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07-18-2006 01:13 PM  14 years ago
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Not trying to po anybody this time but any idea how much of the world economy is driven by war ei. arms sales, defence, security?
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07-18-2006 02:18 PM  14 years ago
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Since when does the government care how much money it makes? You really think that the billions and billions of dollars we are spending on the war will be made up by slightly higher tax collected from higher fuel prices? That has to be the most absurd logic i have ever heard. Any chance your parents are cousins? or did you just happen to drop out of 5th grade math?favorite quote, no honey thats the same helicoptor i have always had
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07-18-2006 02:21 PM  14 years ago
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My 2 cents....Can someone explain to me why the Israeli’s and the West seem to think its ok to invade chunks of Palestine, then bomb the heck out of the indigenous population when they revolt against it?
Under this analogy perhaps its logical to supply the American Red Indians with Nuclear weapons and arms, so that the Indians can start reclaiming the USA as their religious homeland too.
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07-18-2006 02:29 PM  14 years ago
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Watch out for the laser guided tomahawks and the nuclear cruise arrows!!!!
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07-18-2006 03:09 PM  14 years ago
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pigs dont fly,
Take a look at the globe. Israel is one of the smallest countrys in the world. The Arabs including the "Plaestinian" have huge teritoris. Where do you want the Jews to go?
Israel have no broblem for Arab to live inside it as long as they are not involve in teror activity agains it.
The Arabs don't wont Israel to exist. We have no choice but to fight for our right to live.
Israel will not kill any one unless they try to kill us in the first place.
Have a nice day :)
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07-18-2006 04:00 PM  14 years ago
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Hi IAF, IMO the Jews should have been resettled in the USA after WW2, then there wouldn’t be all this mess, it was a dumb idea to put you back there, all that its done is to cause bloodshed and wasted money.
The Arabs see you guys as invaders..which to all intents and purposes the Israeli people are, 2000 years is a long time ago, far far to long to have any kind of a claim over something. Add to this the way the indigenous population were booted out, and the way the Israeli’s keep on and on grabbing bits of land that doesn’t belong to them, I'm not surprised the Arabs hate you. Couple this with the huge support from the Americans (who the Arabs see as trying to take over the world, and have good reason to see this) and there's a recipe for disaster.
As to where to go now? Probably an idea to emigrate to the USA and leave them all to it.
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07-18-2006 04:09 PM  14 years ago
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One thing you have to understand as a whole, Islam divides the world into two halves. Those of the faithful (Islamic) and those who they are at war with until judgment day. (Read the Quran) Their goal is the subjugation of planet earth to Islam, by the sword if necessary. Very different from other religions.

Wouldn't matter if the Jews were in the middle east or anywhere else. They will always be a target, just as the west is in general or any one who is not Islamic. Islam is the worlds fastest growing religion and it is not a religion of peace...Do some research.

Like I stated before. The Palestinians already have a state that was setup just for them. It's called Jordan. Study some History (Not the 6 o'clock news) and find out what is and has been going on in the Middle East since the early 40's.

BTY, can you tell me what an Arab is? If you also do some research on Middle Eastern Tribes going back all the way to "Bible times" you may find out some interesting things about "Arabs."
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07-18-2006 04:18 PM  14 years ago
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I tend to agree that if us allies hadn't created Israel after ww2 we would be in the same position somewhere else in the world.
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07-18-2006 04:34 PM  14 years ago
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Who were the arabs fighting before 1948? Each other constantly.

It is insulting to suggest that Isreal be abandoned. Suggest all you want, Isreal is going nowhere.

The arabs have made their situation what it is. Bloodshed is their way of life. Don't blame Isreal. They need to come out of the 14th century. Saudi, Egypt, UAE, Quatar and even Lybia have figured it out. There is not reason for the others not to join the world of peaceful nations.

Wars are won and lost, and borders are a reflection of this reality. Maybe you think that the American Southwest should be returned to Mexico given that they sold it to us for such little money. Perhaps the Louisina Purchase should be given back to the French and Alaska should be given back to whoever we bought it from? Heck, maybe all the white Americans should be forced to return to Europe too.
keepin' it real
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07-18-2006 04:45 PM  14 years ago
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Pigs don't fly
Before you go and show us how little you know on this subject why don't you go here and do a little reading.


http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html
Dan
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07-18-2006 04:48 PM  14 years ago
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People need to take the time and understand what Islam really is about. That is the bottom line, the key to understanding. The Jews have always been hated by the Muslims but as a whole it's much much larger than that.
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07-18-2006 04:50 PM  14 years ago
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pigs dont fly
Are you nuts, or are you a muslim ?? Maybe both are the same thing . I'm not of Jewish background, but I love these pepole. They are hard working, creative, industrious and proud. Just look at who is the strongest in that region, and who is the smallest. I think it's almost, no, it is unbelievable what they (Israel) have done since 1948. Get a little history in your head, if thats possible.
Man,if I were younger I would volinter to go help fight terroist over in Israel, even if I can't spell it.
How come you won't post your location (Country and general area) ? Are you to ashamed of what you say and it might reflect on your area.
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07-18-2006 05:29 PM  14 years ago
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lol...Cobblers!...
If you think half the Islamic's in the world are out to kill the infidel then you need a reality check.
'Wouldn't matter if the Jews were in the middle east or anywhere else'....How many Jews are attacked inside the US on religious grounds?

The Palestinian state was..set up just for them, yes by the British, which was then ripped apart by the UN in sympathy for the Jews who had just undergone the Holocaust in WW2. More than half the territory, including the valuable coastal strip, was allotted to the Jews, who only owned about 6% of the land.

Arabs are the indigenous tribes and cultures of the Middle East..yes they have had some dubious history.
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07-18-2006 05:34 PM  14 years ago
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pigs dont fly

You are very misinformed person.
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07-18-2006 05:57 PM  14 years ago
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Yo Piggy
who the Arabs see as trying to take over the world, and have good reason to see this)
Oh yea ! I guess we (USA) own Japan, Part of Germany, Italy as part of the WWII conquest. Now add Afganestan, and Iraiq. Mabe we should call them states of the USA ? You are either a skin head or a conspiracy nut, and you are an Idiot. That said, I am done with you !!
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07-18-2006 06:41 PM  14 years ago
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This situation is based solely on religion. The Islamic faith teaches that Mohammad was the last prophet. The reason Israel is so important to the Islamic faith is because Mohammad was taken up to god and returned to earth there. Islamic followers have 3 very important cities, Mecca, Medina and Israel. The difference between the Islamic faith and Christians and Judaism are the prophets. The Koran was only rewritten 3 times. The last being done by an illiterate prophet named Mohammad. The bible was pretty much rewritten by every king that disagreed with it. Now before you start your flames, I’m in the Service, I’ve been to Iraq for 18 months and I’m catholic. I just think that it is important to know your enemy and why they consider you an enemy. As for the situation, maybe it is a tad overkill. Is the conspiracy theory of 2003 coming true?
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07-19-2006 01:26 AM  14 years ago
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Pigs dont fly,
Probably an idea to emigrate to the USA and leave them all to it.
This is a stupid Idea. I don't see how 6 million Jews are willing to live Israel to any place in the world. And I don't see any place in the world willing to get 6 million imigrents.
Belive me Israel is here to stay even if wee need to live here by the sword like we have done for more then 100 years allrady.
Hopfully one day the Arabs will understand we are not going from here and will accept us as a neighbor country.
Have a nice day :)
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07-19-2006 02:24 AM  14 years ago
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Hey, I'm with you 100%, just wish I could come over and help you guys kick some sense into the terroist. Hey, great gallery my friend. You should be used by your milatary to build spy cameras and mabe even some choppers to deliver presicion ordenance (can't spell, I'm a retired egganeer). Man would that be great, gps and vidio guided expendable model choppers for you to play with. I bet they would be a lot cheaper than those 155 mm cannons you guys are using.
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07-19-2006 04:55 AM  14 years ago
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I dont have any problem with Israel next to the arab country. Im half arab and I dont see why they want to kick out all of the Israeles. That sounds sellfish. But why is this a war with Lebanon i thought it was a war with those terorists. The whole country isnt a teroorist. Also bush is making it worse by giving free evrything to isreal and bombing all the time. I understand they have a goal but its harming inocent people. Bush gave them the OK to do so.Sammy
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07-19-2006 05:14 AM  14 years ago
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Hey Sammy,
You sound level headed, keep watching the news, both CNN & Fox and make up your own mind.
But why is this a war with Lebanon i thought it was a war with those terorists. The whole country isnt a teroorist.
Well Sammy, even Israel has stated they are not at war with Lebanon, only the hezbollah who unfortunatly embed themselves inside civilian areas, sort of using civilans as shields. In fact Israel has stated they want the Lebanon military to line up along the border and eliminate the hezbola as a miltary armed force.. In effect, Israel is asking Lebanon to help eliminate the armed hezbollah force.
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