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07-20-2006 03:07 PM  14 years ago
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Raptor 50 dampeners
What are the best dampeners for a raptor 50 with a thunder tiger mettle head block for hard 3D. thanks
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07-20-2006 03:15 PM  14 years ago
Ron Henry

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I like the infinivations personally...- Ron Henry
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07-20-2006 03:19 PM  14 years ago
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Ron,

Do you know if the Infinivation dampeners will fit the Mavrikk metal head?

Thanks,

Jeff
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07-20-2006 03:25 PM  14 years ago
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I haven't personally verified, but I can't see why they wouldn't. The ID of the Mavrrick head is the same as the TT and Kasama which the Infinivations fit fine. I'm running the Kasama head with the Infinivations and other than the occasional bent spindle, there's no issue.- Ron Henry
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07-20-2006 03:27 PM  14 years ago
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i agree on the infinivations. I found that they took a few flight s to get used to, but overall they track/hold better in tic-tocs, and hurricanes.
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07-20-2006 03:28 PM  14 years ago
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I ran the infinivation dampeners in both the Maverikk and currently the QuickUK head, they fit fine in both.Andy
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07-20-2006 03:33 PM  14 years ago
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barracudahockey,

Thanks for the info.

Ron,
other than the occasional bent spindle
Why are you bending spindles? I don't think I've ever bent one in flight.

Jeff
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07-20-2006 03:43 PM  14 years ago
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I'm running 13.25 degrees of pitch both ways. Couple that with the infinivation dampners and metal blade grips, and the spindle ends up taking quite a beating. There's not much give anywhere in the head other than the blades and the little bit that the spindle moves in infinivations before they become "solid". If I make a mistake and load the head up too much in a manuever where I'm putting alot of cyclic in (like the top of a piro loop for ex.), the spindle can get tweaked. When I ran the red dampeners, this wasn't an issue. I kind of wish that TT went to an 8mm spindle in the 50s because this problem is only going to get worse once 620s become the norm.- Ron Henry
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07-20-2006 04:12 PM  14 years ago
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I have also bent a spindle on air with the infinavation dampners.
I also think an 8mm spindle would be a nice upgrade.

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07-20-2006 05:09 PM  14 years ago
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I'm using the TT red dampners with a Mav metal head. They work great...haven't tried the Infinations.

Paul
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07-20-2006 05:09 PM  14 years ago
w.pasman

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Just a thought, if you are bending spindles in flight, you must be breaking the head bearings in flight as well?
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07-20-2006 05:10 PM  14 years ago
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you must be breaking the head bearings in flight as well?
How do you "break" a bearing?


Jeff
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07-20-2006 05:26 PM  14 years ago
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Not sure that I know what you mean about breaking the head bearings...- Ron Henry
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07-20-2006 08:57 PM  14 years ago
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Ron
what dampners are you running in your new KASA** head? I ran the red ones in mine and found my cyclic response was great? In your opinion are the reds ok for everything but hard 3D? Or do you reccommend the infinavation for even basic 3D moves?
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David
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07-20-2006 09:07 PM  14 years ago
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Were is it that you can look at the Kasama head.
Thanks
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07-21-2006 12:37 AM  14 years ago
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I like the infinivation setup due to the lessened if not impossiblility of a boom strike in flight. Ive heard of people saying that with a metal head, and infins its hard as heck to have a boomstrike in flight, but u can DEFINATELY bend a spindle. I use to use the reds and they were ok but needed replacement periodically.
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07-21-2006 08:39 AM  14 years ago
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How do you "break" a bearing?
If you stress them hard enough the bearing balls press dents into the bearing scales. The bearing then gets notchy. A notchy bearing is a "broken" bearing.
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07-21-2006 10:03 AM  14 years ago
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If you stress them hard enough the bearing balls press dents into the bearing scales. The bearing then gets notchy. A notchy bearing is a "broken" bearing.
I have to agree, even in a standard setup a bent spindle often results in damaged blade grip bearings, most people just don't look for it
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07-21-2006 11:20 AM  14 years ago
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Can anyone tell me about the kasama head.
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07-21-2006 11:42 AM  14 years ago
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w.pasman
Yes the bearings brake as well but I have also break a feathering bearing without bending the spindle also.

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