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04-21-2009 05:36 AM  10 years ago
jpla010

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Hey Jack try flying on the indoor scenery, its great for learning close stuff.
I'll second that!

I waited before I could piro-flip continuosly in the sports hall for 3 minutes without crashing before attempting it in real life.... And then tried it at 400 feet
Jonathon
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04-21-2009 05:41 AM  10 years ago
JAGNZ

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I waited before I could piro-flip continuosly in the sports hall for 3 minutes without crashing before attempting it in real life.... And then tried it at 400 feet

Jason Greenwood

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04-21-2009 06:02 AM  10 years ago
Flight Engineer

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I waited before I could piro-flip continuosly in the sports hall for 3 minutes without crashing before attempting it in real life....
But I don't have that much life left Jonny and may be dead before I can get to 3 mins piro flipping inside on the sim.
My method is to stick bang in real life until things are really pear shaped and then try and recover before it goes in
Dean
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04-21-2009 08:45 AM  10 years ago
Salby

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tips on the backwards hurricanes - they looked good last nite
Hmm hard to give advise, I guess the biggest thing is to watch the bank angle...too steep and it drops like a rock & too shallow & it climbs. I remember Alan Szabo saying that they do them more knife edge on the part coming towards yourself & going away, when directly in front or on the backside a bit shallower to keep the speed up.
From where the audience views the manouver its hard to see the difference.
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04-21-2009 11:30 AM  10 years ago
jpla010

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Thats good advice. I found it helped to learn to fly backward inverted circuits first then all you do from there is slowly increase the turn bank angle.. that way you learn to control the pitch so if your bank angle becomes to shallow you automatically reduce it and keep the heli in grooveJonathon
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04-21-2009 11:15 PM  10 years ago
JAGNZ

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Any of you Wellington lads live/work near Molesworth St (Taita area)? I need a hand urgently as one of our parcels was just delivered there and it was bought using a stolen credit card....it was just left there so it would be cool if you could do a drive by and see if it is still outside the address....

Thanks guys.

Jason Greenwood

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04-22-2009 01:22 AM  10 years ago
Lojik

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See Jasons post above please.
Ouch, is there any money back for suppliers like yourself if someone buys off a stolen card and your goods arn't returned?

I guess only if they catch the thief and then you can charge him.

P.s could Courierpost do a pickup? if its worth your $ might be worth getting a carrier like Sub60 to drive by to pick it up and take it courierpost.
Jack
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04-22-2009 01:49 AM  10 years ago
JAGNZ

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Thanks Jack, crisis averted.

CourierPost sent the driver back and luckily the parcel was still on the doorstep. Now, on to let the Police know (they don't care but at least the guys name can go into their database). And no, Merchants have no come back. We are 100% liable. The thing is that this was a NZ based Credit Card with a legitimate physical address and contact details. Criminals are getting more brazen...

The only reason it was caught is that our Merchant Bank rang us with info about suspicious activity on that card. They had checked with the card holder and the number was indeed stolen.

It was $500 worth of kit so we are very happy to get it back!

Jason Greenwood

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04-22-2009 03:46 AM  10 years ago
bigbadflyer

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Thats great news Jason. I was just going to contact you and go for a drive. I hate bastards and crooks that use or steal things!!

May they burn in eternity for ever

Glad you got your parcel back.

Cheye

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04-22-2009 04:20 AM  10 years ago
Lojik

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that was pretty lucky mate, I've had it happen to me in the UK.

Did they ask for a different delivery address to the credit card billing address?

If they did then like you said probably best to give the police the address.

the problem is nowadays there are sofisticated enought programs available to these people so they don't even need to steal your card, they can Just get the right info of the net and generate your card number, hey presto free internet shopping.

Jason do you have any systems in place to watch for these types of probelms, your in a high tech easy resell market, meaning your website will be one of the more common to be used to empty stolen card details with.

Personally I would flag any first time buyers who are spending more than $499 and add a clause saying first time purchases require 24 hours transaction confirmation to protect against internet card fraud.
Jack
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04-22-2009 04:26 AM  10 years ago
JAGNZ

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Cheers Cheye, I appreciate the support!
Jason Greenwood

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04-22-2009 04:37 AM  10 years ago
raynman

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I got your back too Jason!

Glad you got it back.
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04-22-2009 05:22 AM  10 years ago
JAGNZ

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Thanks guys, it is much appreciated.

Yes, Jack, we have quite sophisticated fraud detection systems in place but in these types of cases nothing really helps.

NZ Address and Phone number, NZ based Credit Card, not expired or reported stolen, no other red flags as to the order being out of the ordinary. The problem is that CC numbers are easily skimmed or generated from the Net. Once they are used it often takes until the next printed statement for a card holder to realise they have been had. This is unless the cards limit is hit straight away and then it is cut off by default of course.

I am now looking into the Verified by Visa and equivalent Mastercard System as a way of limiting our liability as a merchant. BUT, if you make it too hard for people to buy from you it's game over, they will buy elsewhere....it's a tightrope.

Jason Greenwood

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04-22-2009 05:54 AM  10 years ago
Lojik

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I know what you mean, I've often bought from another site back in the UK because my first choice was a hassle to register and get an order in.

allot of larger companies have now abolished the "first order must go to billing address" rule and just added credit card fraud as a variable cost on there yearly budget.

unfortunatly its a fact fo life that someone, somewhere will be trying to rip someone else off.
Jack
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04-22-2009 08:17 AM  10 years ago
jpla010

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04-22-2009 11:31 AM  10 years ago
sjw

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Hey Jonny

When I saw your post (Bugger..)
It made me think of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-Y3AsZ19Hc
Steven

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04-22-2009 09:08 PM  10 years ago
Lojik

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Sorry about the phoenix funfly
Sorry guys, I was working late on the house and completely forgot about the Phoenix funfly.

I remember next week.
Jack
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04-22-2009 10:12 PM  10 years ago
Footey

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Indoor flying in Hamilton Friday night if anyone is keen. Kick off is 8:00pm at the tennis centre in Dey St.Life is like a bath, the longer you stay in it the more wrinkled you get.
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04-22-2009 11:04 PM  10 years ago
bigbadflyer

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I mean come on. The guy was using a hobbico field charger and it wasn't balance charger as well.
What was he thinking.

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04-22-2009 11:58 PM  10 years ago
JAGNZ

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What was he thinking.
He wasn't, thus the result...

Jason Greenwood

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