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09-08-2006 05:07 AM  14 years ago
Ringo Ranger

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You Buy
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You Fly
You Crash...

I Love My TREX 600

...No doubt about it...

aloha all,
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09-08-2006 01:11 PM  14 years ago
UltraSeven

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I have a couple of customer like this guy, they pay for a good and cheap product, they implement in the wrong way, then when something happends they blame you, and you have to listen things like "this should be considered", "this is a clear design problem", "Align should put 32 acelerometers in different axes to detect vibrations and tell you where the problem is, and of course include a PC with HMI to see nice pictures of the heli and affected part", and price, not the price should be the same....
Try to repair a main shaft with two pliers is like calibrate a gyro with a hammer.
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09-08-2006 01:47 PM  14 years ago
tungym

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I know that there are lots of man doin business here.
Sorry for stepping on your business of selling Trex.
I know I am in the wrong forum, as did in the Align forum.
Nobody will post any sorts of post-marketing problem there as well.

Thanks for those really concerned and take my words/ advice.
I did check the tail by holding the tail grips and turn the main rotor before the flight. No slips of all sorts.

Sorry for those business man as I am telling the truth.
I know I am no expert comparing with some of you.
Good luck!
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09-08-2006 03:24 PM  14 years ago
JeffM1999

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I highly doubt that anybody that has responded to your thread is affiliated with Align in any way. I certainly am not, just thought that maybe the "Failure" might have been due to shoddy workmanship or poor preflight.
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09-08-2006 03:39 PM  14 years ago
ShellDude

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Heck, I don't even have a 600. I was simply amazed by the two plyers / main shaft "fix".

Nutin personal about it either. I'd be curious to know how well the "fixed" shaft would roll on a flat surface.
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09-08-2006 04:00 PM  14 years ago
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Tungym, I am sorry for your loss and the stupidy of the so called professionals here. I have a oriental friend that doesn't speak very good english and we had the same problem with a 450xx, the preflight checked out, when spooling up the heli rotated on the ground 90*, we stopped to check again, spooling up again the heli rotated again and we found the plastic belt cog on the idler shaft was slipping. A good thing we did not test fly! There are sh!ty parts manufactured from Align and should be corrected by the company. What really gets me is there are still kits out there that are sold as the updated and latest but thats Bull Sh!t. Selling a 430L with a 25 amp esc, SE kits with the sh!ty swash plate, older design tail hub and the list goes on and on. My heart goes out to you and your troubles and hope these posts do not keep you from comming back for information that is relevant to your needs.Ignorance is the absence of facts.Stupid is lacking the intellectual capacity to comprehend the fact
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09-08-2006 04:28 PM  14 years ago
iflybyu77

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TomRex - Those who are selling that 25a/430l are about as shady as it gets. Align doesn't do that. Those resellers are buying the cheapest stuff, and packaging it that way. I've seen the packages those guys are selling, and it is pretty bad. Place that blame where it belongs.

Some parts are poorly designed, some poorly manufactured, and some poorly implemented. It happens.
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09-08-2006 04:49 PM  14 years ago
Jaguar

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i own
a 450se i beat the snot out of it its never been crashed but it's flown very hard and i've haven't had any problems at all i also have 7 nitro heli's i've built many others ANYONE who uses the repair procedures that were used here has NO credability [sorry spelling]even if i did use pliers to straighten a shaft i would'nt admit it to Anyone. building and setup are everything when dealing with heli's you DO NOT yse short cuts or quick fixes you can get someone KILLED that way. sh1t happens when modeling if you cant afford it don't do it if you can then don't blame someone else for bad judgment youed still have it if you would been patient and not given in to peer pressure when your friends said fly it any way you shoult said is this your 1500.00 or mine at stake
Tempest FAI,Stratus,Fury Extreme,Raptor90se,Rex450se,vigor cs, wow I have a real problem
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09-08-2006 09:37 PM  14 years ago
JeffM1999

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stupidy of the so called professionals
You're right, next time I crash, I should probably bend all my shafts back with pliers and call it good. And then when it shakes like an epileptic chicken I will come in here and bash the product. That would make me smarter.
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09-08-2006 09:50 PM  14 years ago
Ticidytoc

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I agree with Rob T.

I see this happen all the time. People have a problem with a heli, get it on the ground and then throw it back up like the problem majically fixed its self while it was on the ground. Never taking the time to look and see what could be causing it.

Good thing spares are cheap.

Or.... maybe Hillbilly Willy is back ? LOL
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09-09-2006 12:10 AM  14 years ago
nivlek

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The main shaft was bent but I fixed it with 2 pliers.
As others have said , that one comment lost all your credability .
At the end of the day , it gets dark .
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09-09-2006 12:49 AM  14 years ago
heliboy1023

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Tungym, I am sorry for your loss and the stupidy of the so called professionals here. I have a oriental friend that doesn't speak very good english and we had the same problem with a 450xx, the preflight checked out, when spooling up the heli rotated on the ground 90*, we stopped to check again, spooling up again the heli rotated again and we found the plastic belt cog on the idler shaft was slipping. A good thing we did not test fly! There are sh!ty parts manufactured from Align and should be corrected by the company. What really gets me is there are still kits out there that are sold as the updated and latest but thats Bull Sh!t. Selling a 430L with a 25 amp esc, SE kits with the sh!ty swash plate, older design tail hub and the list goes on and on. My heart goes out to you and your troubles and hope these posts do not keep you from comming back for information that is relevant to your needs.

Common Sense, Integrity is the key to sucess
3 things.

1. How the hell can you bash align when that was from the first version rex. Plus, 9/10 belt issues are due to USER MISSUSE. I will bet that the belt was either to loose, or tight, and it cause the issue.

2. The poster has no credit at all. He tried to fix a mainshaft with plyers on a 50 size heli. That is asking for it to eat itself to death, and possibly hurt others. Also, the fact he thought the problem just went away proves that he is a noobie when it comes to heli's, and didn't know any better. HE BROUGHT THE CRASH ON BY HIMSELF.

3. All the parts failures, though some align, most can be prevented if there is a known fault. Simply building the kit, and knowing how everything should look/feel, and good pre/post flight checks will find these problems. Also, align doesn't sell the 25amp esc with the 430l. The people who buy them from align, switch out the esc with the 25amp ones.
You know you have to many heli's only when your wallet is empty.
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09-09-2006 07:35 AM  14 years ago
heliflip

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Align does sell the 430L with 25 amp speedo in the 450X(CDE) and both 450XL's(HDE/CDE) as combo
1. [url=http://www.align.com.tw/shop/product_info.php?cPath=22_25&products_id=1147]

2. [url=http://www.align.com.tw/shop/product_info.php?cPath=22_25&products_id=824]

3. [url=http://www.align.com.tw/shop/product_info.php?cPath=22_25&products_id=826]
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09-09-2006 07:52 AM  14 years ago
tungym

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I am certain that the real customer will know the real truth.

I am not talking about the "secret" vendors, business man, experts that "upgrade" their bird right out of the box , and those receiving sponsorship or associates.

DO not pick on a few unimportant points and attacking me like crazy.

We do feel shame that this forum really have good "customer" care....

If you can read chinese or use altavista translation, please visit the official Align forum and you can see 9 out of the 10 "complains" or suggestion for improvement are deleted by the webmaster.
http://www.align.com.tw/disbb/index.php
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09-09-2006 07:59 AM  14 years ago
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http://www.align.com.tw/disbb/viewt...&extra=page%3D4

also read this thread before it was deleted..

Some user in Taiwan also have crash due to melting of the original blue battery plugs.

Come on, I know this is the user's fault again.
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09-09-2006 08:01 AM  14 years ago
tungym

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Or another "expert" will tell us.. Oh , I must have change all battery plugs right from the beginning. So this must be the customer's fault again.
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09-09-2006 08:05 AM  14 years ago
ShellDude

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I know this is pushing it, but tungym, you can bite me. Do a search here, you'll find I do plenty of Align bashing.

I ask one thing of you... and one thing only. Take your fixed main shaft and remove it from your heli. Then on a flat surface (like a glass table) roll it across that table and tell me how well it rolls.

A single wobble and it's game over.

/unsubscribed
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09-09-2006 12:06 PM  14 years ago
tungym

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Thanks shell, that is my routine for every minor crash.
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09-09-2006 02:51 PM  14 years ago
JeffM1999

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But the fact remains that you lifted the bird off again, knowing something was not right, and then it crashed. And now you are bashing Align. Doesn't make sense to me.
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09-09-2006 03:13 PM  14 years ago
iflybyu77

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!!!!!!!!!!WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!

This helicopter is UNSAFE! I think we should ground the WHOLE FLEET! Clearly there are major defects that no other manufacturer has, and this POS is going to kill someone!

Sound familiar?

Oh, I'll be outside flying my 600 if anyone needs me.

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