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11-25-2006 04:49 AM  11 years agoPost 21
Fred I

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I think as far as HELI radio is concern, JR is better.
Since this is a HELI forum, people deciding on which radio is better should consider why the top HELI pilots of the world choose JR instead of FUTABA. I would think that they could be sponsored by FUTABA if they wanted to, but they chose JRs. Sure the 14MZ is not as nice as the JR10X, but it also cost more than twice as the JR. The only reason people buy the 14MZ is because it's the best money can buy right now. For those of us who MUST have the MOST EXPENSIVE ELECTRONICS - then the 14MZ is for them. Sure, it can do both pos/neg shifts and it can do heli/planes/glider etc, but serious HELI pilots shouldn't care if their tx can do gliders or not.
BTW, JR 10x is still made in Japan and the 14mz is made in Taiwan, so lets not argue about craftsmanship.

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11-25-2006 05:01 AM  11 years agoPost 22
blade3d

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I use JR Radio and futaba servos but recently finding out that Airtronics servos have less slop than Futab,,,Futaba Radio will make you pull your hair out, Futaba is ,,,,COMPLICATED,,,,,

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11-25-2006 05:27 AM  11 years agoPost 23
Eury

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but serious HELI pilots shouldn't care if their tx can do gliders or not.
Ahhh, so heli pilots who also fly planes aren't serious about it. Sounds like you're justifying your limited, antiquated radio system by insulting those whose equipment is superior to your own.

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11-25-2006 06:15 AM  11 years agoPost 24
GimbalFan (RIP)

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^^^ Good one, Nick.

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11-25-2006 06:33 AM  11 years agoPost 25
Ringo Ranger

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better stop this kind futaba and jr wars. that's a lot of non sense!

just enjoy your hobby.

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11-25-2006 07:07 AM  11 years agoPost 26
OICU812

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These posts always call for some good pics, that always gets blood pumpin! LOL

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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11-25-2006 07:11 AM  11 years agoPost 27
Ringo Ranger

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I'm for Futaba that's the difference!

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11-25-2006 08:15 AM  11 years agoPost 28
jbiter

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I'm still looking for a radio that has that red reset button like the G3 controller. That's the best feature ever!

Until then I'll stick with my Futaba

Jeff

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11-25-2006 10:48 AM  11 years agoPost 29
DS 8717

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If you fly JR you dont a reset button.DOUG

YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE..IF YOU LIVE IT RIGHT THATS ALL YOU NEED

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11-25-2006 03:04 PM  11 years agoPost 30
Eury

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Thanks, GF, it kinda takes the sting out of an insult like that when 5 posts above I say that they are exactly the same.

Nick Crego

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11-25-2006 07:02 PM  11 years agoPost 31
perfesser zero

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Dublin, VA., USA

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jbiter...
Hey that reset button is called the "OFF" switch Afterwards you "Start all over!"

Later...

Scott!

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Hawk Sport - OS 37SZ-H
Raptor 30 - OS 37SZ-H
JR 10X/R950S

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11-25-2006 11:46 PM  11 years agoPost 32
turboomni

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Airtronics RD8000 or especially the Stylus. Stylus is as fast as the Futaba 12/14z long before Futaba caught up. Cheaper too. It don't look nearly as OOOOOHH MAAAN as the Futabs and the JRs .
Many good radios ,but I have heard more than once that the Futaba 9C is about the slowest radio out there.

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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11-26-2006 12:05 AM  11 years agoPost 33
turboomni

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Why don't you ask what's better, Chevy or Ford?
Yup Don't forget Chrysler!!!

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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11-26-2006 12:57 AM  11 years agoPost 34
OICU812

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Many good radios ,but I have heard more than once that the Futaba 9C is about the slowest radio out there.
Any proof to that statment?

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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11-26-2006 01:04 AM  11 years agoPost 35
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Yup. John Kos (JKos), an avionics engineer on the V-22 Osprey program, did bench tests on the 9C and several other tx's and published his results in this thread. Having switched from a Futaba 7C to a Stylus I can verify that even an average pilot can feel a distinct difference in stick response between the two.

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11-26-2006 01:09 AM  11 years agoPost 36
OICU812

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interesting I remember that thread now. I wonder though as I have not flown with a Stylus or a 14mz, only a 9C and in flight it does not seem slow or sluggish etc, is there really that much difference "Hands on and in flight" persay? I mean the human mind and reaction time is only so fast as well, so I am curious. I like the idea for example of the dx7 and all that but I do not like the user interface etc and the look and the feel of it, mind you it may be significantly better feel wise than the dx6 was...

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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11-26-2006 01:23 AM  11 years agoPost 37
Yug

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I love the 9C but is so bloody slow and the latency between channel 2 and 6 is huge compared to the Stylus or MZ. As Gimbal said, check out JKoss findings. Although slow, I'm comfortable with the 9C because I'm used to it. I expect that if I were to use a faster Tx, then I'd have to change my timing considerably but so what. The 9C has way too many features than I require and you just don't need that much for honest 3D flying. I've never been interested in any JR stuff except the 8700G servo. The DX7 does intrest me greatly.

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11-26-2006 01:25 AM  11 years agoPost 38
GimbalFan (RIP)

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is there really that much difference "Hands on and in flight" persay? ... it may be significantly better feel wise than the dx6 was...
The DX7 should be at least equal to the speed of the Stylus. Unlike the DX6 it'll translate stick movements more directly, thus the improvement.

I noticed a difference immediately, and the best description I can give is that it's as though I'd installed much faster servos, and I'm already using 94758's.
Although slow, I'm comfortable with the 9C because I'm used to it.
Being the tech-savvy music man that he is, I'm sure Yug will confirm this comparison: In the early days of electronic keyboards and MIDI, many of the instruments had a lag between when you hit a key and got a sound. A skilled musician could adjust his playing, 'leading' with his fingers enough so that the notes came out timed right. Wasn't terribly hard, but it did require a mental adjustment that distracted just a bit from the enjoyment of 'playing the music'.

Same thing w/RC. The lag on slow tx's can be adjusted for between the ears, quite successfully in fact, but avoiding the need for it altogether is even better.

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11-26-2006 01:28 AM  11 years agoPost 39
Yug

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94758s will readily show up any latency issues.

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11-26-2006 01:31 AM  11 years agoPost 40
OICU812

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Hmm interesting, thanks fellas. I may try one of those radios out as they are a pretty decent price.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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