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10-29-2006 02:33 AM  12 years agoPost 1
c130pilot

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In light of my recent mishap (see my crashed thread), I have been thinking a lot about where and how we fly. Not that I didn't before, but something like what happened to us will get one's attention!

Curious to know what locations you all consider "too risky" to fly in. For some, this may be anywhere near a busy intersection... for others, maybe just not directly over crowds etc. What things do you consider, how do you mitigate any risk, and what are your limits?

Tim
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10-29-2006 01:47 PM  12 years agoPost 2
FLAP

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never anywhere around flesh and bone exposed in the open. The higher you have to go to get the photo, the further you have to expand that safety zone. Flying around cars, houses, and other inanimate objects present safety consideration, but not close to consideration for people.

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10-29-2006 03:50 PM  12 years agoPost 3
AceBird

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What things do you consider, how do you mitigate any risk, and what are your limits?
This relates to a 1/4 watt RC radio controlled helicopter.

No body wants to hear it but if there is a person within 200 ft of the aircraft then there should be a safety line attached to the heli that is no longer than 150 ft long so the person cannot get hit by the aircraft. Everything else can be handled with insurance.

Ace
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10-29-2006 04:01 PM  12 years agoPost 4
NitroSpazzz

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I DO NOT fly over people or directly over roads/cars. As altitude increases it is good and bad. High altitude means more time to plan the auto but it can also mean there is a wider range for where it could end up. I am also not completely competent in my rig yet so I won't do shots over 200 feet or so until I have more flights on it and feel more comfortable with it

Blake

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10-30-2006 12:58 AM  12 years agoPost 5
flyingrhino

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I don't fly over anything that can be damaged period. No mater how good you are things happen.

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10-30-2006 06:50 AM  12 years agoPost 6
fitenfyr

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Port Orchard, Washington

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I have no "set" rules.
Each location and shoot is evaluated for the viability and saftey of flight each time.

Some things I consider when evaluating a location.

1. Unsheltered people: Nobody in the flight path that is not protected by a piece of something more solid than the helicopter. Example Cars, buildings, overhangs, etc...
Exceptions to this would include models that are required for the shot and are COMPLETELY aware and briefed on the dangers and saftey procedures involved. Even then it better be the ONLY way to get the shot and the shot would have to be a must have for the client.

2. Emergency landing zones: Sufficent to accomidate the helicopter with at least 200% of the normal landing area for over shoot. Normally I say a 10x10' area is a nice sized LZ that affords you some room to move around with the wind and such. So an emergency landing site must be at least 20x20' area. This is usually not a big deal and is certainly adjustable based on the conditions and such.

3. Obstructions: There must be a clear take off, departure and landing path that does not overfly any unsheltered persons or cause disruption to persons/property not involved with the shoot.
In otherwords no straight up 50' then over the power lines kind of stuff. Too easy to get into trouble especially during landings.
Don't overfly the outdoor cafe and get the customers all nervous.

4. Sun Angle: Both for the shot and for the pilot. I always look to make sure my flight path is not going to require me to fly into or near the edge of the sun to avoid a loss of orientation issue.

5. Spotter/ground handler: A must in my opinion on ALL shoots where there are bystanders present or possibly present. We all know the reasons for that.

Those are just a couple of my "biggies".
I look at lot's of other personal preference issues like the terrain, slope, wind directions, swirling winds, surface types, adjacent structures, disturbance issues, etc...

One thing I always throw in the truck is a roll of caution tape. So I can barricade off an area if needed to keep people out.
This can sometimes create those "safe areas" that I consider.

Jason Stiffey
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10-30-2006 03:59 PM  12 years agoPost 7
NitroSpazzz

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I keep anywhere from 10-15 of those nice bright orange safety cones in my truck. If people see those they won't cross them, it has worked well for blocking off sections of road or parking lots

Blake

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