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07-21-2006 02:31 PM  14 years ago
flaming blades

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would it be ok to use the infinivations with a plastic head block or would there be a danger of cracking it.
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07-21-2006 03:43 PM  14 years ago
RockDoc

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I have been using a QuickUK metal headblock with the Red Tunder Tiger Dampers and they have been pretty good up to now - no boom strikes so far with 1950 head speed. However, i've just ordered a set of the new Thunder Tiger 3D Dampers from Midland Helicopters in the UK. These are part number A-PV1034 for the 30/50 and A-PV1035 for the 60/90. They are described as a 'hard plastic core with o-rings' and at only £2.98 a pair they are worth a try I guess

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07-21-2006 06:55 PM  14 years ago
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Flaming, if you are to the point where you would see a benefit from infinivation dampeners then its time to think about a metal head block.Andy
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07-21-2006 07:14 PM  14 years ago
flaming blades

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It is just I remember when jason krause was flying a raptor 50 completely standard with carbon extreme dampeners and people don't fly much harder than him and the raptor was fine. Usually i like to keep helicopters standard out of the box but if it would be silly not to use a metal head bloack with the infinivation dampeners just say.
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07-21-2006 07:19 PM  14 years ago
littleman

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it would be silly not to use a metal head bloack with the infinivation dampeners
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07-21-2006 08:05 PM  14 years ago
BarracudaHockey

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Its not the dampeners its how hard you push it.

If you are running an OS50 and want 17000 rpm out of the engine that means 2000 rpm at the head, then you are better off with a metal head block no matter what dampeners you use.
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07-21-2006 08:09 PM  14 years ago
littleman

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Maybe you guys know...the ad for those dampers say for metal heads only. So these cant be used w/ stock head??? thanks....Mark

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They will fit in the stock hub but it is not recommended cause it is such a hard ampener that it can break the hub off if forces are to strong. it is more of a safety precaution.
Jason
from http://www.teamraptor.net under forum, then raptor 30/50 topic is caleed invinivation dampers
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07-22-2006 03:17 AM  14 years ago
Ron Henry

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what dampners are you running in your new KASA** head? I ran the red ones in mine and found my cyclic response was great? In your opinion are the reds ok for everything but hard 3D? Or do you reccommend the infinavation for even basic 3D moves?
The reds are fine for basic 3D, but I'd recommend the infinivations for anything fairly hard. A big benefit that I see to them is that you don't have to replace them after every 2 cases of fuel. They really make the machine extra crisp and are a perfect compliment to the Kasama head.
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10-18-2006 03:17 PM  14 years ago
Yug

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Shimmed reds work well Vegetable rights and Peace
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10-19-2006 02:28 PM  14 years ago
w.pasman

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A big benefit that I see to them is that you don't have to replace them after every 2 cases of fuel.
What is happening to your dampers? I have been using them a lot longer than 2 cases. I must say my machine is not trouble free right now but I did not detect any problems with the dampers yet
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10-20-2006 01:52 AM  14 years ago
Yug

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What is happening to your dampers?
probably removed the pin.
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12-05-2006 01:28 AM  14 years ago
Yug

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The main problem with the plastic hub is that it can fracture (snap) at the jesus bolt hole - not good. The only other issue is because plastic 'creeps' the main shaft hole can end up a bit loose so it becomes a bit wobbly - tightening the jesus bolt will only strees the hub further.
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12-05-2006 03:02 AM  14 years ago
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The black paddles are 30g, white are 25g and the red/blue/green are 20g.

The white paddles will make it more responsive as will the red dampers compared to the blue/black. Make sure you lube the spindle/dampers and re-grease the thrust bearings. I like the white paddles for the type of flying your are describing.

Also, headspeed really plays into the responsiveness on your heli. My rule of thumb is if you are running above 1900 HS you should probably consider a metal hub. I have ran up to 2100 with the stock hub before someone tach'd it and said "hey, did you know..." so I start pulling the throttle curve down. I really like running 2050 on the head with green paddles.

IMO - most likely with the type of flying you are describing, a reasonable maintenance check and H.S. your plastic hub should be fine.
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12-05-2006 03:10 AM  14 years ago
JAGNZ

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Infinivations.
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