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07-20-2006 01:51 AM  14 years ago
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ok well then I wouldn't say that the t-rex is out for hard 3d. Go watch a video and say that. Nope my headspeed stays pretty constant as I have good power and good collective management.
have you ever seen piroeting knife edge.
Sure have and I can do them.
old wasper had the same problem,he had an idea stuck in his head that this was soeme thing else, and he still argueing that point wich makes me laugh cause it isnt what he thinks it is.
Nice edit, Im not arguing that it chanes rpms like a blade cp, just that it has an individaul motor on the tail like the cp. Which in my opinion is pointless cuz the 401/9650 works so well. A waste of time cuz you could be flying instead. But everyone is entitled to there opinion, it is America. Oh wait maybe this doesn't apply to willy I don't know how it works in New Zealand. But i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and let you have yours.
he is good. but i need someone that can go to the next level.
Wow that's petty bold, you best get to searching! And be willing to pay them more then they are being paid currently. How good do you want the person to be?
Timing is everything
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07-20-2006 02:14 AM  14 years ago
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Go Willy, We would all be in the dark ages still if we did not progress and some pretty weird people and ideas have brought us into the future. Lack of forsight and ambition will make you stagnate.If you have an idea , get out and try it don't poohoo it before you have tried it. NASA would not be where it is if everybody said "oh that not any good we can do that now like this. There is always the possibility of a new way being better.
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07-20-2006 03:19 AM  14 years ago
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So you can't do 3d now, but making a better heli is going to make you be able to do 3d? The SE is more that capable right out of the box, you need to practice as a pilot. Don't get me wrong im all for innovation, but your tail with a seperate motor isn't going to be able to make the heli do things that a belt drive tail can't. I just dont understand your point. To tell you the truth im not happy or satisfied with my 3d skills...I don't ever think I will be, no matter how good i get. You just asked if I've seen knife edge piros, and yes I have, and the Rex with a belt drive tail does it just fine, your setup is going to work the same once perfected. There will be less things to go wrong, which is good, but as far as performance goes it will work just the same. By all means take it to the next level, but that's all pilot. Todays helis with all the modern gyros like the 611 make the tail work next to perfect. Theres very little room for a mechanical advantage with helis today, they all work so damn well. It's going to come down to the pilots abilities and creativity. If you dont know the stick inputs or heve the ability to enter them correctly, no mechanical advantage is going to help you (granted that you have one)Timing is everything
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07-20-2006 03:35 AM  14 years ago
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How long you been flying helis Willy?Timing is everything
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07-20-2006 05:21 AM  14 years ago
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Or.. you could always keep flying and make it a game of not crashing the heli while the parts go out (j/k). You gotta admit, that takes some balls! Though it is not something I make a regular practice of doing. IF that makes me a cowboy, then where's my damn horse!
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07-20-2006 05:28 AM  14 years ago
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at the end of that day i am just happy that we can all get along like one big happy family and discuss our dreams and ideas in harmony and peace
Damn... 6 pages of this and we're just finally talking of peace. <sigh of relief>
he is good. but i need someone that can go to the next level.
Hey Alan Jr... sorry, man, but your piloting skills just don't cut it in New Zealand. Now, if you show up with a Joker 2 and a Dauphin fus. with a custom paint job of sheep drinking Speights Gold Medal Ale in a pasture, you may have something. Other than that, if you've seen one Trex defy the laws of gravity by moving horizontally across the sky -- 1 foot off of the ground while the nose is perpendicular to the ground -- you've seen them all.

Joking aside, if I could just grow some balls and do in real life what I can do in RealFlight, I might actually call myself a pilot!
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07-20-2006 05:36 AM  14 years ago
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Damn... 6 pages of this and we're just finally talking of peace. <sigh of relief>
Hey no one said the other side called a cease fire. Saying things like Alan is good but not good enough to take it to the next level is what's going to keep this battle going on.
Timing is everything
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07-20-2006 05:43 AM  14 years ago
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Uh oh. Don't feed the bears... they bite!
(Willy: no worries... everyone loves ya, man. LOL)
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07-20-2006 02:54 PM  14 years ago
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you dont say that so fluently unless you have drank it?.
Nah, I just cheated and did a Google search.
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07-21-2006 06:05 AM  14 years ago
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Hey dudes...

I put the Heliup tail system on and what a difference! It's so much more solid than the Align tail. Vibration is practically nonexistent.

I also got a pair of Gorilla paddles in green. The Rotorworkz G4 frame flies like a dream with the stock paddles, but it still tends to move quickly into fore and aft cyclic, whereas these paddles smooth it out very nicely.

I'll try to post some pics soon.
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07-25-2006 06:34 AM  14 years ago
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That's a beautiful field to fly in!

The helis look pretty good, though I think I'd want to sit under the table and watch when your mate is flying.
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07-26-2006 03:47 AM  14 years ago
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I uploaded some photos... let me know your thoughts!
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07-26-2006 05:09 AM  14 years ago
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What are you talking about that my CCPM geometry is way off???? If you're thinking "because the mixing levers aren't orthogonal," look closely -- the servo arms and swash are down all the way, indicating that the battery was disconnected at full negative pitch, not zero)...

Regarding the gyro, it broke loose just this morning in mid-flight, so I threw on a zip tie until I can get new pads.
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07-26-2006 05:14 AM  14 years ago
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I don't know why they have so much trouble Eh Willy.
I have had Gyros on my Nitro's for years and still using the same tape. If they don't come off a nitro they wont come off an electric (unless you crash) Must be putting too much spit in the back of the tape. HeHe
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07-26-2006 05:28 AM  14 years ago
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It's not an optical illusion, but it is the way the HS65 servos sit in the Rotorworkz frame. The servo arms sit directly under the swash ball, so whether you mount the servo arm balls in the front or back, you won't get a perfectly vertical linkage mount. The HS56 servos were designed for this frame and they sit perfectly vertical, but I opted for the better setup; since swash travel on pitch is perfectly linear, it's a null issue.

I've flown many TRex's and by far, none fly as well as this does. If there was anything goofy going on, I'd have noticed it.
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07-26-2006 06:02 AM  14 years ago
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I understand your point and would theoretically agree with you, but again, if swash travel is perfectly linear, there's no point in worrying about it.

Since I'm into jazz, it's like saying that an A-flat won't work well over an F7 chord, since the A-natural and A-flat will clash, when in actuality, the two together form a perfect dissonance when releasing to a B-flat Maj7 chord. Do you see what I mean? lol

I kid you not -- this bird flies like a dream!
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07-26-2006 06:07 AM  14 years ago
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Regarding putting the balls on the other side, this is actually necessary with the HS56 servo. On the right side the ball mounts in the front, whereas on the left it mounts in the back. This forms a perfect orthogonal mount.

Regarding longer arms, I can get a full +-13 degrees travel with this setup. I'm "only" running 12 on each side, which does me just fine, and with very minimal bog using the Jazz, TP 4S and Neu 1107 2.5Y. Keep in mind that this frame is different than most as well...
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07-26-2006 06:11 AM  14 years ago
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CC is a piece of turd! I've had a CC 25, CC 35, Align 35 (2.5V BEC) and Align 35 (6V BEC). All are pieces of turd compared with the Jazz.

Have you ever flown a Jazz 40-6-18? If you did, was it in heli mode (#4)? It's the only ESC among the 3 that calibrates itself to the motor. It's also the easiest and fastest to setup among the 3 by far.
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07-26-2006 06:44 AM  14 years ago
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Coolness. Whatever works, right?
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07-26-2006 07:31 AM  14 years ago
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willy....
I think your variable pitch-DD motor driven tail set up is good/ even better in quality over the stock align tail set up.
I used to fly with fixed pitch DD tail motor set-up on my micro helis (piccolo FP/CP, HB FP/CP), and that's not a good set up for 3D flying style since that is a fixed pitch DD motor driven tail.
I would love to see your set up for 3D style, my personal opinion is that your variable pitch DD motor driven tail will hold the tail, the only down side is the mass weight at the end of the boom (pendulum effect)
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