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10-24-2006 06:07 PM  12 years agoPost 1
Jon the Rooster

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Was thinking about dye'n the MH main & autorotaion gears black, but don't want to cause problems down the road. Anyone that has dyed these parts or align gears have any comments about performance, like made them soft or britle?
Ya or Na??
Thanks

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10-24-2006 06:13 PM  12 years agoPost 2
CACTUSJACK (RIP)

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I dyed mine and cannot tell the difference. Durability has remained the same.

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10-24-2006 06:29 PM  12 years agoPost 3
Remyrw

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Dye choice and temp
Check that the dye you choose is safe for that type of plastic, I'm not sure exactly what kind the gears are, but I know some dyes aren't so good for certain plastics. The other thing to watch for is heat. not that it'll weaken the gear, but that if the dye you use requires boiling the part in the dye solution you might wind up with a warped part, so obviously a dye that will work in room temp or at least a relatively mild heat is better.

Other than that, lots of us have been dying rc car parts for decades with no problems. I always did my wheels and any exposed white plastic to match the paint job of the body I was using and never had a wheel get brittle or break when I wouldn't have expected it to. Some of those wheels were used almost daily for a year or more with no problems until I managed to break them doing something stupid or just changed styles.

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10-24-2006 08:42 PM  12 years agoPost 4
Air_Alpheus

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I dyed my blues black with no prob. I brought the dye to a slight boil and then turned off the heat put the gears in and let them sit for about 10 minutes and they are perfect. been running them this way for 6 months no worries.

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10-25-2006 06:06 AM  12 years agoPost 5
Remyrw

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cool
good to know. so much about dying depends on the plastic that it's almost an art rather than science. From the sounds of it, the plastic in the Align gears is pretty dye friendly.

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10-25-2006 09:44 PM  12 years agoPost 6
Air_Alpheus

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the white gears are a little different. they are softer and have to be placed flat on the bottom of the pan. if not when it gets warm it warpes out of shape. but the blue you dont have to worry, but it doesent heart to place it flat also.

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10-26-2006 02:31 AM  12 years agoPost 7
Air_Alpheus

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heres some pics of my dyed gears on my two rexes

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10-26-2006 02:46 AM  12 years agoPost 8
kingair

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What kind of dye are you using and where do you get it?

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10-26-2006 02:54 AM  12 years agoPost 9
blackkat98

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RIT dye.....Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Target, etc.

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10-27-2006 12:54 AM  11 years agoPost 10
flyride

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What about the canopy can you dye that and will it come out good color wise or can you paint it.I know that my raptor canopy the bleach bottle plastic type doesnt paint well but dont know about the thin trex conopy plastic.P.S. I like the look of black gears over the blue.

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10-27-2006 01:01 AM  11 years agoPost 11
Air_Alpheus

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I tried it but it turned into a shrinky dink,but it does paint alot better than raptor canopy just scuff it up and paint it. Mine dosent crack or chip.

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10-31-2006 06:52 PM  11 years agoPost 12
Jon the Rooster

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MH parts don't dye that well!!
Now I have a dirty green maingear & a Brown Auto gear!
Mabey I'll pratice on some old maingears & boil it longer.

and one more thing "DON'T BE AFRAID!"

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10-31-2006 08:48 PM  11 years agoPost 13
TomRex

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Jon, A couple years back it was common practice to boil the plastic main gears to soften them and keep them from cracking but I think the align blue stuff and the uH gears are from a delrin plastic and doesn't crack like the old ms composite ones.

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11-01-2006 01:11 AM  11 years agoPost 14
Jon the Rooster

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Thanks Tom! Tried again with sucess!
In a sause pan bring 1 bag of RIT Dye to a boil, Drop in Gears, turn down to simer 5 min, turn off heat let sit 10min, rinse off with luke warm water.

Sounds like some type of recipe, I know!!

Some of the Dye clumped together on the Test gears (Align )witch cleaned off with a toothbrush & water, Still True!! Came out Perfect!!

No More Goofy Colors!!

and one more thing "DON'T BE AFRAID!"

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11-01-2006 01:15 AM  11 years agoPost 15
caseyjholmes

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Dude! do mine too! sweet I need some rit dye

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11-01-2006 01:33 AM  11 years agoPost 16
Air_Alpheus

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1 bag of dye is a bit much. I use the liquid dye and use about 3 tablespoons of dye in about 2 cups of water. thats my recipe.

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11-01-2006 04:40 AM  11 years agoPost 17
CrashTestPilot

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I've dyed Align white and blue as well as the MH gear. I used liquid dye, but found the color was muddy (not dark enough, looked transparent) after only 10 minutes, so I removed them, brought the heat up again, then let them sit overnight.

The Microheli gears are more sensitive to heat and warp easily...ask me how I know! In fact, I wouldn't put them in boiling water or anything even close, certainly not simmer them. If you do, make sure they're in a flat bottom pan, maybe add some weight to the gear's circumference to keep it flat while cooling. I found a drinking glass the exact size of the gear, laid it atop the gear around the edge, then put some weight atop the glass to keep it down and in place.

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11-10-2006 03:34 PM  11 years agoPost 18
kingair

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I dyed my gears last night, in the end it worked out okay but I did have some problems. I used a few Tbs. of liquid rit dye in around 2 cups of water, boiled, turned off the heat, and dropped in the gears. The gears soaked for over ten minutes then I rinsed, dried and reinstalled. When I turned the gears the top, main gear rubbed slightly on the frame. It still turned true but the gear sort of coned up a bit. The bottom gear meshed with the small tail drive gear fine as it always had.

Rather than toss the main gear I decided to try and fix it. I set the gear in a pan of water with a drinking glass resting on it in the direction opposite the cone. I brought the water up to nearly boiling, turned the heat off, and let everything cool for a while. Later on I compared the dyed gear with a new gear and they matched so I reassembled the heli. Everything looks right so I expect the gear will be okay. I’ll fly it today and see.

In bright sunlight the dye job looks brown instead of black but it was an interesting experiment anyway. I think I might try it again but I’d let the water cool to say 150 degrees before dropping the gears in and maybe use more dye or less water. What do you people think?

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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11-10-2006 04:09 PM  11 years agoPost 19
Jon the Rooster

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The way I dyed parts (above) works Great!! Mabey overkill on using the whole pack of Rit but Very efective!! No deforming of parts at all!!

and one more thing "DON'T BE AFRAID!"

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11-10-2006 04:29 PM  11 years agoPost 20
kingair

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I bet the coning on my gear was unique to that particular gear. Not the Align blue gears in general but my one and only gear. I say that because the other gear I dyed ended up fine and others don't seem to have any probs. Also, It sounds like you expose your gears to more heat and for a longer time than I did. Who knows. It's nice to know you can reform them some though and still have them run true err I mean run true as it ever did.

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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