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11-22-2006 12:47 AM  11 years agoPost 1
oopsididitagain

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After learning tail in hover , I actually wanted to do side in or a little FF but i thought i try nose in instead . I've heard a lot of horror stories about how hard it is to learn nose in.

But i picked up nose-in hovering as though im doin tail in , all the controls are the same except the cyclic which reverse everything , but i just pick it up by moving the sticks in the relation following the heli movement. On radd's it says move or counter the movement of the mast for tail in but on nose-in i just followed the mast , say if the mast goes left , my right stick follows go left till it straightens out again. And holding the "tail" which is now the head is the same controls.

I just dont know what i should go with next since i have this two covered. left/right side in seems more difficult for me. Any suggestions guys?

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11-22-2006 01:01 AM  11 years agoPost 2
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Keep hovering nose-in for some sessions. Then on other sessions try side-ins. Begin by a tail-in hover. Then turn heli at an angle left or right. Hold it there. Continue to increase the angle until you are comfortable. Do the other side too. Keep doing this for several packs and sooner or later you can handle side-ins.

Since you can hover nose-in, the transition from tail-in to side-in to nose in will be natural. Pretty soon you can do slow piros.

For each orientation (tail-in, side-in, nose-in) paractice moving forward and back and left to right. Pick an imaginary destination and bring heli there. then go back to where you were. Master these and you are on your way to forward flight.

Nice going by the way.

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11-22-2006 01:07 AM  11 years agoPost 3
oopsididitagain

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but im still impressed with the fact that u still fly with the stock tx gino.

so i should not transition into any form of FF , banked turns yet? when is the point of learning figure 8s?

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11-22-2006 01:16 AM  11 years agoPost 4
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You need to be able to do side in hovering very well, because when you fly figure 8's your looking at the side of the heli 75% of the time.... Your nose in hovering only comes into play after your turn and the heli is coming at you slightly.... So work on the side in hovering until your very comfotable with it....Then it's off to figure 8's and circuits....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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11-22-2006 01:20 AM  11 years agoPost 5
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yes sir , ok now i'll try to work on my side-in. i find it very hard though a lot of people find it so easy.

so the best way to do left/right side in , is start with tail in then increasing the angle slowly either side?...

so if the heli is 45 degree with nose pointing at me facing left or right i can use nose in hover method , and if it gets 45 degree but tail towards me either way , i can use tail in hover. just that i have to learn side in as in perpendicular to me with nose 90 degrees to the left or right?

thanks

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11-22-2006 01:20 AM  11 years agoPost 6
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What I told you now is the "proper" way. However I ventured into ff and figure 8s long before I was hovering side-ins and nose-ins. Because it is easier to control a moving heli than a hovering one. I found it easy anyway. Try skim flying and you will get what I mean.

The point of flying figure 8s or anything for that matter is just to have fun. It is not a predicate to anything else.

However, not mastering side-ins and nose-ins got me into trouble a lot of times. So I suggest you do it the "proper" way.

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11-22-2006 04:03 AM  11 years agoPost 7
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how is the stick movement like for figure 8s and circuit?

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11-22-2006 06:37 AM  11 years agoPost 8
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Well if you know how the stick affects pitch,roll then it is a smooth combination of it. From a hover, moving stick up tilts heli and moves it forward provided you use throttle to control height.

When in ff and you apply a bit of right stick, the heli banks right and does a gentle turn. Now if you apply a bit of right nose, the bank becomes a sharp turn. A quick piro turns heli on a dime.

So in ff see how level the skids are so you know what is needed for a move. In a circle for example, I start with a hover, turn to the right with rudder then do ff with stick up. When heli reaches right side, I roll left and move nose to the left gently until I get curve I want.

So heli makes a wide turn and is now facing the left. I center the stick and maintain forward pitch. Then as I reach the left side, I do the routine over again. One wide turn and now the heli is facing the right. FF and the circle is complet.

For figure 8s, same thing but turn is sharper, ff to the right, stall, nose to the left then ff. When I reach the left, stall, nose turns right then ff to the right.

Just try it slowly. It will all come to you.

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11-22-2006 06:41 AM  11 years agoPost 9
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lol , everyone always say it'll come some day or it will click some day. i woudlnt want that day to be when the day that i say im done with the hobby or 30 years later lol

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11-22-2006 07:40 AM  11 years agoPost 10
Gino CP

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Well speed of learning is proportional to flight hours. The more you practice, the faster you learn. When I was starting I was flying about 4 or 5 packs a day. It's only now that I can fly any move right side up have I trimmed down flights to 2-3 packs a day. But I still fly daily.

The point of this hobby is to have fun. Make each session fun not an obligation.

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11-22-2006 06:29 PM  11 years agoPost 11
oopsididitagain

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1 more question , on stock tx you will have to pull throttle trim all the way down to arm.

Is it necessary to do so on a dx6 tx too? cause i saw on mid trim on the throttle trim , with lowest stick. the 3 in 1 arms. so i shouldnt have a problem right?

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