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07-22-2006 11:47 PM  14 years ago
OICU812

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Ultimately in any country, society, religion once their leaders are voted in
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Anyone else see the glowing error in this statement?
Havoc you did not understand what I said did you???

The glowing error is you voted in your president, you are responsible for voting him in. He represents you as a country, very simple. I am not into hugging my nearest terrorist, and to say that is just plain rude of you, like some Americans think we live in dam igloos, while it is over 95 degrees outside on my temperature guage, lol. Anyone who can not understand my statement is ignorant imho. All I am saying is be accountable for your actions and mistakes, every countries leader has made a mistake at some point in history which will be talked about for years to come. Saying or thinking everything that your country does or has done is and always has been the right thing to do,,,,is wrong. "if that made sense, lol"

Sand land can fight all they want, kill each other daily over there for all I care, they been doing it for years and it will never end, regardless of what anyone thinks. For any country or civilization to think they are going to change their beliefs and ways of living over there are crazy. Half the problem is trying to influence them to be different and so fourth, they want to be crazy, let them, just keep that crap over there. A higher power has a way of keeping population under control in the past and in the future, let it be I say.

The sad part of the whole situation over there right now is not the Lebanese people or the Isreal people, it is the other super powered countries like China, Russia, Japan etc... being involved. I can tell you one thing if you ever had China or North Korea get real serious, you may as well get your bomb shelter ready becuase that would be world war and one enemy that USA would never be able to dominate alone, not a chance. That would suck, can't fly rc helis in clouds of radiation.
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07-23-2006 05:04 AM  14 years ago
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I don't think you got my point. You are spoiled if you think every country, society, and religion votes in their leaders. We have it lucky in that regard. I'm just glad we didn't take the same hands off approach to Hitler that you claim to want for the Middle East.
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07-23-2006 05:52 AM  14 years ago
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Havoc, man oh man nice comment there pal. Who said I wanted a Hitler hands off approach for middle east? What kind of freaking comment is that? I would really like to know how you come to this idea....I thought you may understand some of what I had said but sadly you understood none. The fact that some problems that other countries have should be left alone is maybe what you are not understanding, maybe not all countries in the world want or need a McDonalds. I don't live there and it is not my problem, I am not going to try to change their ways of living or push my style of living on them, I could give a rats arse what they do over there, and frankly getting involved in over half of what they do over there is a waste of time and peoples lives is all, now if that makes me some sort of Nazi to you, then you really are silly "being very nice I am". By the way I am not spoiled I have many relatives that have been and are currently in war, so I am not ignorant to the fact of it and why it happens. Now do not make me call you to the monkey bars, lol....Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
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07-23-2006 07:04 PM  14 years ago
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more pontificating from the do-nothing Canadians

send your team to Iran or Syria to show us how your approach will make peace for the rest of us.
keepin' it real
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07-23-2006 07:17 PM  14 years ago
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Hey guys, I think I found a cure for this Jihad, holy war, religious crap. I was sitting here pondering the situation, when suddenly, I had a "VISION", it was almost "HOLY" It had to gome from "GOD".
Here is what it was: First, here in the United States, only, we draft all the preaches and would be preachers. Then we send all of em, must be 4 or 5 million of em, to the Mideast; Scatter em all over. When they get there, you what they will do, start Prosletizing all them poor Muslims. Probably less than 30 days after arriving, they will have them all so confused, just like here in the US, that they will lay down their arms, and go home to spend the rest of their lives, trying to figure all that stuff out.
What do you think, sound like a plan?????
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07-23-2006 08:08 PM  14 years ago
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Hey Stet it is comments like that is the reason many Americans buy Canadian patches to wear on their clothes so they are treated with a smile rather than a face of disgust when travelling, been to Cuba lately,, oh didn't think so. I live in western Canada where when the USA went to Iraq actually supported the idea but I guess you do not know nothing about that huh? CNN didn't cover that so you just don't know HUH? I bet you also don't know that over half your power in your state comes from Canada to HUH? In fact over half of western USAs power comes from big brother above. Oh and while where at it I bet you didn't know that a mass majority of your natural gas that comes in the Alliance pipeline to Chicago comes from Canada as well. I bet if I shut off the valve or cut the power you might have some more appreciation in many ways for Canada than you do now. There are more resources in my back 40 than Texas has or ever has had, but I am sure in Los Angeles that is all irelevant cause I am sure you do not think that you need anyone and that your country is completely self supportive in every way.
I did not chose for our leader to take the approach they did, nor do I approve of it. This in regards to the kind of comment you made towards Canadians. When I have travelled in the world you hear several comments like Americans being the most arrogant people there are, but yet I have met and know many nice American people. I live right beside the Alaskan highway, I meet and see several of them daily on their quest to Alaska. That being said I have an open mind to Americans and do not think they are all war mongers or that they are all arrogant or that they all have the same opinions as their leader. Now that being said do not refer to me or anyone on this board as all Canadians, because I am one person with my one opinion that simple. Sorry to get off topic abit but it is apparent some people know nothing or little of my country, most times the ones closest to us. When I grew up here we learned about several countries, their leaders, their political history and so fourth, in fact I would say as much about USA as our own government and country. I wish they would implement that into other countries education systems even just a little bit and it would save silly comments by some people.
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07-23-2006 08:21 PM  14 years ago
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its comments like yours that make you look like an ahole

come here and I will show you some disgust

Anti US sentiment is always chic in Europe and Canada I suppose

That is not new with GWB, has been all along, oh so easy oh so chic

The us does not need your approval. Keep your muslim terrorists in your borders and out of our territory please

So are we reviled even more than the french? You have those too, how is the separatism going?

keep selling your global warming oil, while whining about global warming.
keepin' it real
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07-23-2006 09:43 PM  14 years ago
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Stet,
Don't you just those those Canadian's? They live off of us Americans and then complain and whine like babies...Global warming...help my igloo is melting!!!
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07-23-2006 10:21 PM  14 years ago
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Rotor,People in America are dependent on evry country in the world. Canada is a large contributor to the u.s and so is most of the world. America wouldent be as powerfull with out the help of others. You like to think that the u.s got its power all by its self like a big boy. With out even takeing any look at all the contributers to the u.s. O ya, you cant handle the thought of another country helping the u.s huh. Is it to much for you to handle. Face it America cant do anything on its own.

Stet you dont look at other opinions. Thats what happens when you have to much pride in something that is wrong.


"Anti US sentiment is always chic in Europe and Canada I suppose"

Why is it that evrytime someone makes comment's about the u.s, people in the u.s think there anti American. So if I or anyone else has a diffrent view on which presdent bush has, were a terorist?
Sammy
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07-23-2006 11:07 PM  14 years ago
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Stet, you are far to uneducated to argue with me, your ignorance shines brightly. The fact that you speak from the wrong orifice of your body makes you dumber by the moment. Our country is not in seperatisim, nor do we embrace terrorists. Rotor we do not live off of you and as I look at my thermometer at 98 degrees I wonder how you can make an idiot statement about my so called igloo, btw learn how to spell and have better grammer. I seriously think you either need to go back to school or perhaps be abit more open minded about other countries, their people and what they do for the world, the world is not all about you and your country and there is no number 1 so get off your horse, smell the roses and wake the fak up. Done with a few of you clowns, you just are not in key enough to know what is going on outside your little box. At least a few people here understand what others do in fact do for them and how we can help each other, I do not hate americans or anything that they do, I do not agree with some things that my own country does either, in the end allot of it is out of my hands as it is with many people.
As cobra had said, not everyone who makes a comment about US is "anti american", and certainly does not make them a home of terrorisim. How do you even know I am Canadian and not american myself?, where I live does not necessarily make me who or what I am, it is my opinion, my beliefs and so fourth that I will pass on down to my children that is more important to me.

Anyways I am done with this thread, it was supposed to be about Isreal and Lebanon, not a your country is better than mine silly thing.
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07-24-2006 01:09 AM  14 years ago
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if there were no arabs this world would be a happier place))


I think they feel the same way about the USA
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07-24-2006 01:15 AM  14 years ago
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And the correct location for the trouble makers is,"Ground Zero."Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again
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07-24-2006 02:01 PM  14 years ago
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OICU812, talk about spelling!! Better check yours over dude! What a crock, you are way out there. You might want to come back and join the real world. Oh, by the way, if you have one, bring your brain back with you. And, it is anyway not anyways. If you haven't been out of your "ice hut" lately you might want to do that. While you're out look at all of the American companies you see. You just don't get it. After reading your posts I think you should get off of the computer before your mom catches you on it...My motto is this..Fly...Rebuild...Fly
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07-24-2006 09:37 PM  14 years ago
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For you guys who hold CNN as a quality and credible news source:

http://newsbusters.org/node/6552

There must be a contest going on in the media to see who can be the next Dan Rather.
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07-25-2006 12:33 AM  14 years ago
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Looking at all the midia reports it is hard not to think that we (the Israelis) are the bad guys and the "Palestinian" and Lebanonis peaple are the victems. Only by looking at the full picture one can understand that Israel is the underdoog fighting for its sorvivel among 300 million people siking its distruction.
Lebanon say that 350 cevilience have been killed by Israel. It may be true but considering that the Hizballa is using humens as living shilds it is inavetable that some will get hurt and killed. Israel is telling by liflets and spikers every time it is going to bomb a Hizbulla place where they may be cevilience, giving them time to get out.
Allso many of the Lebanonis "cevilience" that are killed are not innocent as they are hiding Hizbulla fighters and emunition in there homes and some time even lonch rokets to Israel from special rooms inside there houses.
Have a nice day :)
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07-25-2006 12:41 AM  14 years ago
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Keep doing what you are doing, and forget the liberal news media. All they want is ratings and bye going a little south, they keep it stirred up. The US is on your side, regardless and most Americans that I know , concur. We are destined to catch some more hell from it, but we either fight now, or fight later. All of the west has been at war with these people for over 30 years, right here in the US, so buck up and keep trucking.Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again
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07-25-2006 12:55 AM  14 years ago
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Thanks for the seport jimco,
Israel allso have allot of casualtis - soldiers and cevilience in this war.
Today another Apachi Longbow crushed for unknown rison and the two pilots died. Here is a picture of the pilot, name Tom and may he rest in peace.

Another Israely KIA at the age of 23.
Have a nice day :)
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07-25-2006 01:00 AM  14 years ago
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Thanks for the pic. Give his family my regards. This whole thing is really BS. I don't understand why we have to have people that live to kill. Seems like the Mideast is being eaten alive by this radical cancer. It is spreading to the West at a terrible speed, and someone has got to stop it. War for the sake of war, is total bull s--t. Believe me, we will prevail, or no one will prevail.Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again
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07-25-2006 01:49 AM  14 years ago
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Provoked....

Sounds like some have forgotten what started this most recent turmoil... Hezbola tunneled under the border and killed/kidnapped some soldiers. So Israel has every right to be pissed and take action. They were provoked. As for the Lebanese government.... They condone the Hezbola actions and don't take measures to prevent them so they are just as guilty. The people that help them are not innocent. Failure to take action is a concious decision and makes them no longer innocent. Israel.... Do what you gotta do.

War..... How do you win a war??? Can anyone tell me? You must destroy the enemies will to fight. Period. End of discussion. None of this touchy feely sh1t. Remove the will to fight by any means necesary.


As for Iraq.... Well I'm here. I have a question for all you people that disagree with this war. Would you rather this stuff be on our turf like 9-11 or would you like all the foreign fighters to come to a place like this and blow each other up? Remember we have an all voluteer force over here so don't feel sorry for any of us. I would rather it be happening here than at my home. Something else to remember. The military has more people killed per year in vehicle accidents than over here. Maybe that will put it in perspective for you. It sucks to be here but it's a small price to pay to know my Son isn't dealing with this crap at home. I personally think some good old fashioned a$$ whipping. I'm talking bomb the sh1t out of this place like in an old WWII film. 100's of bombers in the air at once and just drop everything you can find on these clowns. Sheds, toasters, bricks, etc. If you can find it I say throw it in the plane. Maybe they would shut the hell up and do something for themselves.
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07-25-2006 02:04 AM  14 years ago
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Hey Shawg> I agree with you 100%. Trouble I have, is that your life is not worth one F ing Iraqi. You should be home with your family, instead of mediating a dispute between two radical religious groups, that love the way they live. I just talked my stepson out of going back to Camp Anaconda, with KBR. I don't want him coming home in that cute little box that the US furnishes. Where is General LeMay, and General MacArthur , when you need em. It's time for the B52's and Cruise's. You guys need to be home to protect us here, because it's coming. Good luck guy, don't want your name on the list. 2550 and climbing, thats Bull S--t. We were told that we won, don't think so. Later, and be careful. JimcoHoney, where's the check book, it's Fedex again
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