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07-23-2006 02:56 PM  14 years ago
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rc united

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Pitch settings for newB?
There are two schools of thought on this. 1] 0 degree pitch on low stick - prevents slamming into ground in a panic. 2] + and - pitch so that you learn to hover at mid stick. I thought if I could set up so that I would have 4 to 6 degrees of positive pitch at mid stick and progressing to 0 at low stick that I would satisfy both criteria. I have a mx400 with ccpm and a Spektrum dx6. Please help with tx set up and heli pitch settings. Thank you for your help.
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07-23-2006 04:01 PM  14 years ago
Al Austria

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When I teach my friends I set my pitch and throttle curves to:

Pitch curve:
0,0,0,5,10

Throttle curve(normal):
0,15,30,50,100

It may look strange but my reasoning behind it is that you will be learning how to hover at 3/4 throttle which you will more than likely be converting to later on. Like you said, the lowest the pitch will be able to go is 0 degrees so you will get the benefits of that while at the same time be learning how to hover at 3/4 throttle. Once you are more comfortable, you can change your pitch curves so that in EVERY flight mode, they look something like:

Pitch curve:
-10,-5,0,5,10

The transition would be seemless because the throttle and upper part of the pitch curve would not have changed.
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07-23-2006 04:27 PM  14 years ago
tchavei

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A tiny negative pitch on bottom is a must when you fly with wind. With 0 degree pitch you won't be able to get the bird down before the headspeed bleeds off. I started with -2,0,10 now I use -4,0,10 in normal mode and -10,0,10 on idle up 1 and beyond.

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07-23-2006 04:36 PM  14 years ago
Al Austria

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If you're flying around then yes, negative pitch will be necessary. However, I'm assuming that he'll only be hovering in which case 0 degrees should be plenty low enough to get back down, wind or no wind. If his head speed does bleed off prematurely, he can just increase the 50% point on the throttle curve.
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07-23-2006 05:58 PM  14 years ago
tchavei

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I had some suprises "just hovering around" but I was hovering in 20mph wind but I guess not many newbies are as crazy as I was


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07-23-2006 06:07 PM  14 years ago
Al Austria

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07-23-2006 10:08 PM  14 years ago
rc united

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Pitch settings for newB
Thanks for the info. guys. My DX6 has only three points on both throttle and pitch curves. I was thinking of [pitch 0 0 10] and [throttle 0 30 100]. Would this be ok? I can understand the purpose of the throttle curve [higher rotor speed nearing hover = more stability], but would'nt the pitch be very sensitive from mid stick to full?
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07-23-2006 10:40 PM  14 years ago
tchavei

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Yes it will be quite sensitive and I advice you to learn to live with it. You will get the hang of it in no time. That only applies if you want to get into 3D.

I started out hovering at midstick so my precise curve was something like: -2,4,6,8,10 that would make the pitch less sensitive around midstick. Problem was that after a few months I felt the need to change to an normal linear pitch curve and I had to learn all over again. Pitch felt quite sensitive in the first few days but now its like second nature. Having a radio with short stick travel (like the 9Z or even more the 14Mz) is even more challenging.

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07-23-2006 10:45 PM  14 years ago
Al Austria

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Those curves should work just fine for learning.
but would'nt the pitch be very sensitive from mid stick to full?
Compared to a 1/2 throttle hover setup, it will be slightly more sensitive but it shouldn't take long to get used to.
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07-24-2006 01:39 AM  14 years ago
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I am a firm believer in start as you mean to carry on. -10 to +10 on collective. You never need to teach your thumbs any different ever again.Vegetable rights and Peace
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07-25-2006 01:00 AM  14 years ago
billm

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I just made the move to idle up mode. Using 0 at mid stick.
I'm having to re teach my thumbs as durring my hovering in N mode mid stick was at +5. I would sugest right out of the cute to make mid stick 0.
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