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09-10-2006 01:51 AM  14 years ago
RC FlyingFlo

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Hi,

You said, you wanted Analogs, right ? I fly Futaba 9206 on Pitch and cyclic, metal gears, and no slop at all using them 2 seasons now (appr 70 l of fuel on TT50, now OS Hyper)
They may be slower, but are rock solid!

For my next bird I plan to use Futaba 9451 digis on cyclic and pitch, just because my flying skills get slightly better, and speedier servos would help the fun factor. I don´t want to experiment with quality, so I choose Futaba.
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09-10-2006 01:14 PM  14 years ago
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I don´t want to experiment with quality, so I choose Futaba.
thats funny

Roamer:

Its quite simple, a weekend flying to the average pilot would probably cost 2 gallons of fuel, two nights out drinking would usually cost way more than that. I have friends who spend in excess of £100 over a weekend drinking and think nothing of it. Yet they say I am crazy to spend £17 on a gallon of fuel.

Of course a crash would total the bill up somewhat hence the ending to the signature of heli crashing costs money.

Kasama Head :(
The Blingiest DOWNGRADE a Raptor can have
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09-10-2006 04:44 PM  14 years ago
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arceye,

What I was hinting at is that crashing causes heli flying to be much more expensive than just flying and crashing causes the weekend drinking to end up costing a LOT more than expected as well!

And I've had friends that could go out on the weekends and drop 1/4 of there pay check on booze as well. Each and every weekend. And THEY wondered why I could afford to do the things I did! (I don't drink)

firefox,

Good info on the shipping scam at Realraptors. I'll double check this, but if it is true, then I'm going to write them off my list. I can't stand companies that play games with shipping and handling just so they can advertise the lowest prices.
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09-10-2006 09:42 PM  14 years ago
arceye

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Roamer:

Sorry I missunderstood what you were getting at but as for the crashing I quite agree that was the reason for the "heli crashing costs money" bit on the end which then possible leads to a weekend drinking bill to go even higher


Andy

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09-10-2006 11:08 PM  14 years ago
TonyTypeS

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I seen the 9252 servo on a 60 today and wow was it fast. It's way faster than my standard servo. Lets say about 3x and it centered really great. It made the 60 seemed like a 90 size heli. I guess it's time for me to do a servo upgrade.
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09-12-2006 10:54 PM  14 years ago
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In case anyone's wondering about the real cheap prices on the S9252 quoted above, I just did a bit of checking. The price at Realraptors.com is indeed $59.99, but you have to pay $9 shipping *per item* for UPS ground (the only choice for these blowout items), for a grand total of $68.99 each.
Good info on the shipping scam at Realraptors. I'll double check this, but if it is true, then I'm going to write them off my list. I can't stand companies that play games with shipping and handling just so they can advertise the lowest prices.
Hi Guys
sorry i dont under stand the posts, we dont sell Futaba S9252's servos, and whats the shipping scam?

realraptors.co.uk and realraptors.com are one website based in the UK, and dont use UPS ground or UPS at all

Andy
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09-12-2006 11:04 PM  14 years ago
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My post was for the onlyraptors <dot> com sale price for 9252's. I think the other posts were simply mis-typed references to onlyraptor's sale.

btw- I would bet that if you called onlyratpors they'll only charge a single shipping fee for an entire purchase, otherwise their written policy doesn't make sense. This was probably written by someone who doesn't speak English as a primary lanquage:


"
****HOW TO QUALIFY FOR PROMOTIONAL PRICING****

Due to the pricing being so low, we cannot ship any of the items for free for orders over $100 as we usually do. We can only ship the following items via UPS ground. The cost to ship each item is $9. We suggest ordering multiple items at one time. In order to get the items and pricing listed below, please send an email to promotions@hobb-e-ventures.com with the subject as "Blowout Sale." In your email state the item you're interested, quantity, and your phone number. We will call you to complete the transaction. If you have PayPal include your PayPal address and we'll send you an invoice.
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09-12-2006 11:14 PM  14 years ago
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Andy ( Realraptors.co/co.uk)

Unfortunately the site being refered to was actually OnlyRaptors not realraptors
Futaba 9252 - $65.99 Heliproz (Not advertised)
- $59.95 OnlyRaptors
As stated by jschenck

But it looks like firefox by mistake used the wrong name of RealRaptors instead of Onlyraptors which is what probably caused the confusion.

I can personally say that your service ( realraptors.co.uk ) is second to none in fact as an example I ordered some green paddles from you and as they were not sent out by you accidently ( they were overlooked my mistake ) I then contacted you to ask where they were and after the mistake had been explained they were then sent out to me recorded delivery at no cost. ( That is what I call service ).


Andy

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09-13-2006 05:56 PM  14 years ago
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Use Futabas. Quality matters. Hitec have great specs - on paper.Thor
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09-13-2006 08:27 PM  14 years ago
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Use Futabas. Quality matters. Hitec have great specs - on paper.

Thor
The specs are real. Been using them for 5 years now and NEVER had an issue to date.
No doubt the others are great if you get the correct model for your use. Get the wrong servo for the job and your flying will suffer for it.

This ain't rocket science.
Nolan
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09-14-2006 05:15 AM  14 years ago
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I have a raptor 50 titan with 9252,s except for throtle (9202 I know its slow) and tail (9254). My heli flies great and I would say it is very stable.. and smooth

If at first you don't succeed... Spend MORE money and TRY again!!!
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09-14-2006 06:27 AM  14 years ago
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Dont buy hitec there junk
Keep your opinion to yourself buddy....

Hitec is cheaper, stronger, faster and can work on 6V.

I have 6965s in both my ships and people were amased at how fast the heli reacted (0.08 speed). And most of all, NO SLOP.

Somebody mentioned that the gears don't hold well if you fly 3D. Thats is the most silly comment I've read in a while! You need to get of your house more often buddy.....

And FYI, from the 10 servos I bought in 1 year, two had a problem and guess what, they were both Futaba.
George
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09-14-2006 07:26 AM  14 years ago
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I'm using a lot of small Hitec servos, the 65 in my Trex f.ex. Great servo. I would go for Futaba on the 50's and up.

The cost is not much higher.

As of running of 6v. The only thing you do is drain the battery a lot faster. And the 401 gyro does not handle 6v.
Thor
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09-14-2006 07:31 AM  14 years ago
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The only thing you do is drain the battery a lot faster.
Somebody told you that or its your own conclusion?
401 gyro does not handle 6v.
yes it does.... the servo (9254) cannot handle the 6V. Read the manual.
George
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09-14-2006 12:02 PM  14 years ago
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There are some hilarious comments in this thread...
Most of which relate to duff information.
To say that Hitec and Futaba Servos are CRAP is unnecessary, it doesn't help the poster and it is untrue.

I run a Raptor 30, 3xR50's and a R90 and use HITEC/FUTABA/JR and ACE servos and i don't think any of these servos are crap.

I have had three servos fail all Futaba 2x9254's and a 9450. but i don't think there CRAP and i still use Futaba Servos, those three failures could have been in bad batches or i may have used them in the wrong application.

As the original post was referring to 50 size servos then i can comment on my experience, with some useful information

Two of my 50's are equipped the same in terms of engine blades ETC, but run different servos.

R50 No:3 uses Regulated (5.1v) JR8231 on cyclic and 8411 on collective. these servo are very precise and smooth with excellent centering dead-band and resolution. but quite slow.

R50 No:1 uses Regulated (6v) HS6965 on cyclic and DS1015 on collective. The collective and cyclic is notably faster. although the 6965'S are fast they don't centre as well and appear to be course in terms of resoloution, also the deadband is a bit to high.

Both helicopters fly very well, but No:3 feels more precise.
No:1 is very lively and the extra speed of the 6965's is obvious.

I had a 6965 on the collective, but it felt a little wooly so i replaced it with a DS1015, and again the extra power was obvious.

Also none of my heli's use more than 150 mah's per 8 minute flight.

I feel the Hitec servos have the benefit of being competitevly priced with a good range, most of which except 6V'S.

So i think that the right servos in the right places and to suit different flying styles is the only debate.

Colin.
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09-14-2006 12:05 PM  14 years ago
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6965'S are fast they don't centre as well and appear to be course in terms of resoloution, also the deadband is a bit to high.
I haven't notice that but I was told that with a hitec programmer I can reduce the deadband.
George
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09-14-2006 12:11 PM  14 years ago
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Yes, somebody told me that.... Its a fact that 6v drains the battery quicker.

Wonder why people feel the strong need to go in defence on Hitec equipment.

Had a glitcy Hitec reciever one time. That was enough Hitec rx-testing for me. Never going to buy a Hitec tx/rx again
Thor
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09-14-2006 12:49 PM  14 years ago
gkoutsis

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Ok.... it can happen.

I would suggest to give Hitec servos one more try though. You might like them
George
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09-14-2006 12:55 PM  14 years ago
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Also none of my heli's use more than 150 mah's per 8 minute flight.
I am not sure how you can only use that much. I have tried to reduce the consumption of battery usage and still seem to use around 300 for 8 min of flight


If at first you don't succeed... Spend MORE money and TRY again!!!
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09-14-2006 01:05 PM  14 years ago
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Mine draws arround 1amp per 10mins. (4x6965,9254/401,GV1,PCM)

The 50 is slightly more, arround 1.2 I would say.
George
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