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11-23-2006 04:48 PM  11 years agoPost 1
woppini

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I bet its doubtful since its more or less based on the fury.. but any first year reliability issues? Toying with the notion of either the spectra or bergen

my wifes cooking is so bad, the flies are sewing the holes in the screen door

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11-23-2006 10:16 PM  11 years agoPost 2
Toadster25

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I think as long as you build it just like the instructions say including using a G231 stock or modified, you wont have any problems with it.
I have had mine over a year now including 4 flights today without any mecanical failures. I have had a couple servo failures though.

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11-23-2006 10:23 PM  11 years agoPost 3
woppini

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Thanks for the feedback

my wifes cooking is so bad, the flies are sewing the holes in the screen door

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11-23-2006 11:21 PM  11 years agoPost 4
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You might want to send back the open tail kit and put a Zenoah G23 in for a motor. It has moree power and no vibrations. The open tail will be replaced free of charge if you send it back to MAH in Florida. The plastic bevels are not strong enough for the gasser only the Nitros.

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11-24-2006 01:38 AM  11 years agoPost 5
Peterr

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The perceived problem with the origional open box was the output shaft with the hole through it for the roll pin ;a few shafts snapped at the hole ;; The current shaft , with dimples, and set screws in the gear , is more than good enough .. I have it on a Spectra G , a Stratus and an Extreme...

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11-24-2006 03:54 AM  11 years agoPost 6
Toadster25

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I was assuming you were buying a new Spectra G and if that were true as far as I know it should come with the metal closed tail gearbox. That is what mine came with when I bought it new. I think that the first time they tried to fix the shaft breaking with dimples insted of a whole clear though the shaft, it didn't work. I think they still broke but they may have fixed the problem with a harder or softer shaft? I know because I ordered my Spectra G around March 2005 and didn't get it until September (six months later) and the reason it took so long was because of the tailshaft breaking problem. After trying different shafts and such they finally decieded to give up on the open and ship the Spectra's with the closed tail case. I would stick with the G231 too. I started with a modified G26 and it was prety bad as far as vibration and now I have been using a Stock G231 and seem prety good to me. I may try having my G26 re-done by the new guy at Hanson and try it again someday.

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11-24-2006 04:17 AM  11 years agoPost 7
rbort

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So far so good with mine :)
Well like Toadster I ordered mine in the Spring last year and got it in September. I put it together as the manual stated with the closed tail box and got it flying on 9/22/05. Since then I have logged 195 flights with mine. The first 12 flights were with a pre Al Hanson G26 with a heavier piston and on the 12th flight a link popped off in a hover and I crashed. Luckily I was 2 feet off the ground so the damage was minor (just blades and main shaft).

I pulled out the G26 and put in a G231 as I wanted to fly it and for it to be reliable. Flew it from flight #12 until #82. I had a vibration problem and at the MHA ff I tracked that down to a bad delrin ball that was misaligning the engine. Tim and I fixed that and I went to fly it again and it was much better though one of my servos failed unfortunately and I ended up crashing it on the tail (more damage) as when I added collective to land it tipped back. Anyway, I attributed that to the vibration caused by the bad delrin ball since the beginning and after repairing the heli replaced the servos to be on the safe side.

Around that time the new Hanson came out with a lightened piston for the G26. I got mine reworked to the lighter version and put the G26 back into my heli. Been flying it ever since and now I have over 100 flights on the G26 with no issues.

All in all its a pleasure to fly this machine, its super responsive, and the performance is very similar to a 90 size nitro machine. The $$$s saved from flying a gasser versus a thirsty nitro are well worth it and make for extra money to be used on repairs or upgrades where otherwise that money would have been spent just to get into the air on a day to day basis.

You will find (if you try both) that there is a considerable amount of power difference between a G231 and a G26. Where in the case of a G231 you have to manage your collective more to avoid a bog, with a G26 you can push harder and it doesn't bog as easily. Also full power climbout is much faster with a G26.

I like the extra power and I think that Al at Hansons has made that possible for me. He claims that his G26 is just as smooth as the G231 and my Spectra seems to agree. I can say that no parts have fallen off the bird in flight so besides the initial problems with the delrin ball out of alignment and the older G26 I think I am golden.

In my opinion if you want the best performing gasser out there, go with the Spectra.

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4210 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3288 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1570 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 402 flts

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11-26-2006 12:20 PM  11 years agoPost 8
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How much of a difference is there?
[quote]You will find (if you try both) that there is a considerable amount of power difference between a G231 and a G26. Where in the case of a G231 you have to manage your collective more to avoid a bog, with a G26 you can push harder and it doesn't bog as easily. Also full power climbout is much faster with a G26.

I was told to go with the G231PUH motor for reliabilty reasons and it would not be under powered. Is the Hanson motor a solid and reliable motor to buy? How much is a G26 Hanson motor and should I go that route?

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11-26-2006 02:55 PM  11 years agoPost 9
rbort

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Depends on that you do
If you are a casual everyday flyer you probably won't see much difference. If you are a hotdog 3D pilot you can feel the difference. If I had to quantify it I think if I remember right the G231 can turn the rotors at max pitch anywhere from 1680 to 1730 rpms max when broken in. A G26 can turn anywhere from 1700 to 1830 max when broken in. Of course its all dependant on blades/ muffler and such, this is with my machine with the same equipment.

Al makes very smooth G26's so if you want the most power that is the way to go. They also burn more fuel than a G231 of course so like I said before if you are not into 3D nobody is going to tell the difference just taking off, hovering and flying around casually.

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4210 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3288 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1570 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 402 flts

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11-26-2006 09:57 PM  11 years agoPost 10
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rbort,
Do you remember my friend Ron with the 47G? He's from Southwick, Mass. He told me to say hi to you. He met you at a fun fly this year I guess. I will tell Ron about the G26 from Al. Do you have his contact info for Al to get a G26 motor?
Thanks and TTYL

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11-26-2006 10:13 PM  11 years agoPost 11
rbort

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I think so
I meet alot of people sometimes it hard to keep track who is who!

Here is Al's phone number:

Ph. (570) 689-4561

Give him a call and tell him you spoke with Raja and you want a G26 engine like mine, all balanced, trued and with the extra lightened piston and he will take good care of you. Great guy to deal with, tell him I said hi as well!

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4210 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3288 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1570 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 402 flts

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