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09-04-2006 05:36 AM  14 years ago
colin8

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My experience was similar to Just Chris: someone told me to chase the heli when nose-in instead of correcting it when tail-in. Once I got that in my head, I started making rapid improvements.
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09-04-2006 07:02 AM  14 years ago
Hummingbird3D

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I've tried the if the heli tilts one way then move the stick the same or opposite direction method - always forgot which way that was when I was on the field, so that did not work for me.

Then, I read something that helped a lot.

Make a temporary mark on your radio's cyclic side,

Top - moves towards the nose
Bottom - moves towards the tail
Left side - moves towards drivers side
Right side - moves towards passenger side

As a driver in a car you are on the left side. So to tilt the heli on the DRIVER'S side move the cyclic to the left.

Don't think of the opposite side as the right side anymore, but as the PASSENGER side. Therefore, to tilt the heli to the PASSENGER'S side move the cyclic to the right, same reason as above.

Now, don't think of forward, but the nose. If you want the nose to get the heli closer to you, move the cyclic forward (nose of the heli).


To move the heli towards the direction of the tail, move the cyclic towards the back.


This works very well when flying/hovering nose in as, nose, tail, driver side & passenger side should always elicit the same stick movement from you no matter what direction the heli faces. And with this method you won't get caught up with what was one direction with a particular cyclic input, is now the opposite direction when the heli faces a different direction. That's one thing less to cause you the shakes at the end of a flight.

This should answer your question on nose in hovering as well as helping you when you get to the point where you're just flying all over the place.
Fly It Like You're On The Simulator!
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09-04-2006 07:33 AM  14 years ago
ShellDude

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Heck, its when I take the time to think about what I'm doing that I typically screw up.
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09-04-2006 11:28 AM  14 years ago
Stealth_T-REX

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I just do the up and down technique, its like learning to hover all over again.. Start by pointing the heli noise in at you. Then try to bring the heli up to a hover, if you get scared set it back down again. Hence the up and down technique. A few packs later you will start to feel more confident and it will become more and more easy.

but honestly a simulator will ultimately give the best feel for noise-in flight and hovering with out the worries of a crash. Spending 4 hours on a simulator practicing any new maneuvers you wish to do will save you a lot of pain, money and frustration.

If you don't have a simulator, realize that it is frustrating to learn noise-in hovering and flight. If you find your self getting frustrated, stop and walk away for a few minutes.

Cheers and good luck!
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09-04-2006 12:54 PM  14 years ago
Jon the Rooster

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Heck, its when I take the time to think about what I'm doing that I typically screw up.
Like someone else once said. If you have to think witch way to go your probaly gonna crash!
"Must become 1 with the Heli ,Grasshopper!"
and one more thing "DON'T BE AFRAID!"
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09-04-2006 02:07 PM  14 years ago
Tintin

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Simulator all the way, any even FMS will teach you that. It won't get really good as long as you keep thinking about how to use the sticks. When you start acting on reflex rather than from a decision is when the progress comes, imho.“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”
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09-04-2006 03:46 PM  14 years ago
robl45

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I just say to myself that I have to reverse all the controls and then just try and fly. If you think too much you will crash, at least I will. This damn nose in is so tough, I'm afraid I might never be able to handle side in. Its been crappy weather here for about a week and I crashed last weekend so hopefully I can get the heli out again today and try a little nose in crashing, I mean hovering
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09-04-2006 03:55 PM  14 years ago
ShellDude

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"Must become 1 with the Heli ,Grasshopper!"
Wax on... Wax off...

'mornin jon!
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09-04-2006 04:09 PM  14 years ago
Jon the Rooster

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and one more thing "DON'T BE AFRAID!"
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09-04-2006 05:52 PM  14 years ago
robl45

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well I went and flew a little nose in, and didn't crash which is nice. The wind got too bad so I had to come in but the tracking was dead on so I didn't have to adjust outside. I think I'm getting a little better and I'll just try to practice landing so I can get the gear off again. Then I can work on spinning the heli around for nose in.
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09-04-2006 07:14 PM  14 years ago
alfasilin

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Take it easy. It is just matter of time.
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