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09-07-2006 02:34 AM  14 years ago
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Anyone tried the real thing?
Just out of curiousity, has anyone ever become a full sized heli pilot after being an RC heli pilot? do you think your RC experience helped you learn to fly the full size thing faster? alot faster?
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09-07-2006 02:47 AM  14 years ago
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I've looked into it. The full scale helis cost a LOT to train on - so funding holds me back.

However, talking to several instructors, they all told me that yes, having the concepts down from flying a model heli would help. Especially if you really understand the principles of how a heli operates - aerodynamically.

How much it is actually going to help is very dependant on the person. After all, the controls have moved to different parts of your body, namely the rudder pedals.

Then there is the fear aspect of it - how well a person controls their anxiety. Now crashing means HUGE money and likely your life!

It sure won't hurt to have RC experience, but you are most certainly not going to be flying around on your own the first day!!

Plus, you've got to learn flight patterns, aircraft rules, airport rules, how to use the radio, navigation, etc.
You fly...you crash...it's life
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09-07-2006 02:50 AM  14 years ago
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it does help because the dynamic is the same, so your brain knows how to control the heli, and how the heli will react to different things.

most rc pilots that ive heard/ talked to could hover the real thing within the first hour or 2, which is no small feat.
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09-07-2006 02:56 AM  14 years ago
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Not heli's, but I earned my fixed wing private pilot license in 1978. My many years of flying fixed wing R/C gave me a good understanding of control functions. I actually found flying the full-sized aircraft to be easier than the R/C models.

I went on to earn my SEL and SES ratings and even added some glider time. Aircraft that I've piloted include Cessna models 150, 152, 172 (my favorite), and 182. Piper models J3 (what a fun little plane!), Super Cub, Pacer, and Tri-Pacer. Water flight was in a Lake 250 amphibian. Biplane time was limited to a Boeing Kaydet (Stearman). Ultralight time was logged in a Weedhopper and an Eipper MX3. I also have time in three glider types, but I don't remember the models and I'm too lazy to dig out my logbooks.

Unfortunately, full-contact karate competition in 1996 resulted in a closed-head brain injury. This injury disqualifies me from passing the required pilot's medical exam. So my solo piloting days are over.

My wife got me involved in R/C heli's as a way of bringing flight back into my life. It's also helped to improve and build my hand-eye coordination. I've progressed with my Blade CP and HoneyBee CP2 to the point of hovering in all orientations, forward flight, forward rolls, stationary flips, and almost a loop. we currently have a T-Rex 450 SE on order, so I'm starting to climb up the heli ladder.

There is life, and a quality life at that, possible after some brain injuries. Originally, my wife was told I would not survive, and if I did, I'd be a veggie. I've proved all the docs wrong. The only two that believed in me were my primary care doc and the neurologist that took over my case when others said it was hopeless.
Gerry Cullan,
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09-07-2006 03:05 AM  14 years ago
AussiJohn

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I am getting there, have fixed wing license, and aerobatics rating because its cheaper to "Learn" how to fly in a plane, then finish off with a heli and the minimum hours required.

I am still a few years off the heli though.

I started the RC after I got my PPL. And it is definately harder to fly RC. Real planes you can feel, the only feeling you get in RC is ya pucker tightening when you dumb thumb it.

Ther are a few Heli pilots here though on Runryder
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09-07-2006 03:08 AM  14 years ago
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09-07-2006 04:29 AM  14 years ago
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gmcullan,

WOW....what a story. It's great to hear that you didn't let those doctors bring you down.

If you can do all the things you listed, I'd say your hand-eye coordination is pretty good at this point.

Congrats MAN!

Didn't mean to hijack the thread.....
Ouch! That ground hurts!!
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09-07-2006 04:34 AM  14 years ago
Jim Patterson

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Definitly helps. I've heard and read several accounts of this. I have wanted to get my rotor rating for some time now, but as said above lots of money. About 5K minimum. Maybe someday.Highly addicted to carbon fiber.....
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09-07-2006 05:06 AM  14 years ago
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Ask Alan Jr. about this, He got both his fixed wing and rotor license a couple of years ago. My understand is he flew (no pun intended) through his training.

Rick
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09-07-2006 05:14 AM  14 years ago
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I'm currently working on my fixed wing and plan to do rotory eventually. it costs quite a bit more then 5k to do your rotory. your looking at more like 8-12k if you can do it near the minimum. if you already have your fixed wing ppl you have to have 30 hours minimum. I went up for my first heli ride in an r22 a couple months ago and vow to get my rotory license now.Justin - Team Horizon, Team Byron
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09-07-2006 06:32 AM  14 years ago
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I hovered a nice eurocopter after only a couple minutes on the sticks and pedals, even asked if i could land it.

That isn't to say RC will make you an instant pilot, if someone tossed me the keys and said go fly.. i wouldn't have a clue how to get it all going right.
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09-07-2006 09:55 AM  14 years ago
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I've flown RC since 1985, RC Helis for about a year. In 1998 I briefly stopped RC flying to start training to become a professional pilot. I made it to the airlines by 2001 and now have over 5000 hours. The RC experience definitely helped. I recently did a helicopter discovery flight and my knowledge of RC helis made a huge difference. For me the biggest problem is cost. Just adding a private helicopter rating to my liscense will cost over 10,000 so it's not really worth it. But I can than the RC industry for helping me achieve a dream career.The best way to make a small fortune in RC Helis is to start out with a large one. Debt from above!
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09-07-2006 10:40 AM  14 years ago
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i had a go in ermstron (i think that is the name)

as i have been flying RC, i would say it deffinatly helps, as on the Rc i was always taught not to make big stick movements, and when i held the cyclic i was hardly moving it, but i was gripping it with both hands and my knuckles were white lol,but that oculd have also been due to having no dorrs on the machine, and i was looking out as we banked down 1000ft to cliffs and sea.
but i managed to hover it 12 ft and i took over only on the cyclic in fast forward flight, lovely experience, i would love to take it up but all i have heard is bad news about hellie pilots, jobs are few and far between, one instructor in uk said 67% of pilots after passing thier test never fly again, cos they cannot get a job flying as most are EX military, and most will never be able afford to buy one and keep it running.i woud love to fly the EC135 for a police force as the spy in the sky, but most of them are ex RAF pilots.

And in speaking to a few hellies both here abroad most would agree, some have go into flying as a chauffer for massive comapnies but the hours are long and they treated as a taxi boy,told to be a certain place for a certain time and it neds up being away from home for 3 weeks , and he had to beon call 24/7 for $35,000. i think here in the uK most are on around 28-35K that to me doesnt warrent the investmant in obtaining a license.but if you love flying and have no family commitments then for some it is the life they want.
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09-07-2006 10:44 AM  14 years ago
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I had a go in an R22 back in may, training in the UK is so expensive at around £240ph ($440), i'm currently studying and working my way through the ppl exams at the moment and will then come over to the USA to do the flight training as its less than half price on that side of the pondRe-entering the atmosphere...
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09-07-2006 12:07 PM  14 years ago
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I had a go at hovering in an Army Gazelle about 20ft off the ground. It was a bit wobbly at the start but
I managed to get it into a steady(ish) hover. The instructor did not believe I had never had any instruction before. There is a photo in my gallery of me concentrating very hard while just flying straight and level Im sure I was even more serious while trying the hover.
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09-07-2006 12:46 PM  14 years ago
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I have been flying the real heli's for about 16 years,started flying them at age 15. I have been flying rc heli's for about 4 years and flying the real thing did help fly the rc heli's
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09-07-2006 12:58 PM  14 years ago
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I have had my commercial fixed wing since 1987. I have about 10 hours in full scale with an instructor...he was very good friend of mine. I think learning to fly the rc version helped me a great deal with the full size. IMO flying rc's was much harder to learn than the real dealGas is Great
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09-07-2006 01:01 PM  14 years ago
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I have been flying rc heli's for about 4 years and flying the real thing did help fly the rc heli's
Now that's a twist in for this thread!
You fly...you crash...it's life
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09-07-2006 02:27 PM  14 years ago
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I have been flying rc heli's for about 4 years and flying the real thing did help fly the rc heli's
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Now that's a twist in for this thread!
Not so much, physics is physics Airflow, aerodynamics and the effects of control inputs effect the flight characteristics the same wether it be full size or model RC, knowing what to expect as a result of a given input is a large part of RC flying
Re-entering the atmosphere...
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09-07-2006 02:46 PM  14 years ago
shuttlepilot

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I think the largest difference between real and rc is perspective. In full scale you see from the 1st person. RC is from third person, that is where the challenge comes in. You have to use your "minds eye" when it comes to rc.Gas is Great
Camper Fuel is Better!!
QWW Helis
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