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09-05-2006 07:28 PM  14 years ago
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snoo

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help with hover on sims
been advised to fly a sim 1st and am using Real Flight G3
with dominion 3d
can yous guys realy hover these over a fixed spot
all I can manage is to keep the thing within a 2 mt radius
is it just practice [megga hrs or what] or should I just stick to f3A
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09-05-2006 09:00 PM  14 years ago
Tigerclaw

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Dunno about G3, but in Reflex that's how I started In time you learn to predict what the heli will do and counter it before it happens. You'll notice, over time, that the area will get smaller and smaller. I'm by no means good, but I can now keep it to within a 2 foot area, and keep it steady in one spot for mere seconds at a time.

Bare in mind they say the sim is harder than a real heli

Good luck, just keep practicing. Oh and don't forget to take regular breaks. Think about what you just did, and then go back 1/2 hour later. Don't be sitting on the sim all day long and expect to get better. Learn in little chunks

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09-05-2006 09:06 PM  14 years ago
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Keep training, over and over again, until you puke at it

When you can hold it steady with the tail in, start with the side towards you (begin with 45degrees, then progress to full 90degrees when you feel secure with 45degrees), note that if you are right-handed, it will be easier with the nose of the heli pointing left.
(if you left handed its the opposite)

Then finally progress to nose in hover (nose pointing towards you)

When you start flying real RC helicopters its up to you, but the earlier you start with real heli's (if you dont buddyboxing with a friend) the more it will cost you...

However, the key is to try to hover at the same spot which you decide at start, not hover wherever the heli stopped (you must control the heli, not the other way around).
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09-05-2006 10:39 PM  14 years ago
icepirate

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Very good advice! I would like to add that try to make small movements when correcting. Have you tried flying any of the other heli's on G3? Take the Huey or any of the other smaller heli's out, as they are not as responsive. The Dominion is a blast to fly, but is VERY responsive, so you might be a little above your skill level. Master hovering with different heli's, then move back to the Dominion and you will be suprised how much better you are.

The sim is an invaluable tool so keep up with practicing on it whenever you can. What I do is practice what I need to advance for about an hour, then fart around doing 3D for whatever time I have left. Try not to get burnt out on it by practicing all the time. Give yourself some time to mess around on it as well. That should keep it fun for you.

Hope this helps!!

Rick
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09-06-2006 12:49 AM  14 years ago
flycatch

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If you use the stock transmitter that comes with the G3 you probably won't be able to hover in one spot for more that a few seconds. The gimbal assemblies are too stiff/tight in there stock configuration. works fine in forward flight.
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09-06-2006 01:28 AM  14 years ago
icepirate

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I have had no problems with the stock controler for G3, and I have been able to hover tail in with any heli within a one to two foot block. You are the first I have ever heard mention this, so you might want to have your controler looked at.

Rick
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09-06-2006 02:35 AM  14 years ago
702nitro

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notched?
You also might want to take out the notches on the throttle/collective stick on your G3 controller. I noticed that when i was learning to hover on the sim, the notches really made it more difficult to keep the heli leveled. After I took the notches off, hovering was easier and smoother.

To take the notches out, open your controller and if you look carefully you'll see a silver tab pressed against a gear wheel. Unscrew it, flip the tab over and screw it back on.
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09-06-2006 02:35 AM  14 years ago
VT Fly Girl

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I started with the G2, and now I have the G3. Both are very good sim's. It does get frustrating trying to get the thing to hover in one spot, but like everyone said, it will get easier the more you practice. Don't give up. Yes the sim is harder then the real thing, but the real thing won't rebuild itself after a crash. So by all means, Practice. Good luck, LoriPurring like a kitty, but flying with the Tigers!!! Yeah Baby! Lori
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09-06-2006 03:00 AM  14 years ago
gusthepickle

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send me a pm with your name, ill get you into a room and help you around, the dominion is a really 3d machine, try the impala .30 and the training one also.

might help to turn dual rates off

i am a boulderite
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09-06-2006 03:29 AM  14 years ago
rf_reggie

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What Gus said
The dominion's cyclic is too sensitive even when pulling the low rate switch (above throttle). Start with the easy one, Impala Trainer with the training sticks.

You can also slow the sim down by adjusting the "physics" in the setup menu as explained in the manual.
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09-06-2006 06:44 PM  14 years ago
snoo

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many thanks to all, will try all your advice given.
will get back to you if still having problems
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09-06-2006 07:21 PM  14 years ago
gusthepickle

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send me a pm with a name and time we could make a room and i can help you
i am a boulderite
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09-07-2006 02:09 PM  14 years ago
cudaboy_71

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also remember if you're planning on moving on to a micro or mini electric, the dominion is WAY more stable.

as long as you're in the learning stages, you might as well learn on the model you'll actually be flying (or a rendering of one that is closer than a high-performance 3D 90 machine).

you can download t-rex models from trex-tuning (scroll down the page) that you can load right into G3. get flying well on that model and you'll be ready to hover out a few packs on a real heli when the day comes.
if it ain't broke, break it.
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09-11-2006 04:50 AM  14 years ago
otscay

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Hovering with Real Flight G3
Try flying the Bell Heli(not the scale head) in your G3 sim. It's a very stable Heli to learn your sticks with. The bigger the bird, the less twitchy they are. The Bell is no 3D machine but it's fun to fly while learning all forms of flight.Don't forget, you can go into your sim and adjust the head speeds. When I fly the Impala Trainer or the Dominion I've gone from very low to very high head speeds and the training results are great. You should be able maintain a STEADY hover and make spot landings with little difficulity. It takes ALOT OF PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09-12-2006 12:21 AM  14 years ago
Yug

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However unstable it might seem, practice practice practice practice until it comes good. Some folk achieve a stable hover in their 1st flight, and some take dozens or even 100s of flights before it's stable.Vegetable rights and Peace
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