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01-17-2010 07:16 AM  8 years agoPost 5061
chopha

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Townsville, Queensland - Australia

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Guys you are in for a treat here is a taste of what to expected.
Mark Lilley flying the new Aeolus 50 3D SV from Heli Hoods And Grafix

http://rotarypower3.com/jafa/Video/...lyingAeolus.wmv

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01-18-2010 09:34 AM  8 years agoPost 5062
Footey

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Hamilton New Zealand

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Well I just stuck in the 14th window into the UH1-Y I hope it speeds up a bit from here or it will be 2011 Warbirds over Awatoto before it hits the sky. I'm just going to use my 8S Compass Mechanics in it so at least that part flies, it is a bit of a waste having 8717 servos in a scale but I don't have time to change them. It will be the fastest scale machine around with flybarless head LOL I can't wait to see how it loops
The sound system should be here this week, just need to work out how big and where to put the speakers

Life is like a bath, the longer you stay in it the more wrinkled you get.

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01-18-2010 05:24 PM  8 years agoPost 5063
efliernz

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I can tell you where to put the speakers Kev!!!
How about progress photos???

Pete, Trex500, Trex600E, Streched 600, DSX9, DX7, Low-volt alarms - check the gallery for my alarms

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01-19-2010 07:32 PM  8 years agoPost 5064
Footey

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Hamilton New Zealand

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I hope to get the mechs into the fuse today, then I will be able to see what speakers I can fit inside it, come over on the weekend Pete and have a look

Life is like a bath, the longer you stay in it the more wrinkled you get.

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01-19-2010 10:16 PM  8 years agoPost 5065
efliernz

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Hamilton, New Zealand

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I will do

I'm being forced to go to the classic car racing at Hampton Downs on Saturday... bugga.

Pete, Trex500, Trex600E, Streched 600, DSX9, DX7, Low-volt alarms - check the gallery for my alarms

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01-20-2010 10:07 AM  8 years agoPost 5066
jdvuyk

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Auckland, NZ

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700 Screws
hey all, complete change of subject. I just splashed out and bought myself a 700n and have a question for other owners.

Im aware that plenty of people on the forums complain about the quality of the frame screws (M3 x 8). They 'round' and can be a pain to get out. My 600 did the same thing on some screws and it drove me nuts. I planned on replacing them from the start with better quality cap screws, but of course Align decided to make them a really peculiar shape with a flange under the head of each screw.

has anyone found a supplier/fastener shop to get better quality bolts from that are the correct shape? there are 40+ of these things so kind of want to get it right from the start. Just thought I would throw it out there in case someone else had jumped through this hoop already.

Cheers
jamie

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01-20-2010 10:21 AM  8 years agoPost 5067
bigbadflyer

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Middle Earth New Zealand

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I brought some high quality stainless steel screws and brought some after market trex 700 sleeved caps to go around them from ebay I think it was. So far they are perfect. Also invest in a high quality hex set. I also read that the Align hex sets that Kevin sells fit the frame screws really well.

C.

New Zealand Helicopter Sheep Hearding Champion :-)

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01-20-2010 06:28 PM  8 years agoPost 5068
jpla010

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Auckland, New Zealand

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Heres what I'm doing on my new 700LE

The problem with the screws is that the shouldered part binds on the carbon fiber, because most of the fits are too tight (check for yourself, you'll see what I mean). So I'm simply getting a 4.5mm drill bit (the diameter of the bolt shoulder) and going through each of those shoulder holes. Takes all of 5mins and will make screw removal a lot easier

I havn't stripped any screws on my current 700 (using the align driver, which is a better fit then some other allen keys I've tried ) but I have come close to it, but only on the screws where the shoulder fit was way too tight, all the others have been fine

Jonathon

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01-20-2010 07:03 PM  8 years agoPost 5069
Footey

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Hamilton New Zealand

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I can't say that I have ever stripped one of the frame screws on any T-Rex I have had and I have had them all and more than one of each. I don't use loctite on the frame screws because they grip so well on the carbon they never come loose. If I have a sticky one I just bounce the driver until the screw breaks its grip and have yet to strip one. I think some people may be a bit heavy handed putting helicopters together, in fact I know this I see it nearly everyday in the shop, they are only small screws and don't need 80lbs of torque on them.

Life is like a bath, the longer you stay in it the more wrinkled you get.

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01-21-2010 12:58 AM  8 years agoPost 5070
jdvuyk

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Cheers Jonny/Kevin.

I think the solution might be a bit of both. I think alot of people go nuts with the loctite and it causes the issue. I will go super sparing, if at all. Also will look at the holes themselves to make sure they are big enough.

Eventually I would like to replace them as I cant stand rounding them off. But this buys me some time to source some alternative 700 caps to put standard bolts into.

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Jamie

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01-21-2010 07:14 PM  8 years agoPost 5071
jpla010

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If you do ream out the holes like I did you will definetly want to use loctite as normal, but if you leave the holes as they are then no loctite is required. Enjoy the 700, it is a wicked heli to fly

Jonathon

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01-23-2010 03:14 PM  8 years agoPost 5072
siang

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I've had 5 sets of allen keys, from the lowest quality to the guaranty for life and surprisingly only the Align ones work always, still I do experience stripped but very rarely. There is one engineering shop here at East Tamaki, Auckland where I got my SHCS b4 I had the align allen key but I only know how to get there, lol, dont remember the shop/road name. If you really want to know I can make a drive over .

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01-23-2010 08:16 PM  8 years agoPost 5073
mwahaha

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Lower Hutt, New Zealand

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but I only know how to get there, lol, dont remember the shop/road name.
Hate that lol i do it all the time with work. Try "driving" the google satellite map, it works for me.

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01-24-2010 03:11 AM  8 years agoPost 5074
Footey

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Hamilton New Zealand

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ARe these the type of whashers you are after? http://www.alphamodel.co.nz/catalog...5-0807&x=10&y=9

We have them in stock I will get the guys to load up the webpages for them tomorrow.

Life is like a bath, the longer you stay in it the more wrinkled you get.

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01-24-2010 05:32 AM  8 years agoPost 5075
bigbadflyer

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Middle Earth New Zealand

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No, those are just pretty caps.
The ones from overseas are a proper Trex cap that has a sort of a sleeve on them that fits tightly into the holes on the frame just like the align bolts do. When you undo the screw the cap remains in place on the frames as it is a nice snug fit.

C.

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01-24-2010 09:34 PM  8 years agoPost 5076
davebNZ

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Wellington, New Zealand

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These are the ones I've used - very good. Strong, snug fit, and no stripping ! Look good too

http://lironheliproducts.com/

Here is another source, slightly odd place, unless you like hand crafts ;-)

http://www.stuffno1.com/index.php

They have coloured ones if teletubby purple is your thing.

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01-24-2010 10:31 PM  8 years agoPost 5077
JAGNZ

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Auckland, New Zealand

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Just a reminder guys about our Heli FF this weekend! Please get your bums over to:
http://rosff.eventbrite.com/
and register asap so I know how many are coming!

Look forward to seeing you all there....

Also, anyone who can assist with the BBQ and other items on the weekend, can you please PM me so I can get bodies sorted in time??


Jason Greenwood

www.3dheli.co.nz

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01-25-2010 12:08 PM  8 years agoPost 5078
siang

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It could be accent drive from google map, but still, I can only confirm by driving over, lol. Saying that, they are actually Socket Head Cap Screw, they do have others like button head or counter sink hardened machine screws, BUT .... as mention by a few others, they are actually different from trex 600/700 heli screws that has a flange under its head. It's fine for 450, that where I got mine for, but the 600 and 700 do use different type of cap scr.
Oh almost forgot about the FF, I'll need sweet talk my wife into going, lol. Mother in Law just arrived here for holidays.

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01-26-2010 12:43 AM  8 years agoPost 5079
jdvuyk

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Auckland, NZ

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haven't checked in a few days. Thanks for all the replies. I ended up going with Kevin's method, no loctite. They are solid but I will be keeping a VERY close eye on them and have sparingly loctited the few that dont seem to grab well. I will check out the links above and look at replacing in due course.

another questions that I cant seem to find a straight answer to...
What setting should I start with 91 engine needles. There is loads of info out there on techniques to tune a multi-needle engine but none seems to say start with xxx turns and work from there, which is common for a 50. The manual just says "1/2 turn out from normal" - but what the heck is normal???

basically ready for the maiden and want to put a few run-in flights on it. Info appreciated.
Cheers
Jamie

700LE Nitro | Atom 500 | 6HV | MCPx | DSX9
Jamie

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01-26-2010 12:52 AM  8 years agoPost 5080
jpla010

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Auckland, New Zealand

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if its an OS91HZ (or Align 91H) it says in the manual that the nominal running setting are 2 turns out on the main and 2 turns out on the mid, so for run in go 2.5 turns out on main and 2 turns out on mid. Just ran mine in for 3 flights at 2.5 turns and have ended up at 2 turns (plus 1 or 2 clicks open) on the main and 2 on the mid still. It could probly be leaned further but it makes silly power at these settings anyway and its healthier for the engine to run slightly on the rich side

Jonathon

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