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07-19-2006 05:37 AM  14 years ago
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There has to be another option then. Doing this makes things worse. More incocent people die and the terrorists kill more. Like in Iraq, scince the U.S came in, claming that there trying to help, they maid things worse. So mabye by "trying to help" Wink wink, there gona make things worse. Paterns We all see these patterns go on and on. By the way I do wacth fox and cnn. Fox gets boring though because they love bush alittle toooo much.Sammy
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07-19-2006 06:01 AM  14 years ago
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The pattern is actually Hizbollah neighborhoods and strongholds are being destroyed, as are conduits for their weapons. To be "eavenhanded" is to prolong the battle indefinately, and to play into their hand.

Unfortunately they have been allowed free reign in Lebanon, mainly because the islamofacist mentality still runs deep. Lebanon's military might split along sectarian lines if asked to stop Hizbollah, returning the country to civil war.

As CNN interviews the official Hizbollah spokesman, showing the destruction in the Hizbollah neighborhood, I cannot fail to notice the huge billboard picture of the Hizbollah leader hanging from the side of the building. Thank you CNN for giving the Hizbollah leadership and international voice. The voice of terrorism. It is clear to me that the destruction is well placed.

Lebanese, to the man, should turn on Hizbollah and kill every one of them for the consequences they have brought to their country which was just blossoming after the end of their awful civil war. Now all is lost, and they can start over. They can blame Isreal, but that will not bring the change needed.

Terrorism must be destroyed completely, there is no other choice. Most Arab countries have joined the world of nations and are enjoying the comforts of peace and prosperity. Lybia got it right finally, what is taking the others so long?
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07-19-2006 06:13 AM  14 years ago
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Well Sammy, let me give you my viewpoint.
There has to be another option then. Doing this makes things worse. More incocent people die and the terrorists kill more. Like in Iraq, scince the U.S came in, claming that there trying to help, they maid things worse
Yes, I would like to see another option, but no one seems to come up with one. If some group were hurling unguided rockets at your city and said they were going to kill you and all your family, what options do you think would be appropriate, considering the local goverment where these rocket launchers are located, were powerless to stop them (In this case, the Lebanise goverment).

Now as for "they maid things worse." Are you sure about that. Have you polled a cross section of the Iraque population. It seems the election was pretty popular, something the Iraqi pepole hadn't been able to do in a long time. Remember, the news only shows what eye poping stories about suicide bombers that sells papers or ratings, not the mundane part about building schools, bringing the police force up to standards, rebuilding the infrastructure that Saddam let fall apart while he built his palaces.

I have an army officer relative who has spent many years in Iraqi and his story is 90% of the Iraqis are better off by ther own addmission, the economy is growing, they are no longer afraid of secret police, which made thousands disappear under Saddm's rule.

Any way Sammy, keep up the thought process and asking questions with an open mind. Im going off the air for the night.
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07-19-2006 10:29 AM  14 years ago
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SuperCobra,
But why is this a war with Lebanon
The war isn't with Lebanon, only against the Hizbullah. The problem is that the Hizbullah operate from inside cevilience population. Belive me if the Hizbullah was not operated from inside cevilence population it wuld have been distroyed allrady. The onlly rison the Hizbullah is still operating is because that Israel is carfull not to hurt Lebanon and its cevilience to much.

nextstepheli,
Hey, great gallery my friend. You should be used by your milatary to build spy cameras and mabe even some choppers to deliver presicion ordenance
Thanks, bro
As for helping the army with my helis - I wish. But they have much better UAVs then my helis - belive me.
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Have a nice day :)
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07-19-2006 11:07 AM  14 years ago
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just wandering does anyone know if the guys from isreal that are in 3d masters are going to still come over. more importantly are they ok.

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07-19-2006 11:34 AM  14 years ago
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Wendy, they are OK and will go to 3DM.

thanks for asking.
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07-19-2006 03:54 PM  14 years ago
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Eran
But they have much better UAVs then my helis
Maybe so, but with your skills I bet you could make valuable additions and add your considerable flying skills to help.
As somebody said, you can tell an Israeli from an terroist by looking in the eyes, One has pride and intelligence, the other hate and hate. No need to tell you which is which.
The case against politicians simply is that when they legislate for all men, they always omit themselves
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07-19-2006 04:22 PM  14 years ago
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Did you here the statement made by one of the leaders of Hezbollah? He said Israelis fight to preserve their peace and way of life. We fight because we want to die and gladly give up our children to martyrdom. We are happy when our children die in the name of Allah. That pretty much says it all. Doesn't leave many options does it.

I'm glad the Israelis, USA and others are accommodating them.
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07-19-2006 04:34 PM  14 years ago
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lowandslow

that quote should be the front page headline in the NYT instead of "all the treason that is fit to print"

Our only choice is to oblige them in reaching their chosen destiny. The sooner the better. The president of Iran has made similar statements on a national basis, in order to expedite the return of the 12th imam (armageddon / rapture / end of days). It will be the end of Iran only, and there will be no appearance of any fabled 12th imam, or any other prophecy either for that matter. I don't believe in prophecy for a minute. I believe in freedom, and peace through superior firepower. Which we have.

Folks need to wake up and realize what this war is about
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07-19-2006 04:57 PM  14 years ago
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Yeah, you'll never see that printed on any headlines. Most people are completely ignorant to what's really going on.

Islam is a religion that is based in mysticism, spells, genies and idol worship. They call us the infidels but it fact Islam is very much a pagan religion that still to this day worships heavily bodies and weird little idols. Allah is a "Moon God." The reason why they go to Mecca is to walk around this little box that contains a meteor they believe feel from space. They also face Mecca when they pray.

Islam originally had 365 Gods they worshiped (That's where we get our modern day calendar). Back in the day, no one was buying a religion that worshiped so many Gods. Mohamed turned Islam into a monotheistic religion that worshiped only one God "Allah" which was their Moon God. Worshiping one God was an easer sell to the masses.

Like I said, Islam is not a religion of peace. They are commanded to convert to world to Islam by force if necessary. That's why they hate the Jews so much and western culture in general.
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07-19-2006 05:01 PM  14 years ago
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and that deserves an "Amen "Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again
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07-19-2006 06:15 PM  14 years ago
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Wouldn't it be great if there were 60+ virgins waiting on the other side for these suicide bombers. Only the virgins are female swine (pigs and hogs) !!!!The case against politicians simply is that when they legislate for all men, they always omit themselves
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07-19-2006 06:26 PM  14 years ago
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Belive me Israel is here to stay even if wee need to live here by the sword like we have done for more then 100 years allrady.
IAF i strongly agree with you. Israel will never see peace till the end of time but they will never lose any war they fight even if the whole world is against them they would triumph. Do not mess with God's chosen people as small as they are they can take on anybody, the only reason Israel puts up with these trouble makers is because they want to be part of the civilised world if they wanted to completely wipeout the whole of the Arab would they could without breaking a sweat.
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07-19-2006 10:08 PM  14 years ago
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haha " isreal could wipe out the whole arab world without a sweat"


that has to be the most ignorant statement i have heard to date! talk about arrogance..


If they are so much god "chosen"people then why has he been letting them get there butts kicked for the last 2000 years???
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07-20-2006 01:20 AM  14 years ago
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that has to be the most ignorant statement i have heard to date! talk about arrogance
I think he was referring to the nuclear and tactical nuclear weapons.
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07-20-2006 02:41 AM  14 years ago
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"Yeah, you'll never see that printed on any headlines. Most people are completely ignorant to what's really going on.

Islam is a religion that is based in mysticism, spells, genies and idol worship. They call us the infidels but it fact Islam is very much a pagan religion that still to this day worships heavily bodies and weird little idols. Allah is a "Moon God." The reason why they go to Mecca is to walk around this little box that contains a meteor they believe feel from space. They also face Mecca when they pray.

Islam originally had 365 Gods they worshiped (That's where we get our modern day calendar). Back in the day, no one was buying a religion that worshiped so many Gods. Mohamed turned Islam into a monotheistic religion that worshiped only one God "Allah" which was their Moon God. Worshiping one God was an easer sell to the masses.

Like I said, Islam is not a religion of peace. They are commanded to convert to world to Islam by force if necessary. That's why they hate the Jews so much and western culture in general."

That is not true. Im muslim and my mom is catholic, and thats not how it started at all. First of all the religion never has anything to do with hate or conversion or trying to kill. That is wrong and people are narrow minded on how this religion works. Just because you see terrists blow them selves up dosent mean Islam teaches this. No, those terorists are the people who take it too far and change and tweek this religion so they can kill. Islam never says anything about killing or hate, its just those stupid terorists that do that and the public thinks all muslims do that. Actully if u read both bibles islam and chrstian's, you wouldent belive the strikeing simalritys. You got it all wrong. Along time ago people belived in idols and worshiped them. That came first the idols and wierd stuff like that, then mohamad founded islam. Not the other way around.
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07-20-2006 03:02 AM  14 years ago
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Why is it that the Quran tells Muslims to kill the infidel, and there is no god but Allah. Muslims cannot befriend a Christian or Jew,and are allowed to kill the infidel. ????? It's your book, have you read it???????????????Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again
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07-20-2006 03:14 AM  14 years ago
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Mosques are often firebases

Warring muslim sects attack each other's mosques routinely

The practice is often to preach destruction of Isreal, terrorism, war and martyrdom. Certainly not at all mosques, but at too many.

So we are not confused by islamofacism. And religion has a fundamental role.

Maybe there will be a reformation in the muslim community to put a stop to this murderous segment masquerading as a religion.
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07-20-2006 03:20 AM  14 years ago
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Im not a religios person AT ALL. Im preaty sure it wouldent try to do anything bad. Im preaty sure evry religion has something wierd like that writin somewhere. You got to understand not evryone in a middle eastern country supports blinded killing's. Alot do but not all. As for that statement "Kill all infidles" I have no idea where that came in, but it might be that it could get manupilated over the years. Im preaty sure they change alot of stuff in alot of the major religions too. For me, I dont just read things and think its true, u have to listen to your self to know if you think its right or not, unfortently some people over there dont do that. They take it way to seriosley. All religons have its ups and downs. As for reading the book, no i havent scince i was a small child (6). Im not very religios.Sammy
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07-20-2006 03:42 AM  14 years ago
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Hello Sammy" Here is you some good reading, might get you to open your mind and start thinking" Http://www.biblia.com/islam/islam.htm
Take some time to get informed. You will never have a Muslim buddy, it's against his religion. You are an infidel. , unless you are Muslim. Thats the rule.
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