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07-20-2006 04:10 PM  14 years ago
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JitsuGuy

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Tesla Roadster
Tesla Motors unveiled their uber-chic Roadster, a supercharged electric vehicle that looks, feels and drives like many other high-end sports cars Wednesday night. The main difference is the noise. Powered by a 3-phase, 4-pole AC induction motor, the Roadster can go 130 mph and does 0-60 in about 4 seconds, all completely silent.

More at link... http://www.autobloggreen.com/2006/0...n-santa-monica/
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07-21-2006 06:21 AM  14 years ago
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If I had an extra 80 grand laying around i'd get one.Jason
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07-21-2006 04:07 PM  14 years ago
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I predict these will be a huge hit. $80k is not outlandish in today's sports car marketplace.

Park it in a garage with enough solar panels on the roof and with an efficient energy storage and delivery system in the corner, and fuel costs could be zero for one of those. Not bad.
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07-21-2006 05:00 PM  14 years ago
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Pretty cool but how do you supercharge an electric motor??Fromeco Field Rep.
A day without sunshine is, well.., alot like night time.
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07-21-2006 09:52 PM  14 years ago
helo_chris

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Yeah, and how do you charge and electric motor? I thought thats what the batteries were for.. And what if you want to listen to the radio on a long drive and you dont use the brakes. Besides, who wants a quiet sports car, the grumble of a big V10 or V12 is part of the experience.
and fuel costs could be zero for one of those. Not bad
Not to start a flame war but thats part of the problem with greenie weenie electric crowd, nothing is free.
"There is a fine line between cutting edge and bleeding edge.."
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07-21-2006 10:08 PM  14 years ago
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Subsailor on electric you don't need any supercharging at all. This car already does 60 mph in 4.0 and mind you the motor there using has only 180 lbs torque and its tiny by todays motor standards. And only 2 gears forward and fast forward so its all about putting it in drive and zo0m. I would welcome something very quiet its just the fact that we are so used to gasoline engines we cannot appriciate or fathom something quiet or electric. Only 3 years to make, I think GM and all the other makers should take note or at least follow what they are trying to accomplish. But then again GM doesn't have enough money to research electric cars they only have deep pockets to research gasoline engines and keep the oil companys happy. Jimmi
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07-21-2006 11:08 PM  14 years ago
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I think they did a very nice job designing that car. Finaly an electric with a AC motor and Lithium batts. Its just a shame that no battery manufacturer makes a decent sized lithium cell or the range and power could be greatly increased. I would definatly take one of these over a comparibly priced viper or corvettte anyday.
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07-22-2006 12:37 AM  14 years ago
helo_chris

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For others who cant stand reading car reviews from people who are obviously not technical, here is the companies web site.

http://www.teslamotors.com/engineering/tech_specs.php


Also found this quote from Martin Eberhard, you have to love how these people think. Even if they are clueless.
"I'm not the only person that would like to buy a car that's beautiful and fun to drive but also remain on the moral high ground," said Eberhard, 45, who sold his previous company, electronic book maker NuvoMedia, for $187 million to Gemstar/TV Guide International in 2000. "None of the energy that goes into an electric car comes from the Middle East."
"There is a fine line between cutting edge and bleeding edge.."
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07-22-2006 01:00 AM  14 years ago
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nothing is free.
Of course not. Either you have a gas or diesel powered vehicle for which you pay for fuel as you go, or you spend a bunch more up front for a system that collects and stores FREE energy (solar panels).

The panels don't last forever but they last a surprisingly long time (anyone know how long?). Combined with a large battery array in your garage and an automated charging system, you'd be able to concentrate the energy and deliver it quickly to the car for re-use. And you'd have house power as a backup source in case the array didn't provide enough for one day.

The way battery technology is evolving for our helicopters it's sure looking like the number of people movers out there that're electric will also be increasing.

I want one of those.
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07-22-2006 01:14 AM  14 years ago
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220 volts required to charge with a 70 amp circuit

6,831 lithium-ion cells

so it is

6831s1p 3.5 hours to charge


batteries last only 3 years


the motor has to be a hacker 1850 or somthing like it LOL

Motor:
* 3-phase, 4-pole AC induction motor
* 13,500 rpm maximum
* Max Net Power: 185 kW
* Max Torque: 180 lb-ft
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07-22-2006 01:15 AM  14 years ago
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How long do solar panels last?op-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-t
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07-22-2006 01:17 AM  14 years ago
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Go for it, they are kinda cool. But with the current technology you arent going to produce enough electricity to keep that thing charged without plugging into the grid. Unless of course you dont drive it everyday. And I have studied solar panels for use in residential applications, and even the good ones arent that efficient.

And please, this is not a personal attack, but your comment proves my point. You think that you spend all this money up front for a high tech EV and all these solar panels and charging stations and whatever else you need to drive the thing and some how driving it is free. Amortize the investment, I guarantee that thing isnt any more cost effective to drive than a gasoline engine. Especially when you factor in the maintenance necessary.

People have bought into the notion that electric is free, ignoring the extremely high investment cost.
"There is a fine line between cutting edge and bleeding edge.."
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07-22-2006 01:23 AM  14 years ago
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Good solar panels will last 10-20 years."There is a fine line between cutting edge and bleeding edge.."
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07-22-2006 01:29 AM  14 years ago
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You politely pointed that out and you're right. Of course I understand the ongoing costs for maintainence and repairs and replacements. Sure the pro-rated price per mile is still gonna be lower with combustion engines for awhile now, but not forever. Soon will be the time when although it still might be a higher cost to drive than gassers it'll be close enough to gassers that lots of people will get interested just for the newness factor. That's a powerful draw that will gain momentum as the 'tipping point' swings closer.op-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-t
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07-22-2006 01:35 AM  14 years ago
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If some people are right and crude hits $200 a barrel you may very well be right. But if that happens the economy is going to plunge to the point that investing in something new and cutting edge is going to be an after thought. And one argument I keep making to a friend of mine is the state of our capacity to produce electricity in many areas. Some areas cant create enough power during many months of the year to power homes and businesses. What is going to happen to the price of electricity if everyone started jumping on the EV band wagon. It wouldnt be pretty thats for sure.

I think before the price curve gets close something else will have already come along. Look how long it has taken for battery technology to come along. In comparison it wasnt that many years ago that most said hydrogen technology would never work.
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07-22-2006 01:44 AM  14 years ago
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Sit back in your chair, stare up at the ceiling and ponder for awhile how the planet would change should cold nuclear fusion ever become viable. After 10 years this wouldn't even look like the same place, geopolitically or otherwise.

Anything used outside the home small enough to be carried would be battery powered. Office buildings and even homes would all eventually have their own fusion generation systems independant of a grid -- because maintaining large energy distribution grids would at some point no longer be cost-effective.

Vehicles would probably remain battery powered though because of crash danger. They'd be recharged at home or at work or wherever you park for an hour or two via small, locally-operated fusion plants. Hell, you may not even need to plug in -- cars could be charged via induction rails buried in the parking space. My toothbrush recharges this way already -- why not cars?

And then we could tell all the petrodollar nations to pound sand.

"$15 a barrel for your crude oil? No thanks. $10? Nope, don't need it."
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07-22-2006 01:46 AM  14 years ago
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So true.. Necessity is the mother of invention and sadly I think it will take $200 a barrel before anything meaningful happens."There is a fine line between cutting edge and bleeding edge.."
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07-22-2006 04:05 AM  14 years ago
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$200/barrel? Nah. I bet $100 could tip the scale.op-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-t
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07-22-2006 08:20 AM  14 years ago
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Well when and if we get this electric phenomena ironed out, like making batterys more efficient and getting more car makers to explore and hopefully build somethiing suitable for the long range. And even make it affordable instead of 80k, a car would go for 20k. I'm sure elecric cost will sky rocket and just think if we were being charged 10.00 per hour for electric usage. Something to ponder and think about. Jimmi
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07-22-2006 08:39 AM  14 years ago
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finally!!!!!!
An electric car that DOESN"T LOOK GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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