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09-06-2006 01:40 AM  14 years ago
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Alan Szabo Sr (RIP)

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Citation landing downwind then in the water. Then it starts by itself.
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09-06-2006 02:31 AM  14 years ago
wurthless

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Dat wuzz pretty wildQUICK! ,,,can someone turn the gravity off for just a second,,,,
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09-06-2006 02:44 AM  14 years ago
GimbalFan (RIP)

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That's a comedy and a tragedy -- too fine a machine to have become the sad victim of pilot error. A downwind landing in poor visiblity -- deet dee-dee.op-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-t
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09-06-2006 04:54 AM  14 years ago
Jerry Sudimick

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Outstanding. I love Atlantic City. Let's all go there this weekend and see what else happens - shall we?

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09-06-2006 06:33 AM  14 years ago
fitenfyr

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OH MY GOSH!

Now if they would only give out Darwin awards to LIVE people.

I really want to know if somebody was actually in that thing.
I find it hard to believe (even water logged) that the engine could start, flame out, start again then go to full power in a controlled fashing without some "person" working the controls.

I was over at Airliners.net and I guess that company has a long history of "issues".
The new plane the replaced this one with's tail number is OY-WET.
No kidding.
Jason Stiffey
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09-06-2006 03:06 PM  14 years ago
merlin3

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lol that is hilarious
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09-08-2006 03:22 AM  14 years ago
airmarshalg

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Fitenfyr,

I think the FADEC may have been the "pilot"-yes, it's possible, I don't know the airplane, though.

During flameout, the FADEC will relight and if it has A/T (autothrottles) this is what you get-

Greg
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09-09-2006 04:46 PM  14 years ago
wurthless

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What is FADEC????QUICK! ,,,can someone turn the gravity off for just a second,,,,
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09-09-2006 05:09 PM  14 years ago
fitenfyr

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I see that now.
I was reading that in another forum after I posted here.
Never occured to me that the FADEC electronics would be in the tail.
Makes sense.

Still poor piloting though.

I can say this that FADEC sure did a nice job of running that engine.

FADEC: Fully Automated Digital Engine Control.
Fly by wire for your engine.
It takes a big portion of the workload off the pilot of a turbine engine aircraft.
Controls the fuel flow, automates the startup/shutdown and a lot more.
Jason Stiffey
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09-09-2006 07:27 PM  14 years ago
mattie-lodge

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Full Authority Digital Engine Control

Sorry to slit hairs
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09-09-2006 10:00 PM  14 years ago
fitenfyr

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Slit away...
I was "flying by wire" on that definition anyhow.
Too lazy to look it up and went from memory.
Jason Stiffey
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09-09-2006 10:13 PM  14 years ago
airmarshalg

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Yes, FADEC makes your life a little easier from start to shutdown-it pretty much does the thinking for you. It won't let you start the engine if ITT and N1 are out of spec. It also re-lights inflight for you. Since the airplane was floating, the weight-on-wheels sensor may have been unware of the aircraft's circumstances!

Setting power is very simple with the system, you move the thrust lever to a detent for T/O and then out for climb, however, it adjusts power automatically in the climb segment using digital, real-time schedule data-(it knows exactly where N1/N2/Engine Pressure Ratio (EPR) should be.

Hope this helps,

Greg
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