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09-05-2006 01:33 AM  14 years ago
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xcellflyer

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Car Stereo Help
Hey Guys,

Im trying to install a Kenood cd player (kdc-4009)in my dads old geo prizm ('93) and it doesnt seem to power up. is there anyway other way top check if the player is still working..ive attached the positive and negative wire to two 12V batteries and still nothing?? am i doing something wrong?? my friend just gave it to me and said it worked but i dont know. so if anyone has any advice on testing the player or installing it, or both, just let me know! Thanks alot everyone!
Deadstick: Two of these can be found on a transmitter that has been inproperly charged.
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09-05-2006 01:37 AM  14 years ago
Topher

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You wont get anything from the player if it isnt receiver an ignition signal. Try setting that line high and see if it works.
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09-05-2006 01:55 AM  14 years ago
xcellflyer

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THanks for the response but can you possibly put that in lamens terms...lol im still learning all this stuff...thanks again!Deadstick: Two of these can be found on a transmitter that has been inproperly charged.
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09-05-2006 02:00 AM  14 years ago
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There may be a second lead that needs +12V.

I think it may be a yellow wire.

One wire is for memory and the other one powers up the radio and the black wire is the ground.
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09-05-2006 02:55 AM  14 years ago
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Every stereo is a little different. I happen to have a Kenwood in my car, cant remember the model but its silver and has a removable face. On mine there is a commen ground(black), +12v(red), ignition(blue), amp-on(blue/white), antenna(white), and then the 4 channels for the speakers which are rainbow of colors. First try giveing the stereo 12v, if it has a removable face the CD eject button should flash red with the face down. If that happens then chances are the thing works and its just hooked up wrong. Usually for the stereo to function, as in have the display work, you need power(12v and ground) along with the ignition signal which I believe is 12 as well. I would start with 5 and if that doesnt work try bumping up the voltage. What wire diagram are you using? Also retail stores make stereo installs easy with premade harnesses. They're not the nicest but they work for medicore quality.
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09-05-2006 02:56 AM  14 years ago
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red fused wire to 12v.
Black to ground
yellow fused wire to 12v. ignition.
Ignore the blue fused wire. It will not be used for that application.
{it is for a power ant. or amp output}
If you are using a aftermarket factory wire harness {like the one from Metra} to tap into the harness on the neon, you will need to use a differant ground then the one the origanial factory radio uses. In other words, find a good ground on the chassis behind the radio, tap into it, and use it as ground instead of the factory harrness ground.

If you do use the factory ground, when you turn the lights on, it reversise polarity and will at minimum blow a fuse.
Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!
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09-05-2006 04:55 AM  14 years ago
xcellflyer

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alright heres the deal...i was messing around with the deck and finally got it to work...i had the yellow and the red wire on the positive pole of my twelve volt battery and the black one on the negative pole of the 12v and it worked...so now in the car i guess ill have to figure out where the wires go. i already tried yellow to yellow red to red and so forth, but ill try a few different ways...anyother advise would be great...thanks again guys, you guys rock!!!Deadstick: Two of these can be found on a transmitter that has been inproperly charged.
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09-05-2006 10:25 AM  14 years ago
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i guess ill have to figure out where the wires go. i already tried yellow to yellow red to red and so forth, but ill try a few different ways...anyother advise would be great..
Check the car's harness!!!!! DON'T just try different random permutations, that's a sure way to fry the stereo,if not the car's wiring.
You've already identified the power wires...speaker outputs are usually"mirror image" pairs...so , red/white tracer will be paired with white/red tracer, for example.

generally the speaker returns are ISOLATED...do not "common " them, or "ground" them.
the manufacturer's websites or car owners' club sites may help.
you could also try a test lamp or multimeter to ident. the car-harness.
dabbing wires together is the road to disappointment and worse.
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09-05-2006 03:20 PM  14 years ago
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The colors DO NOT line up on that car's harness to the stereos wires.
Just go to Best Buy and buy a wire harness from Metra, the harness plugs right into your cars wiring, and then connect the steros wiring to the metra harness color to color. Sorry, but from your posts you really aren't qualified to do this on your own, you will most likly dammage your car or the stereo doing this with no assistance. I would recommend just paying someone to do it for you.
Shouldn't cost more than 50.00 to get it done.
Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!
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09-05-2006 09:22 PM  14 years ago
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I dont think you need to have some one do it for you, but you definatly need to go buy yourself a wiring harness. They usually only cost $15-20 and are worth the time and trouble.
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09-06-2006 03:26 AM  14 years ago
xcellflyer

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Hey
Here's an update. i bought a wiring harness for the 93 Geo prism and when it gets here ill try again and I'll update you guys.

CJames, yeah i'm not a master car electrician, but neither am i a mechanic and Ive already replaced an ac condenser on a car, and even replaced a front bumper with out knowing anything. heck if anyone knows about my other post, i even fixed a broken car window. you learn one way or another, and so far anything i try i usually succeed in. plus, i could save that 50 bucks and buy some heli parts

anyways, ill keep everyone updated on how its going and if i can do this successfully too! thanks again guys for all the responses.
Deadstick: Two of these can be found on a transmitter that has been inproperly charged.
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09-06-2006 01:21 PM  14 years ago
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you did the right thing buying the harness ... all you do is plug it into the car and then it tells you exactly what wires to connect to what ... youll be surprised how easy it is
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09-07-2006 01:57 AM  14 years ago
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Hey, at least your willing to try!
Hope it works out well for ya, use butt connecters on the wires, don't solder, {solder gets brittle and will break from vibration}
AND remember what I told ya about the black ground wire off the radio!! Do not use the harness ground wire. Make your own, just self tap into a ground. Easyiest way to tell if you have a good ground position, carefully use a 12v. tester, touch a wire you know is hot with the prong, than using the other end of the test lead, touch what you think is a good ground, if it lights up, you got it.
Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!
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09-10-2006 04:22 AM  14 years ago
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I DID IT!!!!!
Alright, i did it, yeah im soo cool...lol

just one problem, the damn cd player doesnt want to read any cd's??? i put it in it spins the cd up to speed, but then it switches back to the radio and ejects the cd... also when it ejects the cd it makes a kinda loud noise, not sure if that is good or bad?? what do you guys think i should do?? thanks again everyone for all your help!!

ohh it looks really cool in the little geo prism...
Deadstick: Two of these can be found on a transmitter that has been inproperly charged.
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09-10-2006 04:55 AM  14 years ago
EvoFlight50

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that sounds like you have a bad cd player ... you have tried more than one cd right ?
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09-10-2006 05:35 AM  14 years ago
xcellflyer

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yeah ive tried burned ones and regular album cds...i wonder if i would be able just to get the cd player part for it?? hopefully its not too much..thanks again! any other opinions welcome!Deadstick: Two of these can be found on a transmitter that has been inproperly charged.
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09-10-2006 06:08 AM  14 years ago
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Bummer all that just to have a bad cd player
You got to change it out if you want a cd player in your car, but look at the bright side, at least now you know how to do it!!
Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!
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09-10-2006 04:07 PM  14 years ago
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Hey excellflyer
I have a nice Alpine on Ebay! Older model but in excellent condition. Should go pretty cheap. Also have a couple of amps listed as well. Here is the link for unit: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
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09-10-2006 07:44 PM  14 years ago
xcellflyer

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Thanks for the offer, but if i can't get this one to work, then im not going to try and get another one because i just happen to have this and i just wanted to see if i could actually do the install myself. maybe when i get my car, ill look into getting a deck.

i do have another question though...i figured ill just continue with this thread. my brother bought 2 phoenix gold octane 12" subs (zr12's) that he wants to put in his 2002 licoln ls (v8). hes probably going to put them into the MTX dual 12 sub box (BS212S).

now what amplifier do you suggest he uses?? the subs are 300W RMS capable. it needs to be the best bang for the buck, because he cant spend $500 on an amp, but he wont spend 100 and get a s*** amp. so the overall best amp that will give the best performance.

one other thing...his car has the alpine 6 disc cd deck. will the amp hook up to this deck or does he need a different after market deck?? ohh just one more thing. should he get an equilizer too? if so what brand do you suggest. any info would be great! thanks again everyone!
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09-10-2006 07:52 PM  14 years ago
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usually any after market deck can be connected to an amp ... and he doesnt really need an equilizer ... most after market decks have good ones built in and a lot of the new amps have some pretty good adjustments on them ...

as far as what amp to buy ... do some research ... go onto a website that sells amps like crutchfield or something and see what you can get for that price that puts out the most amperage ... im not saying buy it from crutchfield b/c they're expensive ...
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