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11-23-2006 02:43 AM  11 years agoPost 61
flipped2left

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will somebody please explain why the building in madrid did not collapse after it burned for two days??
and the steel structure was still intact? I'm sure there was lots of paper to fuel this fire and other combustibles but it DID NOT COLLAPSE!! WTC 7! please explain that one! c'mon anyone?

Smile! people will wonder what you're up to!!

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11-23-2006 02:44 AM  11 years agoPost 62
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11-23-2006 02:49 AM  11 years agoPost 63
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11-23-2006 02:50 AM  11 years agoPost 64
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11-23-2006 03:15 AM  11 years agoPost 65
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http://www.youtube

Is that where you get your info. You might as well get it from the New York Post. Real class act there.

How come the Clintons were always around when their friends died? Guess they didn't want the truth to come out. How come it took the Hilderbeast three years to find those papers that were in her private office?

We could go on and on about what Bush did or didnt do. What he knew or didn't know. Give me a break and get a life. The demoncrats are in power now and they have a plan they say. Won't say what it is but they have one because they say it.

Homer

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11-23-2006 03:20 AM  11 years agoPost 66
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Heck Homer, I'll second that! Pass the biscuits!

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11-23-2006 04:30 AM  11 years agoPost 67
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I'm not a structural engineer, but I'm am amazed, that buildings like the trade center would collapse, after burning for less than 2 hours. Almost all engineers have said the same thing. Fire did not bring down the towers. Especially trade 7. All of the surviving fire men said the same thing, explosions, prior to the collapes of the twin towers. What is going on here. Owner increases insurance on the towers, 2 weeks prior to 9/11. Owner tells the fire department to pull it , on trade 7.
Buildings were shut down for major maintenance, 10 days before 9/11?
Is someone pulling our chain, or what???
Then, military exercises are scheduled for 9/11, so we have mass confusion.
The hijackers just happened to pick that day for the big invasion of America.
Norad cannot find 4 airplanes, and they are our first line of defense against air attack.
Is there just a little something wrong with this program????
Oh, and brother Bush, just happens to be out of town, reading to a 1st grade class in Florida, with his book, upside down.???
Yea buddy, keep the blinders on. You need em. Sunlight will kill you.
WAKE UP GUYS, YOU HAVE BEEN HAD.
JUST LIKE PEARL HARBOR.

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11-23-2006 04:39 AM  11 years agoPost 68
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WAKE UP GUYS, YOU HAVE BEEN HAD.
Jimco, do you only drink rainwater and pure grain alcohol?

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11-23-2006 05:05 AM  11 years agoPost 69
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No Kong: I add a little tomato juice. hehehe.

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11-23-2006 05:07 AM  11 years agoPost 70
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those planes didn't even hit right down the middle of the towers and yet they fell straight down. think about it. Take a stack of Jenga blocks and pull out a bunch of blocks on the left side about a third of the way down... which way does the top fall? does it all just crumble straight down? no... it falls off to the side that was weakened.

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11-23-2006 05:13 AM  11 years agoPost 71
jimco

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Here is the way building react to plane crashes.http://history1900s.about.com/od/19...empirecrash.htm
This was 1945. Have we regressed to the point that our buildings are that weak. ?????

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11-23-2006 05:17 AM  11 years agoPost 72
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Jimco and TrexRookie, all due respect but you're both WAY off base here, to the point of bordering on INSULTING all those who died with your attempts to forward falsehoods about the events of 9/11.

The planes hit. The fuel burned. The steel weakened in the heat (over time) and then the buildings collapsed.

Have a little respect and consideration for the well-known, physics-based, architecturally-accurate truths of that day and for all those there who fought to save lives.

It was Muslim Extremists who caused the events of that day and nothing more.

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11-23-2006 05:22 AM  11 years agoPost 73
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Amen

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11-23-2006 05:24 AM  11 years agoPost 74
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Gimbal, we aren't trying to insult the deaths of those who died that day. Those people in those buildings. Regardless of the cause, my condolences do go out to their families. A friend of mine lost his dad in that building. I almost lost two cousins.

And as for the rescuers, they were doing just that. Rescuing people, and again, their lives should be honored.

It's not like we're saying that "since the government did this, those people who died shouldn't be honored"...

Regardless of who was responsible of those events, they died either working to make this place a better country, or saving those in need of assistance. How does a possible government conspiracy change who those people were? It doesn't.

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11-23-2006 05:25 AM  11 years agoPost 75
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Well, I think it was a little more than fire... There was this little thing called a jumbo jet going probably 4-500 mph slamming into the side of the tower.. I bet the bulding moved a tad and probably broke a few beams.. That's quite a little fire ball in the bottom pic. It's more like a bomb.. Maybe you need to take a peek at the magnitude of the impact as well..

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/worldtrade.crash/

http://www.cnn.com/video/us/2001/09...ts.cnn.med.html

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11-23-2006 05:27 AM  11 years agoPost 76
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Gimble: This has nothing to do with respect for the dead. It is more to do with the lies about why they died,. Do you honestly believe that in the history of the modern world. that we actually had the only three buildings that were brought down by fire, 3 in one day, one not damaged by anything other than fire???
Every structural engineer in the western world has said , "No Way"/
Every major building fire in the world has not brought one down, after burning for several days, not just several hours.
Goes back to , "Something Rotten in Denmark"
Start the google search on the towers and get some first hand info.

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11-23-2006 05:27 AM  11 years agoPost 77
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There was this little thing called a jumbo jet going probably 4-500 mph slamming into the side of the tower.. I bet the bulding moved a tad and probably broke a few beams.. That's quite a little fire ball in the bottom pic. It's more like a bomb.. Maybe you need to take a peek at the magnitude of the impact as well..
Neither planes hit dead center of either buildings. In fact, the orientation of both impacts varied from one building to the other. And yet they fell in EXACTLY THE SAME manner. Straight DOWN. Those planes impacting the building only add to my point. If they hit on one side of the building, then the beams on the side of that impact would be affected by the impact more so than those on the opposite side.

Again, I mean no disrespect to those that died.

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11-23-2006 05:30 AM  11 years agoPost 78
GimbalFan (RIP)

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TrexRookie, since you are neither a structural nor an architectural engineer your claims are ONLY uneducated opinions. Again, with all due respect, get a degree or two (or three) and check back in. I'll bet you enough clams to keep you in helis for the rest of your life that your viewpoint would change on this.

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11-23-2006 05:46 AM  11 years agoPost 79
GimbalFan (RIP)

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get some first hand info.
I've already got the firsthand info. Had it for 4 years now. Thanks anyway, Jim.

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11-23-2006 06:05 AM  11 years agoPost 80
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TrexRoookie, since you are neither a structural nor an architectural engineer your claims are ONLY uneducated opinions.
ok, take a building and blow out only the supports on one side and see what happens.
all due respect but you're both WAY off base here, to the point of bordering on INSULTING all those who died with your attempts to forward falsehoods about the events of 9/11.
oh, and thanks for the accusation of me trying to dishonor those who died. I mean... saying "with all due respect" and saying that we're bordering the line of insulting those who died basically means to me that you feel that no respect is due. I said nothing to insult those who died. If anything, I'm trying to get to the bottom of what really happened. So what about those who are content with the government explination? Honestly, it'd be nice for me to be able to put this all behind me, but I feel I have too many questions unanswered and after almost losing two cousins in those buildings, I'd like to find an answer that I'm satisfied with. One cousin was supposed to be in one of the floors hit by one of the two aircraft. In fact, when he exited his building, he found office papers on the ground with HIS LETTERHEAD on them.

The government gives us a false sense of security. Look at how easy it was for Marc Ecko (owner of the Ecko Unlimited clothing line) to gain access to Air Force One, supposedly the MOST SECURE aircraft in the United States.
http://www.flurl.com/item/Marc_Ecko...e_One_u_128070/
If Marc could do it with such ease, what about someone else with worse intentions like sabotaging the aircraft? And if that is supposed to be the most secure aircraft in the U.S., how much LESS secure is everything else? Mind you, that video was shot post-9/11.

Political standpoints set aside, I just don't want anything like that to happen ever again because someone or some people in our government weren't being kept in check. period.

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