believe you me, you will crash it and putting it back together will teach you the ins and outs of the helicopter and how things work. Better you get, less you crash and the happier your wallet will be until the inevitable upgrade that is.

Once you hover it (it will take time, it's a handful) you will be proud of your acclomplishment and want to tell the world. It is not rated for wind and all the components are ok, not great but ok. For 219.00 (standard CP) you will have everything you need to get into the hobby. You just have to keep forging ahead crash after crash until the miraculous hover comes along. Then once you buy spare batts and can direct and fly it above you, you can opt to upgrade the chopper with the much available aftermarket parts or graduate to something bigger in size. But as for a living room warrior and light weather days, the CP works well and is a lot of fun. Most people bash it out of frustration they had with trying to learn its flight capabilities. You master the CP, you master all others. The skills transfer...Just my .02 oh yeah Hi all, I have been lurking in the background for a couple months. GREAT FORUM...

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12-05-2006 02:07 AM  11 years agoPost 15
AWW618

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Highlands Ranch CO

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Every one has a Trex go MX 450 (but use the tail slider off a Trex 450 the MX binds up alot). My MX goes head to head with Trex and holds its own.

pick it up and shake it off...she'll fly again

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