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09-06-2006 08:14 AM  14 years ago
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I just wonder, who is going to do the work these mexicans do when you have shut down the border, are you guys going to or are you just going to sit around whining about it not being done ?
Who did them before huh? Plenty of americans did. They have come in such outlandish numbers they have driven down wages below the poverty line. Real Americans cant live on the wage they get, you see real Americans have to pay taxes, car insurance, health insurance, etc. You cant do that on 6$ an hour. impossible. They can though, they geat all the above mentioned for FREE. And on top of that get handouts like welfare. You have no idea what you are talking about here Tintin, this is soley America's problem, but out.
Would you like to work at McDo? Me neither...
if I was being paid well, sure. Now being payed a wetbacks salary, hell no, I simply couldn't survive. You see your on the bandwagon of "Americans wont do that job" The end of that sentence that everyone always fails to complete is....for that wage. There are plenty of middle to lower class families that would gladly take up these jobs, fact is they dont even speak the language anymore! Much less could they survive on the wage being given. And I'm all for punishing those who hire illegals. If they like the illegals so much they should be deported with them.
Timing is everything
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09-06-2006 08:23 AM  14 years ago
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It isn't being paid well so then, why not go to McDo or whoever is employing these people and tell them to raise the wages because you want take a job with them?

I dunno, but what you are willing to pay for a burger might have something to do with it combined with the fact that the americans that own the chain want to make as much money as possible.

Fact stands, if US citizens didn't employ them there is no reason for coming so why not go to the root of the problem instead of shooting at the messenger who is only trying to survive. Easier to whine about mexicans than McDo and the authorities isn't it?
If you should whine about american companies and authorities that might indicate all isn't as well as you'd like to portray it to be...
“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”
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09-06-2006 08:34 AM  14 years ago
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Just shows how very little you understand about the issue. Here you go again working off of the VERY little facts you have at your disposal. I know that for a fact on this one, you havent a clue of what's going on! You ever had your country invaded my a bunch of mexicans? I think not, here we go with mr. sideline expert. Don't you have anytning better to do than belittle America?Timing is everything
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09-06-2006 08:47 AM  14 years ago
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How little you know, must be the knowitall age.
We have had the same "problem" with Pakistani immigrants for more than 30 years and done many of the same errors, so yes I in fact know first hand what it is all about. Now it's the East-Europeans that come and take all the jobs the Norwegains won't do as it's not well enough paid....but than, that is happening outside the US and then you don't have a clue, yet you want to battle your wars outside the US...go home...

I do not think you are the right one to whine about belitteling.....you are quite good at that game, I'm just learning...

Don't you have anything better to do than spreading your right wing theories on the net?
“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”
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09-06-2006 08:57 AM  14 years ago
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American problem, American thread, how many millions of illegals have you dealt with, they taken over scores of large cities in your country? I think not. Here you go with your anti-america crap. Lucky your government doesnt have beef with us, you may actually have to fight us instead of just criticizing, i'd love to see that one.
Don't you have anything better to do than spreading your right wing theories on the net?
Dont see how speaking the truth makes me a right winger, but no at this hour there isn't much else to do, but runryder and Reflex. But here you go again de-railing the topic. I believe it is about what to do with the illegal immigration problem here in America, atleast that is my understanding after speaking to jimco. Being you dont live here or know what the hell youre talking about why are you subscribed to the topic?
Timing is everything
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09-06-2006 09:00 AM  14 years ago
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Speaking your version of the "truth" makes you a right winger. Luckily your solutions will never be applied..

You don't like it when people don't yapp with you do you?
When they don't shut up when you tell them to?
Makes you feel insignificant doesn't it, knowing you cannot do anything about it but whine ?

Jimco said nothing about it being solely an American problem so here I am again....
“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”
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09-06-2006 10:56 AM  14 years ago
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Americas immigration problem is home grown. Started with cheap farm labor, now extends thru-out our economy. Only way to control it is to punish the guy that hires em.Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again
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09-06-2006 11:01 AM  14 years ago
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We can certainly agree on that one Jimco. “Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”
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09-06-2006 12:30 PM  14 years ago
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Take a read of this I think this is how it should be!

Three Cheers For Australia
> Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
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>A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crack down.
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>Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament.
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>"If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on
>national television.
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>"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.
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>Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country.
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>Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that
>Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off".
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>"Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off,"he said.
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>Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agency's monitoring the nation's mosques.
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>AMERICA , Britain and Canada...ARE YOU LISTENING?
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>Quote:
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>IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.
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>Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.
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>However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.
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>I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia.
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>However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.
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>This idea of Australia being a multi cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle.
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>This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, Learn the language!
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>Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing,
>political push but a fact because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, Because God is part of our culture.
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>We will accept your beliefs and will not question why, all we ask is that you accept ours and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.
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>If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.
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>We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means keep your culture but do not force it on others.
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>This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this.
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>But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, "THE RIGHT TO LEAVE".
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>If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.
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>Pretty easy really, when you think about it. I figure if we all keep passing
>this to our friends (and enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to the complainers, lets all try, please.
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> PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE, PERHAPS WE CAN CREATE A GROUND SWELL AND SEND OUR POLITICIANS THE MESSAGE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF US BELIEVE AS THE AUSSIES DO.........
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09-06-2006 12:48 PM  14 years ago
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Well said....“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”
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09-06-2006 01:08 PM  14 years ago
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DJTILKO

OUTSTANDING!!!!!!
Have you ever considered running for president of the USA?
If only half of your "letter" were enacted, our country would definetly be better off!
Brian Porter AMA 232513 My money flies better then I do
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09-06-2006 01:17 PM  14 years ago
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I don't think that was his words, it's a quote....“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”
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09-06-2006 01:27 PM  14 years ago
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No its not my quote but Ive been saying the same things and more on here so can I still run for President?

Dave
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09-06-2006 03:21 PM  14 years ago
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you have my vote Dave, and many others I'm sure!
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09-06-2006 09:26 PM  14 years ago
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If you sought to envoke a 1/3 of that list you've got my vote. WE really do need to wake up, we worry so much aout offending others and their cultures, that we just hand them our country. WE have to change even though its OUR country, sickening.Timing is everything
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09-07-2006 12:49 AM  14 years ago
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BumpHoney, where's the check book, it's Fedex again
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09-07-2006 04:30 AM  14 years ago
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The sad thing is OUR government would never attempt this .
We don't have leaders ,only politicians.
Their only concern is to get elected.
At this point in time their main goal is to appease the anchor babys
A problem created by them in the first place.
Now they come off with we cant deport 12million ( its really 30million)wheres my compassion ?
Gone It's all gone
Because the government made a promise to me in 86 and then betrayed me.
Now they say that since we condoned it, we are all responsible.
Where do they get that we S$%t ?

It was You Corporate America
It was YOU corrupt elected officials
Now you lie again with your appeasing BS saying you are doing whats best.

I know you wont fix it and when we toss you out ,the replacements wont either.
So if playing by the rules don't work ,whats next?
History always repeats itself,always.

Dave
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in mexifornia
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09-07-2006 04:37 AM  14 years ago
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Yet another online petition
http://www.liddyshow.us/signup.php
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09-07-2006 04:39 AM  14 years ago
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I'm with you 100%. I will not vote for an incumbent in this next election. Hell , if Jesse, or Al run, I will probably vote form em. At least you know what to expect. These clowns that we have now, no way, nothing but dollare chasers. And yes, I am East Texas Red Neck to the bone, but something has to change , this is not My America. Was not raised on this BS that we get fed.Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again
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09-07-2006 04:43 AM  14 years ago
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Just signed up for the liddy deal, hell, I think he should run for pres. Beat the shi* out of what we have now.Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again
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