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11-09-2006 12:48 PM  14 years ago
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SSN Pru

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Flying Style: Thumbs or Pincher Style
hey all,

Im curious. How are you flying on the TX? Do you use your thumbs on the sticks only or do you use the pincher style with the index and thumb pinching the stick? ive been flying planks for 15 years now and helis for about 4 and i fly both with thumbs. im starting to think that my thumbs are causing a whole lot of control interactions. ive tried to fly pincher style and i can do it but its entirely alien to me in feel. its like im a beginner hovering around all over again. when i try it, i eventually revert to thumb style and get on with flying and havin fun!

so what technique do you all use and also very important: what kind of flying do you do?

pru
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11-09-2006 01:06 PM  14 years ago
helimatt

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I use... ahem... my thumbs, but I started on airplanes too (still fly them by the way), and have been told I need to learn to fly "pincher" style. That style is supposed to be more precise, so I guess I'll have to give it serious consideration.

Of course, some people can play guitar with their feet...
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11-09-2006 01:20 PM  14 years ago
dct

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Pinch only!!!**Now doing Forward Flight And EASY 3d! And having a Ball !!**
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11-09-2006 01:40 PM  14 years ago
Lorents

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Thumbs here. It isnt my fingers holding me back...

BTW, this has been asked a bzillion times


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11-09-2006 02:44 PM  14 years ago
bbeverlie

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Thumbs too! But I plan to spend allot of time on the
sim this winter trying to get the finger pinch and
brain on the same page
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11-09-2006 03:36 PM  14 years ago
kcass518

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I'm a pincher. I learned that way 14 years ago, and it has helped with the helis. I also use a neckstrap on planks and helis. I've gotten used to it and it gives me a stable base which helps my precision. Especially helpful with the Trex!

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11-09-2006 03:59 PM  14 years ago
caseyjholmes

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Thunbs only. Neckstrap only. Tried rc radio tray, didn't like it. Might have liked a tray with more adjustability..

Learned using "RC STUNT COPTER" for playstation game console on the thumbs with the "analog joy sticks" (just like the real deal) about 5-6 years ago. I'd swear that game is the quickest way to learn forward flight anywhere. Now "learning" on reflex with a 9C super.
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11-09-2006 04:11 PM  14 years ago
kcass518

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Forgot to add - I've flown planks for 14 years, but helis only 5. I can loop and am starting to roll, but I'm not ready for 3D.
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11-09-2006 04:11 PM  14 years ago
TrexRookie

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thumbs/neck strap here... there really is no 'best' way IMO... it's mostly personal preference. If anything, the benefit of thumbs is that you can move the sticks faster, but on the flip side you lose out on accuracy a little. Pinch, from what I've been told is a little slower since you gotta move two fingers, but is more accurate...
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11-09-2006 04:17 PM  14 years ago
Jason Chow

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im weird, sometimes i use only thumbs, sometimes, i pinch with my left hand on the throttle rudder stick, but i always use thumb for cyclic stick.

also, my cyclic stick is much higher than my throttle stick which is still pretty high. im very picky of my radio sticks, ha.
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11-09-2006 04:19 PM  14 years ago
caseyjholmes

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I find my forfinger drifting between on top of the top switches to the back of the radio and back while flying.. kindof a bad habbit..

trays seem to work good for folks who fly "pinching"..

I Read on youngbloods' site, that people who fly thumbs only should dial in a tiny bit of expo, since movement with thumbs can be a bit more erratic.. I have a dual expo for landing and normal flying around programmed into my D/R switch with the rates. (0 expo for 3D, 10% expo for landing and normal flight)

Also, seems I prefer my sticks hight with the stick grip screwed to the first line on the stick (9chp)
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11-09-2006 04:41 PM  14 years ago
Jon the Rooster

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All Thumbs!!and one more thing "DON'T BE AFRAID!"
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11-09-2006 05:16 PM  14 years ago
SSN Pru

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there really is no 'best' way IMO
I wasnt really interested in the best way because I know that everyone is different. I was merely trying to get some kind of a consensus.
BTW, this has been asked a bzillion times
this may have been discussed a while ago but i never saw it. i troll this forum daily and havent seen it discussed. i usually dont start threads that have been discussed to death. i realize how annoying that can be.

i find that trying to learn pincher once you are proficient with thumbs is analogous to trying to learn to write with your other hand (assuming your not ambidextrous).

im giving it a shot slowly each time i fly but it severly limits my ability to recover from an awkward orientation. like casey, when i try pincher, i find myself not so much using the index for the actual movement but still use my thumbs for the movement and my index finger sometimes wanders right off of the stick. i guess i have to get a neckstrap to support the TX cause its very uncomfy to pincher it up without the support.

anyone know how the Szabo's fly?

pru
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11-09-2006 05:16 PM  14 years ago
MarksRC

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Pincher with neckstrap here, but, learned on planks that way first.
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11-09-2006 10:21 PM  14 years ago
docjoe

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I started flying thumbs but made myself learn pinch. Actually mine is a combo of the 2, thumb on top and then forefinger on the mid to upper stick.

Here's a link to my previous post earlier this year:
http://runryder.com/t243366p1/
Joe
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11-09-2006 10:53 PM  14 years ago
TrexRookie

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I'm pretty sure Alan Szabo Jr. flies with the pinch... As for Sr. and Danny, I have no idea...
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11-10-2006 01:06 AM  14 years ago
chan

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I've been thumb for several years.
But,recently I changed to pinch style. It's discussed several times and I finally changed to pinch. I definitely believe you can get more precise control with pinch. Most top pilots use pinch
Hornet,FP helis,Trex450 series,V100D01,mCP x and more
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11-10-2006 02:21 AM  14 years ago
ShellDude

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thumbs with big ol' thumb friendly gimbals~~OCHC~~
http://www.glumbert.com/media/spiders
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11-10-2006 02:46 AM  14 years ago
playfair

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I'm all thumbs.
Worked on pinching during sim practice, but I fear it's too late...
I'm sure it's not a night-and-day improvement on ones flying capabilities!

BTW, I run 20% expo all around for most flying. It made a huge difference in "thumb coupling", especially on the tail. I used to just have less, but it ends up the times we need the most precision are right around center stick.

There is a slight problem with the cyclic stick "walking" off your thumb during continuous *attempts at* piroflipping. I've been experimenting with a loose right stick, meaning it is partially unscrewed and pivots with your finger. It helps, but takes some getting used to.

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11-10-2006 02:55 AM  14 years ago
Nick Jones

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I pinch on the cyclic and thumb on the collective. I was a thumber at first but once my tricks advanced i needed to pinch made things smoother.
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