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09-09-2006 06:48 AM  14 years ago
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So you read my posts afterall....kinda guessed you did..

I can explain the problem once more as I did long time ago.
When the US threatens Iran (or others for that matter) you provoke them. They don't like this and respond to it by showing that you cannot dictate what they should or should not do so they ofcourse continue with their nuclear science as this obviously is what you are most afraid of. If there is ever going to be a chance of a non violant solution then you guys have to step down first. Your opponents, enemies or whatever you want to call them are not afraid to die, dying might even be glorious to them, specially if they can take with them a bunch of americans on their way to heaven.

They do exactly what you do. You are afraid of Iran so you threaten them. They get afraid so they make threat themselves. Exactly as 5 year olds that quarrel....

I do not want the US to lead the world. I live in Norway and have absolutely no need to be led by the US or Iran or anybody else than the Norwegian goverment. Are you after total world domination just like Hitler? I don't want your values for my self or my friends.
No country shall need to bow down to any other. It's absolutely possible to live in peace as soon as y'all stop acting like the class bully.

If you go into Iran you will provoke a lot of muslims all over the world. I'm convinced you'll see terrorist attacks on US soil again.
The next time you provoke them so it happens I think I'll feel the same way as when the Israelis shot back at Hizbollah, they had it coming, so will you.

If you really think you can start a war against all the muslims in the world, which is what you do if you invade Iran, and win it then you really are so dense you too often seem to be. Or just naive maybe....you can never gain respect from threatening them with invasion. They are not afraid of you and not afraid of an invasion is that so hard to grasp?
You obviusly have absolutely no idea about what kind of people you are facing which is odd since you claim otherwise from having read some propaganda pages on the net..
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09-09-2006 07:37 AM  14 years ago
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Only read your posts cuz I have to inorder for everyone elses comments to make sense. You were on ignore for a few days, but believe what you want. You just dont get it. period. Irans president is not rational like you make him out to be. You simply just dont understand, the world isn't pacifist like you, especially the middle east. Standing down to them only makes them stronger, history has proven that. But you obviously fail to learn a thing from history, i.e. pacifist way of thinking....how hitler damn near conquered Europe. In a perfect world everyone would be at peace....far from the world we live in. Everything gained and lossed has been through war. Period. AS much as you'd like for Iran to be able to threaten us, the U.S. especially why gwb is in office wont let it happen. Iran's president poses a very serious threat to Europe, you just fail to see it....hmm where have I seen this before? give you a hint, it was the 30's and the guys name started with an "H", he also hated jews....
The next time you provoke them so it happens I think I'll feel the same way as when the Israelis shot back at Hizbollah, they had it coming, so will you.
So Isreal has it coming, what should they do, bend over and take it?
You obviusly have absolutely no idea about what kind of people you are facing which is odd since you claim otherwise from having read some propaganda pages on the net..
Propaganda eh? So I guess aaakminidajad never said that stuff eh? Your just in denial, plain and simple. Saw an interview of a holocaust survivor and the reporter asked, "what is the one thing everyone should have learned from the holocaust." The survivor replied, "When people make threats, esecially threats pertaining to mass murder, take them seriously." Perhaps you could learn from this guy? You just dont take them seriously enough, if it wasn't for us it would bite you in the a$$ again, but we wont let it happen. BTW jihadwatch.org is actually just full of facts, by far one of THE LEAST biased web sites on the net when it comes to Islam, go actually read it, far from propaganda, and perhaps then you'd get a clue.
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09-09-2006 07:46 AM  14 years ago
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3D WASP and Stet.

Sometimes we differ on opinions, however I agree with both of yours on this issue.

Given the choice to push a button and eliminate the entire western continent, Ahmadinejad would push it without hesitation.

He is a threat to many countries, including yours Tintin.

Believe me, I normally side with your opinions, however on this issue I really have to say that Ahmadinejad is definitely on a similar path as Hitler was unfortunately.

Give him the power and the means and he will take his new army and march across the border.

Give him the nuclear capabilities, along with their new missle technology, 2+2=boom.
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09-09-2006 07:47 AM  14 years ago
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Btw I dont really think an invasion of Iran is needed. Just bomb their nuclear facilities and take away their ability to threaten us and the world. No need for occupation, occupation only gives them a chance to win, or more or less bog us down. Blow up the stuff the stuff they are working on, go head and let them rebuild it in 10 years, we can blow it up again.Timing is everything
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09-09-2006 07:50 AM  14 years ago
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right on kookboy, gonna have to agree with you here. He is so similar to Hitler its scary. Only difference is he is trying to get nukes before he starts ww3, makes him even more scary. He HAS to be taken out before this can happen, the consequences for just letting him do what he is trying to do are unimaginable. Face it Tintin he is a threat to the World, including you!Timing is everything
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09-09-2006 04:09 PM  14 years ago
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You are such a fool you cannot even manage to read so I think you'd better just put me back on that ignore list again, quick. I wouldn't have to answer to all your idiocy.

I bet you had to take me off it just because you were missing all the action and a bad boy like you doesn't like being on the sideline hah? LMAO, pathetic excuses all the way..
The most pathetic is that you had to excuse yourself at all. Had you been 1/2 the man you claim to be you would have been able to ignore that one. I hadn't figured you for a teen, now I do.
You were just to afraid I was saying bad things about you. Now I am gonna as you are back...

If you had any memory at all you would remember that I wrote that I had no sympathy for the Lebanese people, now go back and read it again. You are son blinded from your beliefs that it blocks your vision and your mind. I bet you read the rest of the stuff you read about muslim with the same filter on, no wonder you are wacked up...

Sure Iran is scary NOW. When you stick your nose in the beehive you are most likely gonna get stung. Get your fuc...g paws out of it and let the bees fix their hive while making a lot of noice. Eventually they will go back their real work when the fixing is done. You guys have stirred that pot since the WW2.

I know b..dy well lot's the world aren't pacifists. If they were we wouldn't be in the d.mn pickly you have put us by not being it.
You might have propaganda knowledge about Islam but you sure have no knowledge of peoples mind. When you get old enough I suggest a psychology class. Maybe you will find out that the class bully is not as popular has he (you?) might think. People "agree" with him so he'll s.ut his piehole up and leave them alone, the rest of the class just consider him a dumb a$$....
"When people make threats, esecially threats pertaining to mass murder, take them seriously." Perhaps you could learn from this guy?
Is there a hole in your head? It seems there is cause I think your braincells are pouring out. Who is really threatening with mass murder / genocide here?

I'll remind you: YOU are, you are the one saying bomb them, nuke them, kill them. HEEEELLOOOOOO, seems the light is on but there sure is no one home under your rug....
aaakminidajad
You in a nut shell, can't spell it, doesn't bother to check, you are to cool and have more important things to do, like trying to belittle everyone that doesn't agree with you so the unpleasant things go away. You are just sooo like the classbully trying to run the show so he ignores the fact that not in the same position just hate his guts.

If there is one thing we should learn from war it would be that it's a bl00dy mess, every time. Lives will get lost, also civilian lives, every time. It will also upset your opponent. You have, as you are so eager to state, a lot more bombs so why is it obvious to me and soo many others that that fact will result in the enemy not playing fair. Didn't you guys learn squat in Nam? Ohhh I forget, you weren't born till 20 years or more after it was over..
Go at the muslim even more and you will see quite a bit of terrorism, maybe then you will realize how the war on terror should be faught.
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09-09-2006 06:09 PM  14 years ago
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This thread is turning a little too violent for me.

This nuclear arms extravaganza with Iran is a comlicated issue to discuss.

Hopefully, things simmer down a little.

The US is definitely in between a rock and a hard ass, that is for certain.
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09-09-2006 07:27 PM  14 years ago
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Oh G-sus
Here's my take (simple construction worker)
They say all the want is nuclear power.
They fund a bunch of nasty people.
The head guy routinely says really bad things.
The majority of the iranian people are supposedly not with him on his rants.


We can't engage them other than requesting sanctions due to the repercussions by the world market.

We can stop any aid.
Instead we can give this to israel.

Another freaking cold war ,threat of a threat.
But then again thats us too.
You really THINK that backing off and letting them calm down is a solution ?
Does this ever work ? The UN has such a wonderfull record in these matters.
Like the genocide in Africa.
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09-09-2006 07:34 PM  14 years ago
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The UN has such a wonderfull record in these matters.
Like the genocide in Africa
The USA's actions during that time were disgraceful, pathetic and non-existent.

No oil there.
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09-09-2006 08:57 PM  14 years ago
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Well except for the fact that you backing Israel is one of the major problems keeping this fire burning....“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”
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09-09-2006 09:35 PM  14 years ago
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Sure Iran is scary NOW. When you stick your nose in the beehive you are most likely gonna get stung. Get your fuc...g paws out of it and let the bees fix their hive while making a lot of noice. Eventually they will go back their real work when the fixing is done.
Need I say more about how little you understand about the situation? Yeah leave em be, he'll go away. Can we say HITLER?! god you freaking European pacifists have learned absolutely NOTHING! Good your not in control.
Well except for the fact that you backing Israel is one of the major problems keeping this fire burning....
Yep, so we should just let Israel get over run, thats it. Hell let the radical muslims just take over Israel, they'll stop there...hmm HITLER again....Poland? You know you may be older than me Tintin, but its obvious I clearly have much more of a clue than you do. The parallels between Aaaaaaaakminidajad (i'll spell it the way I want) and Hitler are amazing, and scary! When are you going to put it through your whole (oh the world needs to be peacful, dont kill him, wuss a$$ pacifist attitude) and realize theres a very serious problem that needs to be taken care of? Nevermind I know the answer....i'm probably just some bully, neo-con, war-monger right? Go head and Quote that to where its out of context to, its so a tactic for you types.
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09-09-2006 09:42 PM  14 years ago
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3D said
The parallels between Aaaaaaaakminidajad (i'll spell it the way I want) and Hitler are amazing, and scary!
Can you out line the parallels for us please.
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09-09-2006 09:51 PM  14 years ago
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09-09-2006 10:26 PM  14 years ago
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Well said Inverted...
The parallels between Aaaaaaaakminidajad (i'll spell it the way I want) and Hitler are amazing, and scary!
The parallells between you and Hitler are not amazing, just obvious, not very scary just sad...

What I do understand is that you have to lie in the bed you have made so stop whining 3D. You have made yourself a serious problem that needs to be taken care of. You want to use a method that will cost thousands of american lives. I sincerly hope you are man enough to stand behind your words and make sure you are the first one across the border. Hope you are up to moving out of your parents house first....

Your spelling is one of the things that show your age and it makes you look like a rebel teenager thus hard to take serious...

So does your complete inability to remember anything that has been written earlier.
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09-10-2006 04:14 AM  14 years ago
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Tintin: Go take a shi$.Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again
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09-10-2006 05:44 AM  14 years ago
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This thread has turned into an high school all-out rumble.

My thoughts were in line with invertedDude's.

Covert operation to cripple the nuclear portion of manufacturing.

Any large military action will further isolate the US from the rest of the world, as is currently happening in Iraq.
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09-10-2006 07:13 AM  14 years ago
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Can you out line the parallels for us please.
Lol, you must be blind, all i'm gonna say, do a little research, you may just be shocked....Covert military action would be The best way to go, if it can work, by all means do it. My spelling, yeah I spell it the way it sounds, Ever notice how middle Easterns say it? Or how they say hizbollah? Btw Tintin when did I say we needed to "march across the border" Anyways....Back on topic! I'll say it again since Tintin keeps de-railing the thread. Hey perhaps mr. criticism can answer the question, what to do with Iran, huh? Ignore that they are a problem?
Your spelling is one of the things that show your age and it makes you look like a rebel teenager thus hard to take serious...

[quote]So does your complete inability to remember anything that has been written earlier.
Sorry sir! What you want me to talk up to you or something? Not gonna happen, talk down to me all you want, still never gonna happen.
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09-10-2006 07:30 AM  14 years ago
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I dont know very much about Iran, or Iraq for that matter. In fact I bet I know less than the average joe or joeline (sp). I DO know this. The US military is farther outstreched than it has EVER been. I believe their are 10 divisions in the Army alone. 8 of which are abroad. I for one dont want to spend my life away from my family trecking the world looking for fights that arent required. Irans nuclear capability MAY be an issue, HOPEFULLY its not. I do not think at this stage in the game ANY SORT of military action aganist them by the US would be a smart move. The hardest enemy to defeat is the enemy that has nothing to loose, including life. "Blowing s****t up" is the ignorant answer. Unfortunately its the answer I hear far too often. Now I dont have a better solution at the moment, but like anything else in life, there is more than one way to skin a cat. My job is to fight for freedom. I pray that I NEVER have to fire a shot in anger. I hope that if that time comes, its the complete last resort. My biggest fear is my fiancee seeing me shotdown in some god forsaken country shooting it out for my life. It happened in somalia, once those soldiers died the somali's dragged their bodys through the streets. Ill be d*****mned if im going to let that happen to me without giving it one he!! of a fight. Make no mistake im no w**mp and when it comes time to do my job, im d**mn good at it. I just hope and pray there's no other way when it comes time to do it. Im one of the troops luckily stateside rightnow, but God bless all the other guys and gals in green!!!!
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09-10-2006 08:47 AM  14 years ago
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Sorry sir! What you want me to talk up to you or something?
It's still slightly amazing that guys for which having respect cannot even imagine that there are others out there which it is just as important. I said it before and I'll say it again as you obviously need to hear things an average 5 times before you have the slightest possibility to remember any of it. You may know some propaganda sh!t from the Koran but you sure do know squat about the human mind. Again I will recommend psychology studies since you lack the experience in dealing with it.

I'd actually prefer if you just look down, on all the smelly turds you are leaving behind. No matter where you look I'm afraid I'm looking down on you anyhow, there is one group of people I cannot respect and that's those with no respect for others, so guys like you 3D.
This thread has turned into an high school all-out rumble.
You bet it has, you gotta fight them on their level it seems...
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09-10-2006 09:13 AM  14 years ago
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oh boy turning this into a respect issue now huh...Give me a break. I was always taught to show respect to those that show you respect. It has nothing to do with age, nothing at all. I've got no respect for people who strap bombs to themselves, or crash planes into buildings in the name of a "god." I also have no respect for the people marching in the streets in support of these people, holding signs like "your 9/11 is coming UK" I also have no respect for those who don't speak out against these types of acts. No respect for people who come to this country and pray to the very god that their brothers are killing the "infidel" for. No respect for all the Arabs who run 7/11's who give me dirty looks and hardly speak the language. And on that note, very little respect for people who dont bathe regularly as they show themselves hardly any. You see this is where I get my lack of respect for muslims in general, you'd think when they immigrate to ones country they'd show respect first, perhaps try to assimilate, but they dont. They form their own little groups and pray on a carpet to a god, which in all reality is what my country, and the one they are living in, are fighting against. I've also very little respect for the mexicans who invade this country and take advantage of every public system without puting a nickel into the system. I also have very little respect for people who are so quick to point out all of what the U.S. has done "wrong." I have very little respect for someone who only criticizes when they themselves have no better solution, in fact I have no respect for them at all....I think this is where you are getting the vibe that I don't have any respect for you, this being the very reason. People can have different opinions, hey thats what freedom of speech is all about. But when you use that freedom of speech to only point out what someone is doing wrong in a particular situation, when they themselves couldn't do it better, well thats just straight up abuse of that right. So if you'd like to turn this into a repect debate that just fine, I can prove my point in more ways than one.Timing is everything
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