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09-05-2006 11:08 AM  14 years ago
Curiousdaughter

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I'm right behind you on this one tintin! (I think it's time for this discussion to become a little more ladylike )

What a lot of the posts above have been doing is agitating for genocide/'racial cleansing' - and theres at least one very famous individual in the past who tried to do that. I thought you Americans fought so that that would never happen again? You're very proud of it, certainly.
* Damaged, Destroyed and Disintegrated - sounds like 3D to me *
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09-05-2006 11:20 AM  14 years ago
Tintin

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Yes they are in fact. Scaringly close to what Hitler, Milosevic, Saddam and several African dictators/guerilla groups have been trying to do. That it comes from US citizens doesn't in any way legalize it even if the followers of Jihad is troublesome.

It's in fact even more scary as the US population is nowhere near the situation the population of the other states involved in such actions have been. They are supposed to be educated and informed people.
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09-05-2006 11:39 AM  14 years ago
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How can you call the followers of Jihad 'a little troublesome'? thats like saying 9/11 was a little troublesome! like saying all the suicide bombings are a little troublesome! you are attempting to trivialise what the b**tards have beed doing!

Somehow I dont think you would be saying the same if there was the same attacks on either Norway or in fact here in G.B (as if we havent had enough)

CuriousDaughter

Your too young to know what your talking about. Racial cleansing? I really dont know what you call it but we want shut of these assh*les thats for sure, on a daily basis there is islamic people living here in the U.K getting arrested for terrorist activities! Do you not look at the News on TV? Do you not see whats happening here? not in Iraq, Iran, but right here in the U.K!

I went to a beauty spot in the Yorkshire Dales at the weekend the weather was so nice took the dog for a walk, and one of the other walkers said there was a group of Muslims, took a goat there and slaughtered it butchered it up and cooked and eat it! Is this civilised behaviour?

Would we do the same?

Dave

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09-05-2006 12:06 PM  14 years ago
Tintin

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Dave, worry more about the british rain, you are so agitated you can't read. Either that or you are using 3D technique trying to put words in my mouth that I haven't said (or written).

CD obviously know what she is talking about unlike you. Killing all muslims because some support Jihad is nothing but a genocide or an ethnic/racial cleansing.

It's just as stupid as saying you have to kill off an entire village or city cause there might live a murderer there. If this were the standard I think many US cities would be in a bit of a pickle...
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09-05-2006 12:20 PM  14 years ago
Curiousdaughter

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He wasn't calling Jihad a little troublesome - he was saying he found many people's views troublesome.

I knew my age would come into this somewhere. I have always found age irrelevant, as I've found that in reality it is no guage of experience or understanding. Everyone knows a few people who 'never grew up' and everyone knows people who are 'old for their age' - these are terms we use regularly and it shows just how flexible the whole concept of age is.

The term racial cleansing is usually one used by people to try and justify genocide/mass deportation, and so I thought I would be speaking in common terms with you. On a daily basis muslims may be arrested for terrorist activities, but isn't it better to arrest only those who are actually responsible for the terrorism rather than brand muslims in their entirety as terrorists? In our country we do not arrest everyone with a knife simply because they could be possible killers - to take the analogy further, most of the population are using that knife to cut up their veg peacefully!

I know what is happening right here in the UK, but what is always fresh in my mind is the time when Christians blew up the centre of Manchester. Like I said before, in the end we just got on with our lives and showed we weren't beaten.

Unless you're vegetarian I'd steer clear of finding what happened on the hill horrific if I were you. This is essentially what all meat eaters do - except they normally shy away from the messy part.

EDIT : I took a while to write this and Tintin had already got there more succinctly! Cheers
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09-05-2006 12:28 PM  14 years ago
djtilko

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Wooaaa Tintin!!

I have said nothing about Killing all Muslims

I said we needed SHUT of them not SHOT! Translates into send em home! any taking part in harbouring them get em on the next ship out of here! vamous! go! sod off!

They cant take the goats with em too

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09-05-2006 12:30 PM  14 years ago
Curiousdaughter

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What you just said amounts to racial cleansing. Youre just deporting them instead of killing them.* Damaged, Destroyed and Disintegrated - sounds like 3D to me *
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09-05-2006 12:38 PM  14 years ago
Tintin

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Maybe you didn't Dave, several others have...
Deporting every muslim is slightly better alternative but where the heck do you want to send them? Lot's are born and raised in your country and carry a GB passport. They have no other "home" you can deport them to so it's not really a realistic option, just pure nonsense.
Several demand solutions from me. This is what you guys come up with? Deport your own citizens? Some solution...and you say I need to educate myself
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09-05-2006 12:42 PM  14 years ago
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I should've unsubscribed from this thread 10 pages ago. TinTin, give it a break man. You're literally insulting the thousands of individuals risking their lives daily to protect your interests whether your dim whit brain realizes it or not.

Unless of course you're a radical Muslim... that'd explain a couple things.

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09-05-2006 12:49 PM  14 years ago
Tintin

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If you really think so they you need to read my posts again cause you haven't understood didelisquat + you should read some more, maybe from Chatham.

I do insult the one making the bad decision, the rest just do the job they were set to.
Then I insult those who are pro genocide, like Saddam, Adolf and their peers. And those that condone racial/ethnical/religious cleansing and so on.
The rest I haven't insulted with as much as 1 word.

And in my world, they are not protecting my interests. The oil was cheaper and business in the middle east was way easier before your troops entered Iraq. I do not want your troops in Iraq, I didn't ask them to go there and if you guys would stop provoking the muslims things might finally get better....
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09-05-2006 12:53 PM  14 years ago
Curiousdaughter

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I recently read a study on sucicide terrorism. I'll have to dig it out for people to read, because it makes interesting reading whichever side of the debate you are on.

However, the upshot of it was that suicide terrorism tends to be in response to occupying forces.
* Damaged, Destroyed and Disintegrated - sounds like 3D to me *
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09-05-2006 12:58 PM  14 years ago
Tintin

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You don't say, that comes as a big surprise to me “Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”
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09-05-2006 01:14 PM  14 years ago
djtilko

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CD

Unless you're vegetarian I'd steer clear of finding what happened on the hill horrific if I were you. This is essentially what all meat eaters do - except they normally shy away from the messy part.

Soooo you think its ok to take a live goat to a beauty spot thats under conservation where people bring their kids for a nice day out and slaughter it slowly and let the blood drain out of it? to make its last throes of life sound out to all the passing visitors?

Yep I eat meat but I dont go into a natural beaty spot and slaughter animals!

You said
He wasn't calling Jihad a little troublesome - he was saying he found many people's views troublesome.

This is what Tintin said in his post!

That it comes from US citizens doesn't in any way legalize it even if the followers of Jihad is troublesome.

Doesnt say anything about people views being troublesome!

My reference to your age is simply that you havent seen enough of the world yet to make an educated statement on how world politics should be run otherwise wed have politians ruling the country that were the same age as your good self! no disrespect intended here.

As for racial cleansing thats what you are calling it not me! simple facts are we let em stay here we get killed bit by bit.

Your statement thus:

On a daily basis muslims may be arrested for terrorist activities, but isn't it better to arrest only those who are actually responsible for the terrorism rather than brand muslims in their entirety as terrorists?

In a perfect world in a perfect world!! but it isnt perfect is it? these people are vastly different to us! their whole culture is different with fundamental behaviour differences that some of them are never going to fit in with our western way of life this is being proved all the time and people like you are the ones who are encouraging it to continue.

If you look at their way life and ther rules they live by you will find out how big the problem is and its just getting worse as I am sure you will agree? more attacks more suicide bombings etc etc. much much earlier in this or the other thread I said is it normal and ok for Arab women to be kept always behind their man? for them to cover every part of their bodies with clothing in black with only a slit for their eyes? for any white man to be under threat of death if they so much as look at their women? their punishment routines, i.e cutting hands arms of for stealing loaves of bread? To behead people? to stone people to death? to die in the name of allah god is great!

You think that this behaviour is ok to have them living among us and living like this?

Dj
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09-05-2006 01:29 PM  14 years ago
Tintin

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Now you managed to quote me correctly, trust you read it again
However CD is quite correct if you want to pinpoint it. If you condone Jihad then you have a troublesome view, no doubt about it...

Here's your real problem:
However, the upshot of it was that suicide terrorism tends to be in response to occupying forces.
There is really only 2 choices to stop suicide bombers.
The first is of course to quit the occupations
Second alternative is to get rid of all potential suicide bombers.

The first part is way easier than comitting genocide...
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09-05-2006 01:32 PM  14 years ago
djtilko

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Tintin

So if we and the Americans pulled out of the trouble zones, Iraq, Afganistan etc, you think they will just say thanks we will let you get on with the rest of your lives in peace?

Just asking maybe your right I dont know, but maybe what if you are wrong? and they see it as a weak move? i.e we are winning lets stick it to em some more!

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09-05-2006 01:40 PM  14 years ago
Curiousdaughter

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Actually, Tintin's grammar was a little unclear there - I think we both took it to mean two of the possibles, maybe you can clarify this for us Tintin? EDIT: he already did - oops, sorry.

It's not a perfect world, but who said it was? I repeat, you don't arrest entire cities in case some might be criminals - just like we shouldn't arrest/deport whole religions just because some of their followers might be terrorists.

It shouldn't make a difference where the animal is killed - I find it disgusting either way, except you don't own up to what is really happening with your food. You'd rather it was out of sight and out of mind - thats not the way life works. This has nothing to do with terrorism though!

"My reference to your age is simply that you havent seen enough of the world yet to make an educated statement on how world politics should be run" - I don't want to list all the things I've done, but simply put, age is not a cursor for experience. I would like to mention that I'm a GYLC alumnus though.

I also believe the Queen took up responsibility for the country at the age of 18 in her father's absence... and in America there was an 18 year old mayor I think.

I'm calling it racial cleansing, you're the one preaching that we should do it. All I do is put a name to it.
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09-05-2006 02:01 PM  14 years ago
Tintin

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In a way I'm sure they will see it as a weak move, at least that is how the leaders will present. However you are also removing the major reason for terrorist attacks. We will need to solve the Israel /Palestine problem too, as we have no chance of stopping it completely as long as we back up Israel in everything they do.

So what if they think it's a weak sign? Their leaders might be fanatic but they are not idiots. They know that if we backed out and they went at us we'd be back before they could say gesundheit.

The USSR is history, so is the nuclear threat from that side. China is opening up more and more. No-one really wants a dictator if there is an alternative. This is what we can help provide. We can help stop corruption, hunger and poverty.

Lots of help for the Palestinians was stopped when Hamas took over, now they are loosing support as they cannot keep what they promised. I think they will be out of the pic at next election.

Btw, did you guys know there are different muslims around and that they aren't relly the best of friends?
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09-05-2006 02:02 PM  14 years ago
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You bunch of illiterate A$$eS. Read the damned Muslim book and quite clogging up the web. To F ing dumb to be on the world site. Come back , when you know what in the he(( your talking about. , especially you curious and tintin.Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again
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09-05-2006 02:15 PM  14 years ago
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Well I dont know whether to bother replying to this one CD, SOD IT I WILL!

As long as we have these extremists living among us here in the U.K We will get nothing but more killings! I realise as Ive said way way back in this thread that I dont think it possible to send them ALL back! But we could damn well send anyone connected with it back! Instead they get arrested and kept here!

Why do the Islamic people that are living here in this country not do something? have you not thought about why they do not stand up and shout about whos side they are on? they choose to come here and live their lives with us but wont hand over these terrorists!

Why do we not see demos and rallies from them apploring the actions these extremists have taken in this country? Instead they have been allowed to do the opposite and support with rallies and demos their terrorist brothers!

You think its ok to let this carry on thinking that we will always be able to find the culprits that are doing the bad deeds dont you? But if an incident like 9/11 happened in Manchester and blew your family to bits would you still feel sympathetic to these assh*les? Would you still be saying the same things?

As for the animal thing I am a 52 yr old man who has worked all my life, you think killing an animal is what outrages me? think again young lady! its not the killing its something called respect, respect for the way we the endemic people live our lives in this great country of ours, and slaughtering goats in a public place of beauty is not showing any respect for our country. Just as if we killed a pig and threw it in their mosques! how would that go down?

You are simply showing your youth in the statements about the Queen and the Mayor thing! for one thing the Queen isnt allowed to make policy! she doesnt have any real say in how the country is run does she? as for the Major in America well theyve got Arnold in charge somewhere havent they? Clint Eastwood etc that should say it all for you! Christ sake they even had Ronald Reagon as President!

Finally you can call anything, anything you like! at the moment racial cleansing seems to be very popular! although for some reason deportation takes up less letters! so why dont you call it that? maybe you think that by calling it racial cleansing its gonna mean more than it does?
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09-05-2006 02:16 PM  14 years ago
Tintin

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The book you keep refering to is actually of little interest. The extremists have their interpretation and use it for their cause just like many "good" xtians do with their book.

The Bible says "thou shall not kill" or something like that, you guys don't respect that much do ya?
Sure is a lot of sh!t so called good xtians do that cannot be found in the Bible so what is and is not in those books is not vital. What the leaders preach is a completely different matter.

And once again you narrow minded bwshd bottom, you cannot judge all from what some do.
Shall I keep you personally responsible for the athrocities your soldiers did during WWII, the Vietnam War and now the Iraqi war?
Shall all suffer because you have some soldiers that should have stayed home? Yet you obviously have no grasp as to what this leads to....

Btw
The traditional definition of literacy is the ability to use language–to read, write, listen, and speak. In modern contexts, the word means reading and writing in a level adequate for written communication and generally a level that enables one to successfully function at certain levels of a society
I have several documents proving that I infact fulfill these criteria...so I can't really understand why you use that term...
Having a different interpretation of things and being of a different opnion does not constitute being an illterate, try a dictionary if you have one...
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