RunRyder RC
WATCH
 5 pages [ <<    <     1     ( 2 )     3      4     NEXT    >> ] 12953 views Post Reply
HomeTurbine✈️Aircraft🚁HelicopterTurbine Helicopters › Introduction to turbine flying
09-09-2006 04:49 PM  14 years ago
chopper jockey

rrApprentice

uk

MyPosts All Forum Topic

The UIM CLASS ONE POWERBOATS championships. All the helicopters base themselves at our site overlooking Plymouth Sound. I sell them loads of JETA1
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-10-2006 10:05 PM  14 years ago
PETER ROB

rrElite Veteran

Devon UK

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Matt It has been about 4 weeks now how are you getting on with HotCat, have tried to fly any of the scale manouvers yet
Peter R
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-10-2006 10:31 PM  14 years ago
MattJen

rrElite Veteran

UK

MyPosts All Forum Topic
i refueled and then as the speed came up to flight speed and was getting light on the skids, i just put in a little rudder movement to feel the tail, apparently this is done on full size so the pilot can gain a feel of the controls, well i did that and presto the machine lifted straight into a hover at eye level.

At the moment i have gone back to basics, purely as this is a totally different way of flying, so at the moment i have gone back to hovering at all those angles and this is where i am currently at,

i had a problem with a blade, a chunk fell out i dont know the reason why, so i had to re order a set of blades, i tried the order the same ones, but no one seems to do them, so i emailed JETCAT and they said the recommended blades are minimum of 840mm, which is 5cm bigger than ones i had, so i got them, which now meant the settings are all out,

so to ensure i stay within safety limits Peter (instructor) told me to email robbe for the max speed with those sized blades, so then everything is safe. On the Sab blades it says max speed of 1200. but that’s the blades i want to know what the head is rated for so i am awaiting Robbe to get back to me.

One thing that did catch me off guard was a normal pitch gauge wont work as the blade cord is 75mm, so i have had to buy a new pitch gauge. that came on Saturday, so i will be setting it up on Tuesday, due to being busy over weekend.

I also had to take the head apart as one of the blade grips had movement, so looking at the robbe instructions for my style of flying they recommended an additional shim (S4205) before the 2 rubber O rings, so i put them in and replaced a thrust bearing and re greased the others. I also ordered a new set of tail blades as there was a chip on one of the blades, i wont risk it, if it was full size it would get replaced, and this i treat exactly the same.Likewise one of the ball links had become very loose i could pull it apart easily on a pre flight check, so i have replaced this as well.

I also have got on order a new swash plate, as if you remember i asked you to convert it to 3 servo ccpm but this machine cannot have it done, so it meant a wrong sized hole was now in the swash plate using a screw to replace the ball link. so have re ordered a new one of them from midland, i hope it gets here on Tuesday as Peter(instructor) is coming over, and we are going to go through it and set it up purely for scale and my style of flying.

In the meantime whilst this has been out of action i have practiced circuits and procedure turns on my Venture and approaches, Peter(instructor) said the approaches need work on, so i will be doing that on my venture, but hopefully on weds I will flying the turbine again, and building up those angles ready for circuits. I know I did all that on the XLV and the HOTCAT when i flew them at Hobbyparts field, but I want to be 100% comfortable as it is a new machine to me and as I said a different way to fly.and whilst i am learning to fly all over again Peter(instructor) is teaching me the physics and science of the hellie, as this now is getting very close to how a full size machine handles and i want to not only be able to fly this machine accurately but as i progress i want to know why things happen on this hellie.
All The Best
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-11-2006 09:17 AM  14 years ago
dazzaster

rrKey Veteran

right next door to hell

MyPosts All Forum Topic
sounds like you where sold a bit of a lemon there, bits of blade falling out and the swashplate needing altering and movement in the blade grips.
rather you than me, personelly i would strip the machine down and re-build it to make sure its all secure and get a better idea of the machines mechanics.
darren
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-11-2006 11:35 PM  14 years ago
PETER ROB

rrElite Veteran

Devon UK

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Well well Darren, some good advice from you at last,
it is always prudent to check a machine over and see it fly before you buy
Matt was fortunate to have a weekend free when he collected his HotCat from Me, he also brought along his instructor to make sure he did not get carried away with the euphorea of his first flying turbine
After he and his instructor, had checked the machine over he was treated to a display of the machines flying capabilities, and only then was he allowed to fly the machine himself.
As posted previously he then flew the machine for the rest of the day.
Different pilots have different ways of setting their machines up and in the past Matt has paid other people to set his machines up for him, he has been persuaded to start doing the work himself,so now is checking his SECOND HAND machine over more critically and finding small things to correct,
Blade damage can happen in transit, again it is prudent to remove the blades from the model and carry them in a bag designed for that purpose
Peter R
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-12-2006 08:10 AM  14 years ago
dazzaster

rrKey Veteran

right next door to hell

MyPosts All Forum Topic
ROTFLMFTO ...please peter you can call me daisy
if your prepared to listen to my advice youll soon relise its all good. but i do recomend that when listening to any advice you get everyones opinion and make your own mind up this way your not just getting one group or one persons perception on things, this is why i joined plymouthhelis because i got a very warm welcome , no one tried to take me aside and join there little group and i didnt just listen to a couple of the members opinions ,but every ones opinion and learnt a lot by it all. there where other clubs out there but i listend to everyone advice and made the correct dissisions. which has been proven
only then was he allowed to fly the machine himself.
if im buying a machine im going to be flying it ,who says im not allowed to fly it unless its over 20kg
finding small things to correct
and i thought you built these for a living if my boss came around and had to correct a few things i would be out on the streets
darren but please you can call me daisy (may be a plant but aleast im a pretty one)
A.K.A 509
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-12-2006 09:47 AM  14 years ago
PETER ROB

rrElite Veteran

Devon UK

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Now Where did I get the idea that this was a Turbine Helicopter topic
Peter R
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-12-2006 10:29 AM  14 years ago
crebes

rrNovice

UK

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Introduction to turbine flying
I’ve been flying Model Heli’s for some time now, and I’ve found Runryder to be an excellent resource, I’ve found many interesting articles and more importantly many points of safety that have helped me through my early flying days.

I am bitterly disappointed to find this petty vendetta has been allowed to continue by Runryder, to date I haven't seen anything constructive said by Dazzaster on this site, he has symptomatically tried every angle to get a reaction from a member of my flying club, a member, I would add, who is very much liked and respected not only by the club, to whom he is now the chairman, but also by the larger UK Heli community.

If you have an issue with Peter Rob sort it out yourself… not on Runryder… it’s petty, annoying and to be frank completely childish.

You say you listen to advise….. try this… stop walking around with a basket of chip’s on your shoulders and stop trying to undermine other’s who make valid posts and comments, try something new for a change….. Come up with something original yourself!

And before you post another sarcastic comment about Peter needing people to stand up for him or something equally as childish… Peter has no idea I am posting this, and in fact I’m sure he’ll be annoyed at me for doing it… but for the greater community, reading you prattle on with sarcastic comments about other members you have issues with…. is very boring.
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-12-2006 12:54 PM  14 years ago
dazzaster

rrKey Veteran

right next door to hell

MyPosts All Forum Topic
no vendetta just returning the kind comments. and friendlt banter
and just giveing my honest opinion. if you dont like my opinions then you have the option to not read them and ignore them.
ive just made a few pointer and asked a few questions myself.
If you have an issue with Peter Rob sort it out yourself… not on Runryder… it’s petty, annoying and to be frank completely childish
never met the bloke but in one of my first post he slagged me off..if he didnt i may respect him but i have no respect for stupidity and rudeness.
if you cant stand the heat.....dont play with a turbine
darren
A.K.A 509
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-12-2006 01:05 PM  14 years ago
MattJen

rrElite Veteran

UK

MyPosts All Forum Topic
deetedAll The Best
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-12-2006 01:12 PM  14 years ago
pbmdazza

rrNovice

london

MyPosts All Forum Topic
well done darren thats all i can say

crebes
ive been watching darrens posts all this time and find them very entertaining and helpfull hes made a good point about checking what your buying. yes ive seen darren getting a little bit sarcastic towards peter but this is only if you read between the lines because peter is doing the same except peter seems to be sneaky about it where as darren is just speaking his mind, all looks friendly enough to me and if you do as darren sudjest read one of his first post ,i would react in the same way if i got that kind of welcome. how can peter be well respected if he welcomes strangers like that
ie had my say and ill carry on wacthing with intrest.
and just for the record i ont know darren but hes made me laugh.
oh and darren hedge hogs dont float lol
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR  Quote
09-12-2006 01:23 PM  14 years ago
dazzaster

rrKey Veteran

right next door to hell

MyPosts All Forum Topic
thanks pbmdazza for your commens but i would appreciate it if you pm me your support and not get involved

matt glad to see youve finally got it sorted when you say routines are they set routines or do you fly a freelance type of routine?
and how do you remeber them?
darren
A.K.A 509
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-12-2006 05:40 PM  14 years ago
crebes

rrNovice

UK

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Pbmdazza, You miss my point entirely… A specialist web portal lives and dies on the quality of its content. Personally I don’t want to go to an online forum to find it full of post’s calling each other “Puff and Pratt”

You imply that you don’t know either of the protagonists…. So you must be visiting Runryder to find out information or indeed share some information you have discovered, and yet you find it “Very entertaining” to visit a specialist Heli forum and read post’s about two people you know nothing about calling each other “Puff and Pratt”! Sorry but I fail to understand why anyone would want to go to a Heli forum to read this sort of activity, when there are many better forums on the internet for this sort of thang?

You don’t have to read between the lines at all, it’s just pathetic, they live in the same city, if Dazzaster’s got a problem, go and sort it out like a man rather than call him names on a web site…Christ… the last time I saw someone call someone a Puff and a Pratt I was 5, and I think he’d stolen the guy’s dinner money! And rather than involve / annoy the whole Heli community… why not sort this out with PM’s?

My point is…If Runryder is going to carry on condoning this sort of petty backstabbing (even if you find it “Very entertaining”) then members will eventually vote with their feet, and that will be a real shame to find an excellent resource like Runryder ruined by crap like this…!
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-12-2006 07:39 PM  14 years ago
dazzaster

rrKey Veteran

right next door to hell

MyPosts All Forum Topic
crebes as pointed out to pbmdazza i would of rather he kept that comment to a pm .but since YOU have brought it up you may of noticed that ive just tried to get back on topic by asking matt a geniune question , its you who has now brought this conversasion back of topic all previose conversasion where about the topic and about matts first introduction into a turbine , as i said before you have the option to read it digest it and either ignore it or put some input into it, if you dont like it ignore it , and please read the post propperly i would never seriously call anyone a puff and was just explaining the noise a turbine may make on startup , i also pointed out after that post that if i was being seriouse and insulting i wouldnt of used the smiles, smiles on forums are there to express yourself a bit clearer. a smilly after such statement indicates it was a joke.A.K.A 509
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-12-2006 08:33 PM  14 years ago
pbmdazza

rrNovice

london

MyPosts All Forum Topic
well crebes looking at your profile youve done the same as me and sat in the background watching post the only reason youve made a comment is because looking at peters previose post im guessing your from the same club and are eveidently ganging up on darren? i may well be wrong but its very coincidental that you choose to come in on this topic.
i think we should both stay out of this and let the topic continue.
and to qoute one of darrens early post (sorry darren but got to view my opinion)
"so far theres been over 2100 people viewing this post and your the only one wo seems to object to it"
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR  Quote
09-12-2006 09:19 PM  14 years ago
crebes

rrNovice

UK

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Jeeees... you boys really are children... "ganging up on!"

Don't tell me... you're gonna tell your Dad now.... and I bet he's bigger than mine!

You can't pull the wool over your eyes pdmdazza can you!!!! do you think it was the bit in my earlier post that said Peter Rob was a member of my club... that you guessed he was a member of my club??

I've chosen to intervene because the crap that Dazzaster has been spouting about Peter Rob is frankly offensive, incorrect, un-factual slander.

As for the post from Dazzaster, if you can read, you’ll notice it states that you and Peter Rob should sort this out with PM’s, not you and pdmdazza, you are clearly best buddies. I notice that Dazzaster doesn’t have the courage to leave his earlier antagonistic post as it was this morning!

As for staying out of it, may I suggest that Peter Rob doesn’t post on topics started by Dazzaster (very few) and Dazzaster doesn’t post on topics started by Peter Rob… Oh shouldn’t that be MR’s job, but as he seems to be welded to the fence to the detriment of his own creation…. No wonder a large number of members don’t bother posting on RR anymore.

Adios RR…
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-12-2006 09:46 PM  14 years ago
dazzaster

rrKey Veteran

right next door to hell

MyPosts All Forum Topic
FYI i removed parts of my early post as it was brought to my attention that i may of stepped over the mark of going from just throwing around some friendly banter to being down right offensive.
i know when to have a laugh and i know when ive gone to far and after reviewing that post i felt i had gone to far and should of not made that commet after it had been brought to my attention that peter is the new chairmen (by the way congratulations peter) .
I've chosen to intervene because the crap that Dazzaster has been spouting about Peter Rob is frankly offensive, incorrect
please feel free to point out to me which part is incorrect?
As for the post from Dazzaster, if you can read, you’ll notice it states that you and Peter Rob should sort this out with PM’s
infact if you read it i asked him to keep that sort of thing to pms and asked him to pm me rather than put his support/input on the board(which sorry pbmdazza no ofence intended ..i dont need)
but crebe you my friend are a plant!!
A.K.A 509
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-13-2006 09:33 PM  14 years ago
PETER ROB

rrElite Veteran

Devon UK

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Introduction to turbine flying
Matt the 1/4 scale Jet Ranger is back in the air ready for your next visit, with a bit of luck and fair weather a chance to fly something which will really test your scale flying ability
Peter R

SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-13-2006 10:29 PM  14 years ago
MattJen

rrElite Veteran

UK

MyPosts All Forum Topic
deletedAll The Best
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-14-2006 08:09 PM  14 years ago
dazzaster

rrKey Veteran

right next door to hell

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Thought i would share a couple photo of my first flight of a vario benzin/hobbyparts conversion turbine (wren/baileys)owned by turbine master. after haveing a couple flight on turbine masters gasser , he offered to let me take his turbine up for a test fly (i couldnt say no)


as you can see it flys lovely not too difrently to the gasser (after all its only a change of power plant)
but after a short hover turbine master put the camera down and joined me at my side as i took it up for a few circuits and a couple of very smooth stall turns ,and it handles very well indeed.
thank you turbine master once again for haveing confidence in my flying and for trusting me with your machine.

Darren
A.K.A 509
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
WATCH
 5 pages [ <<    <     1     ( 2 )     3      4     NEXT    >> ] 12953 views Post Reply
HomeTurbine✈️Aircraft🚁HelicopterTurbine Helicopters › Introduction to turbine flying
Print TOPIC

 9  Topic Subscribe

Saturday, November 28 - 5:25 am - Copyright © 2000-2020 RunRyder   EMAILEnable Cookies

Login Here
 New Subscriptions 
 Buddies Online