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09-11-2006 04:15 AM  14 years ago
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Program for creating flight routines? Would you buy it?
It's really nice of those software vendors that work hard at improving the graphics, adding models for us to enjoy and some limited training functionality for learning to fly our models in the simulated world.

But, what if it was possible to:
1) create a move (either you or the vendor)
2) add these movies together to create a routine of some sort.
3) Save, modify and playback like an instant replay.
4) even better share these new recording, etc, (?) with your friends.

Now that's what i'm talking about.

It's hard learning each and every move and even harder try'n to develope a fly'n routine that looks half way decent with what you know. (manage flight time)

What does RR thank about my ideal?

What if the interface could be some sort of drag & drop after all the moves are created?

Nas,
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09-11-2006 07:39 AM  14 years ago
Justin911

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ahh. i just say save your money for parts and such, and get creative. use the sim to help you get a routene down... if you don't have a sim, then i recommend you get one.

creativity is the key here
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09-11-2006 12:00 PM  14 years ago
frebou

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Could be nice to have a software that could be used to print flight routine. In fact, it certainly exist (or something like a visio template) since the local competition (airplane) always distribute their imposed manoeuver with some nice printed manoeuver.

I know your talking more about a way to integrate this into the simulator but it could be great to have it appart too.
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09-11-2006 02:47 PM  14 years ago
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I need more info in this. I can work with visio or autocad. Any information that you can provide for be very helpful.

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09-11-2006 02:58 PM  14 years ago
shawgl

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You can already record your flying on G2 and G3 and share them. Write your routine down on paper and fly two or three moves together in the sequence and then replay it. Adjust accordingly. Spend your money on fuel. Train how you fight, plan your flight and fly your plan!!!In God we trust, everyone else we monitor.
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09-11-2006 03:01 PM  14 years ago
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Sounds like something worth checking out. There seems to be a lot of demand for flopping around aimlessly but some pilots may be interested. The sim is great for polishing your execution doesn't help you plan things.

Personally I don't give a hoot about graphics. If I can tell the ground from the air it works for me. After a point it only slows my computer down.

Is this something you'd be working on or just our Christmas list for G3 and XTR?
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09-11-2006 03:12 PM  14 years ago
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The sim sure does help you plan things out a routine...... I don't understand how it can't. No computer program is going to decide what move you can do upon exiting another. You need to be able to perform the moves individually first. Then you just need to sit down and write what order you plan to do the moves. Then either get on the sim and record it, see how it looks and make adjustments accordingly. Or go fly your heli. The bottom line is all it takes is a little planning and visualization. Do you own a G3?In God we trust, everyone else we monitor.
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09-11-2006 03:47 PM  14 years ago
stickyfox

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I think the planning and visualization is what the proposed software would help with.

I don't think it would kill the hobby to have more simulators out there, either. I've got G3 but I don't use it anymore since I got good at flying.
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09-11-2006 04:31 PM  14 years ago
frebou

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I don't have an exemple with me but I'll try to get one and see if we could get something out of it. I've been thinking about this for a couple of years without really investing time to sort out a solution. would be nice to have a standard for drawing flight figure... Why reinvent the wheel...

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09-11-2006 05:39 PM  14 years ago
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You are talking about a program to choreograph flying. I think that's nice. I guess it can be done in 3D studio or Maya?
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09-11-2006 06:36 PM  14 years ago
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shawgl

I'm looking at this from a Higher level, sure one can record everything or write down everything but making it simple improves the interest of people wanting to use it.

Lets say that I wanted to do 9 different moves in my routing but wasn't sure of the best way to place them for the to make sense.

With this tool I can on the fly copy and paste for example and along with watching the radio stick movements determine if the session will work for me.

Nas,
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09-11-2006 08:55 PM  14 years ago
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Well, if you are going to that level then you need the following as well:

1) The ability to have some kind of "lines" superimposed on the screen during each move so you can make sure you are flying perfectly horizontal, vertical etc. and starting and stopping maneuvers at the right points and with the correct attitude and speed.

2) A judge who can assign points based upona perfect flight and the crappy one you just did and allows you to back through and see where you missed the most points so you know what to improve upon which'll give you the most return (points-wise).

Note that this would be great for pattern fliers as well.

Now, put a camera on a tripod, take a movie of your flight, import that into the program and let the judge "judge" it so you are able to learn to fly the maneuvers on the SIM and then fly in real life.
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09-11-2006 10:51 PM  14 years ago
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keep it coming, now the ideals are starting to roll-in.

Nas,
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09-12-2006 10:30 AM  14 years ago
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im abit old fashioned I use the following pics put each manoeuvre in with a start position and an exit position then I put them all on the floor and try to arrange the last ones exit with the next ones entry

hope that makes sense

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09-12-2006 11:49 AM  14 years ago
frebou

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What I was talking about that could maybe be implemented as a Visio template is called "Aresti".

It certainly has many figure that are mostly airplane, but it sure would give a good idea. Here is a dictionnary of many figures.

Aresti dictionary

They connect them from one to another and draw them on their paper sheet.
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09-13-2006 11:50 PM  14 years ago
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Nice, this would be aswome if someone could incorporate a program like this in a java applet, palm, etc. that one would transport with them that would allow:
1) create on the fly
2) share with others
3) visual way at teach someone new moves
4) etc.

Think of it like heli sheet music.
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