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10-25-2006 07:13 PM  12 years agoPost 21
flyride

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I tried different batterys and only had one servo in it and still problem also tried it in the heli all set up still glitches I tried different radio still there,tried without esc still there.I give up it will have to go back and get the futaba mini pcm reciever 146i .

and the blonde said "RECTUM, Hell damn near killed em!!"

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10-25-2006 07:21 PM  12 years agoPost 22
caseyjholmes

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how was the antenna wrapped up?
Maybe it was dropped at the hobby shop? Bummer dude, sorry to hear about it. The r146ip is expensive, but well worth it

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10-25-2006 07:24 PM  12 years agoPost 23
flyride

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It was wrapped the same as they usually come.Is the 146i a better reciever anyway.

and the blonde said "RECTUM, Hell damn near killed em!!"

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10-25-2006 07:24 PM  12 years agoPost 24
flyride

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At this point I just want somthing that works so I can fly the thing

and the blonde said "RECTUM, Hell damn near killed em!!"

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10-25-2006 07:30 PM  12 years agoPost 25
caseyjholmes

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try the r146ip and route the antenna like this..
http://www.holmesrc.com/files/antenna_routing.JPG

also, be sure to get the right type of crystal for the r146ip.
I think they are called "type 72-12 short type" And are about 1/8th" shorter than most normal crystals. It is a single convertion receiver, and does not say so on the package.

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10-25-2006 07:41 PM  12 years agoPost 26
flyride

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Just ordered the 146i and I hope it works should be here friday I hope.

and the blonde said "RECTUM, Hell damn near killed em!!"

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10-25-2006 07:50 PM  12 years agoPost 27
caseyjholmes

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Once you get it installed..
put the radio back into pcm mode (of corse)
if you continue to get glitches, they will come in the form of motor cutouts now with the r146ip. If the motor cuts out, try a different field. One where everyone else is flying pcm should work fine, and if you can't find a normal field, find the most open place with no telephone poles or electric wires or fences and try that.
You will get through this. It drove me nuts for a while too.

do a range check with the r146ip with your TX antenna down and walk about 30 paces away. Try to spool up the throttle. Don't go into hover, just leave it there for a minute. if the motor stops, there may be other wiring issues or esc/bec problems.

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10-25-2006 11:08 PM  12 years agoPost 28
flyride

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Thanks for all the help I hope it was just a bad reciever as none of my other recievers were like this in this area before.

and the blonde said "RECTUM, Hell damn near killed em!!"

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10-26-2006 03:50 AM  12 years agoPost 29
flyride

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How far can you get before the servos start to buzz with the antenna down I did a test again today and the short range(antenna down) still sucked about 25 feet or so but with the antenna up I went to the end of my street about 200 feet maybe and it was good.Yesterday it sucked so I am still confused is it ok to fly or not? I will put it back in my heli and try again and see what I get but the short range is still crappy or is 25 feet normal the instuctions say 100 feet but there is no way.

and the blonde said "RECTUM, Hell damn near killed em!!"

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10-26-2006 03:59 AM  12 years agoPost 30
caseyjholmes

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on my futaba rx's, since it is imperitive with electric to have a good radio link..
I put the antenna down and walk down hill on the the dirt path untill I can't see the heli over the curve of the hill. All I can see the is the tail blades, and I wiggle them around to be sure I have a radio link.

This is a good 30 paces from the heli. A pace is about 2.5-3 feet (depending on how tall you are). My guess is my r146IP will range check at about 90 feet for me.

I do this each time I fly near my house, to be sure nobody else is running my channel in the neighborhood, and just in case something I've changed effects the range.

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10-26-2006 12:09 PM  12 years agoPost 31
Jon the Rooster

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How far can you get before the servos start to buzz with the antenna down I did a test again today and the short range(antenna down) still sucked about 25 feet or so but with the antenna up I went to the end of my street about 200 feet maybe and it was good.Yesterday it sucked so I am still confused is it ok to fly or not? I will put it back in my heli and try again and see what I get but the short range is still crappy or is 25 feet normal the instuctions say 100 feet but there is no way.
What Rx are you testing? I thought yours wasn't do to arive till Friday.
Just ordered the 146i and I hope it works should be here friday I hope
????
DON"T FLY TILL YOU GET HER TO RANGE CHECK GOOD!!

and one more thing "DON'T BE AFRAID!"

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10-26-2006 04:37 PM  12 years agoPost 32
dct

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I have a Futaba receiver R146ip and a Berg 7p
My Futaba receiver will range check until I can't see my helicopter controls .
My Berg 7P I am using in my airplane right now and when rang checking it will start to glitch with and antenna in about 15 ft.
I have tried 3 other receivers and brands and if there not a Futaba receiver my radio just doesn't seem to like them.
If I hold my radio with the antanna strait up it will glitch at 15 ft.
If I hold my radio so the antanna is sideways (horizontal ) and to my side it will rang chek to 40 ft or more. I know my Berg 7P has good range in the air I have flown my airplane almost out of sight and it has never glitches when in the air so far .

**Now doing Forward Flight And EASY 3d! And having a Ball !!**

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10-26-2006 04:42 PM  12 years agoPost 33
flyride

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still messin with the d@#m berg I took it back to the hobby store(over an hour round trip to get there) to get a new one and they said they need me to bring in the heli so they can see if they can get it to work before they replace it,it is a load of crap now I have to find time to drive there again with my heli so they can see the same thing I am seeing, They treat you like you are an idiot and are to dumb to plug the reciever in correctly or somthing. So I am still fiddeling around with it as I now have time to kill until I get back to the LHS (Wich I will never shop at again).It is not my reg LHS but my reg one did not have the receiver so I had to search around.

and the blonde said "RECTUM, Hell damn near killed em!!"

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10-27-2006 01:00 AM  12 years agoPost 34
flyride

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Any other futaba owner have the same results as dct mentioned.15 feet seems riskey to me if it is glitching without the motor running what is going to happen when you are out flying full throttle.Also if it was an a plane I might not be as worried but helis fall in any direction planes usually only fall nose first.

and the blonde said "RECTUM, Hell damn near killed em!!"

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10-27-2006 01:25 AM  12 years agoPost 35
dct

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Just so you know,, my Burg will glitch even doing a rang check with only one servos plugged in to the receiver by it's self .. I think my Burg is working fine, but it doesn't like my antenna unless it is held out to my side and flat not pointing up.

**Now doing Forward Flight And EASY 3d! And having a Ball !!**

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10-27-2006 02:11 AM  12 years agoPost 36
MikeInMobile

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Pull the crystal out and place a peice of masking tape over the base of the crystal, pushing the crystal's pins through the masking tape, and then re-insert the crystal. The Berg crystals will short out on the sockets for the crystals pins if the crystal is fully inserted (I found this issue when I installed mine). If the light on the receiver lights up, the crystal has shorted out, or the transmitter's signal is not available to the receiver. My experiences with this receiver have been exceptionally good, with range checks of over 300 feet with the antenna disconnected (I use a rubber-ducky antenna).

My solution is actually alot lighter ..... I removed the case, inserted the crystal so that it was 90% inserted, and shrink-wrapped the unit, cutting the shrink-wrap to expose the servo connectors. This reduces the weight of the receiver down to 5 grams!

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10-27-2006 02:20 AM  12 years agoPost 37
balbs

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I'm haveing issues with my new Berg 7 as well.

I have a T-REX SE with an old original Berg 6 in it. It works perfect. I swapped out the Berg 6 with the Berg 7...all of a sudden I got glitches. I placed the Berg 7 in the exact location as the original Berg 6. Same antenna routing and everything. No glitches on the old 6 but glitches on the 7.


Just for kicks I placed the Berg 6 back on. The Berg 6 is perfect.

Makes me even wonder why the Berg 7 is cheaper than the Berg 6. Did Castle Creations skimp on quality on the Berg 7?

At this point, I would trade in my new Berg 7 for a perfectly working used Berg 6.

I'm going to try the Hyperion Berg next.

Balbs

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10-27-2006 02:24 AM  12 years agoPost 38
flyride

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I pulled the crystal out a few times and checked it and it shouldnt short out because the plastic stops it from giong in all the way.a few more tests today after messing with the x-tal,With the antenna all the way down it twitches at about 10 to 15 feet (servo buzz and slight movement) but was able to get about 100+ feet I would guess before total loss of signal then slightly pull up the antenna and go further.I am not sure how bad the servos were jumping that far away because I was alone and cant be in 2 places at once but it seems to have good range before total loss but still is twitchy up close.What do you guys think is it ok, what is more important how far before it twitches or how far before loss of control?

and the blonde said "RECTUM, Hell damn near killed em!!"

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10-27-2006 02:25 AM  12 years agoPost 39
MikeInMobile

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Where did you get your Berg? I ordered mine from Tower Hobbies and it has worked perfectly since day one other than the crystal issue. Try backing the crystal out just a little and see of that seems to fix the issue. I had issues until I backed the crystal out about 1/32", and then ALL of the issues vanished!

It's possible that CC had a bad batch of the receivers

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10-28-2006 02:26 AM  12 years agoPost 40
flyride

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PCM wins!!! Range test at about 200 feet antenna down before it locked out for a second on the first try and even farther on the second try with no lockout and no servo jumping around and buzzing.Now I should be able to get it in the air without worrying about glitch problems.Well worth the extra $29 more than the Berg.An xtra $30 may save me $100's in repairs.

and the blonde said "RECTUM, Hell damn near killed em!!"

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