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10-24-2006 05:42 PM  12 years ago
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Mattiward

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I took this photo at Southend On Sea. Unfortunately i've not got a clue what it is - any ideas?

And no cleverclogs saying "its a big grey helicopter"

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10-24-2006 05:49 PM  12 years ago
z11355

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Sikorsky CH-53, probably E series.
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10-24-2006 05:50 PM  12 years ago
ChrisC

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or a big grey helicopterHooked on Align
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10-24-2006 05:58 PM  12 years ago
Mattiward

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Thanks z11355 and thank you Chris....

Where in essex do you live? i'll have to arrange some waterbombs when i'm flying in the area

Cheers guys I can update my Gallery now
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10-24-2006 06:00 PM  12 years ago
fitenfyr

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I think it is actually a D series.
The E series has 3 engines and is usually a Marine Corp aircraft used for mine sweeping.
That is a USAF ship.
The easy way to tell is on the other side of the aircraft.
You will see the exhaust port sticking out of the left side above the fuselage.
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10-24-2006 06:00 PM  12 years ago
ChrisC

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Benfleet - Take you best shot

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10-24-2006 06:04 PM  12 years ago
Mattiward

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"Incoming!!"


I'll see if we can swap the FLIR camera turret for a SM WBDT

Special Missons Water Bomb Deployment Turret
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10-24-2006 06:11 PM  12 years ago
z11355

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You're right, probably a D, not E.

The E has a 7th rotor blade and 3rd engine exhaust on
the upper eppenage (sp?)
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10-24-2006 06:19 PM  12 years ago
DOperchal

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Its a MH-53 Pavelow. It is used extensively by the AF for special operations and is being phased out in the next few years by the CV-22.

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10-24-2006 06:32 PM  12 years ago
z11355

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OK, I can be wrong multiple times

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milit...53-features.htm

Survey says: MH53J Pavelow
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10-24-2006 06:36 PM  12 years ago
fitenfyr

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Oh yeah forgot about the extra blade.

The J Series also has a full glass cockpit if I recall.
The ones prior to that still had "steam guages".

Either way the military is loosing out replacing them with the V-22 IMO.
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10-24-2006 06:49 PM  12 years ago
z11355

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since when has that stopped them from buying expensive sh*t they
dont really need and actually causes readiness to take a step backwards?
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10-24-2006 06:55 PM  12 years ago
tris_heli

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It is used extensively by the AF for special operations
Beg's the question what its doing at southend-on-sea?? I mean, its hardly the center of al qaeda in the UK (but then again, maybe!)
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10-24-2006 07:01 PM  12 years ago
ChrisC

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Essex girls like a big chopper Hooked on Align
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10-24-2006 07:46 PM  12 years ago
Mattiward

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You should have seen the aircrew when we arrived!!! They all scuttled under the shadow of their machine squatting down quivering!

Mind you if it were the otherway around, we would have dived under an adjacent holiday "plank" - squirrel included


So are we all in agreement its a MH-53 Pavelow?

Oh what does Pavelow mean?
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10-24-2006 08:51 PM  12 years ago
DOperchal

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The PAVE acronym has been used in a multitude of USAF aircraft and munitions since Vietnam. PAVE means Precision Avionics Vectoring Equipment. It was first used in the Paveway LGB's in the early 70's and has been expanded to other hardware that have specialized electronics eg. Pavehawk, (HH-60) Pave Spectre (AC-130U).Peace through superior firepower
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10-24-2006 08:53 PM  12 years ago
DOperchal

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The MH-53's are based at Mildenhall AFB in England in order to be able to be rapidly deployed if needed in EUCOM.Peace through superior firepower
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10-24-2006 09:56 PM  12 years ago
Silvashadow

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Beg's the question what its doing at southend-on-sea?? I mean, its hardly the center of al qaeda in the UK (but then again, maybe!)
If it is USAF then it probably ran out of gas..........or just got lost
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10-24-2006 10:24 PM  12 years ago
AirWolfRC

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Looks like a CH-53J PavelowIII

the 53D had 6 blades, 72ft diameter, 2 turbines
the 53E had 7 blades, 79ft diameter, 3 turbines
the 53J had 6 blades, 72ft diameter, 2 turbines

"Either way the military is loosing out replacing them with the V-22"

Not quite. The V-22 is intended to replace the CH-46, not the CH-53.
The CH-53 has a much higher payload and cabin size than either the CH46 or V-22.

From Rotorhead.com
The MH-53J Pave Low is a modified version of the HH-53 Super Jolly Green Giant helicopter used extensively during the Vietnam War for special operations and rescue of combat personnel. During past space programs, the HH-53 was on duty at the launch site as the primary astronaut recovery vehicle. Under the Air Force's Pave Low IIIE program, nine MH-53H's and 32 HH-53s were modified for night and adverse weather operations and designated MH-53J's. Their modifications included forward-looking infrared, inertial global positioning system, Doppler navigation systems, a terrain-following and terrain-avoidance radar, an on-board computer and integrated avionics to enable precise navigation to and from target areas.


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10-25-2006 12:49 AM  12 years ago
DOperchal

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The AF is replacing their MH-53's with the V-22's while the Marines are replacing the *CH-46's for MV-22's.

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