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07-20-2006 04:36 AM  14 years ago
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ezellav

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Champion modernization
Getting back into the hobby after a lengthy absence. I discovered Runryder thanks to a heli friend and have been catching up on the evolution of RC Heli's during the past ten years.

Started back in with my Xcell 60 Custom (1993 vintage) equipped with an OS61SX. Also purchased a new GY401 gyro and 9254 servo as well as a Muscle Pipe I for the engine. The Heading Hold gyro technology is amazing! Unfortunately, I cracked a side frame so I had to tear down the Xcell for repairs.

While repairing the Xcell, I installed some of my gear in a Schluter Champion to have something to fly and get back in the swing of things. The OS61SX with the MPI really adds a lot of performance. However, now the tail is running out of authority at full pitch/power. I remember that Schluter made some 1:1 tail rotor gears which increased the tail rotor speed from the stock setup. Seems like they were for a couple of other machines too. Does anyone have a set they are willing to part with? Anyone tried simply turning the gears around? Seems that would be too much RPM though.

I have read some controversy about running HH gyros with wire tail drives? Does anyone have any experience with the Schluter or similiar models regarding this issue? I had some vibration in the servo trays which was causing the HH gyro to occasionally drift. I need to redial the clutch shaft and have relocated the gyro to a mount just aft of the main shaft. Been busy with work so still pending further flight testing.

Is there anyone else who has "modernized" any oldies?
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07-20-2006 05:58 AM  14 years ago
TMoore

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I've got a new Champion set up for 680 blades with a Futura tail box, 1:1 gears and internal pitch slider with a tube drive.

TM
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07-21-2006 01:26 PM  14 years ago
ezellav

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[/quote]>>I've got a new Champion set up for 680 blades with a Futura tail box, 1:1 gears and internal pitch slider with a tube drive.<<

How do you like it?
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07-21-2006 03:33 PM  14 years ago
TMoore

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Haven't flown it. It was originally slated to go in a BK 117 body I have and just haven't gotten around to it.

I flew the same machine with the long boom when I worked for Robbe. They fly fine.

TM
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07-21-2006 06:18 PM  14 years ago
Badgerfarm

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Terry,
What parts does it take to do the conversion? Is there any tricky to setting it up? I have 2 Champions that I'd like to convert too.

Thanks
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07-21-2006 08:06 PM  14 years ago
TMoore

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I used some Gold Futura tailbox parts a Scout tailboom, Scout boom clamp and tail casings and hand made the tube drive and adapters.

All of the Magic and Scout II parts will work. Take a look at the Scout and Magic plans and the part numbers are there.

TM
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07-29-2006 11:00 PM  14 years ago
DKTek

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Wow! I have a couple Champions as well. One is the first heli I owned and the other is a parts bird from a friend. I picked up the first one from MAS before they released the X/Cell back in 1985. I even got to fly with Mr. Walt Schoonard and sons behind the shop.

I haven't flown them in 12 yrs. because parts were thinning out. Is there a parts source for the Champion and what is this NEW Champion you mentioned? I also fly the Graphite 60 Custom that's been updated. Love it.

I wouldn't fly the Champion again but I'd love to get the airframes back in shape for the mantle. One only needs a canopy and flybar. If a source does exists, please post a link and thanx for the time travel.
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08-30-2006 08:54 AM  14 years ago
Norheli

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Wow! This was interesting.
Hi!
I have not flown my Champion for 10years. Last time it was winter and hard ground.
What I would like to know, could somone please help me to send a part list, so I could uppgrade it.
The reason is, I would realy like to get earborne again.
A friend of mine is getting 40years old and would like to learn how to fly RC-helicopter.
I need new blades and therfore might getting a longer tailboom?

Best regards
Norheli
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08-30-2006 02:03 PM  14 years ago
Heli-star

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Hi DK, the Champion is a great ship, parts are hard to find, I find mine on ebay, Midland helicopters in England, Canopys and other parts can be found also overseas at Helioldie.de, and slims, I think they are in Ohio. T Moore is also a expert on them.
Hope this helps, I think the ships they are talking about have been modified.
Bob Buff
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