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07-18-2006 04:25 PM  14 years ago
aashu

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What do you recommend for tail
The build is coming along well. Only a few minor issues so far..

At one or 2 places I found that the threads on aluminum were not all the way through specially the servo mount positions.

Swash plate seemed to catch while giving it some cyclics. So I hooked up the mtotr to the battery , dropped a tiny bit of oil on swash where the movement takes place (spherical part) and ran the motor at 15% throttle for about 10 sec. That fixed it !

The small steel bolts (1.5mm I guess) - the hex driver slips on a few , replaced with standard black bolts .

the cyclic arms connecting to the washout and to the swash have slightly darker anodizing not sure if they are supposed to be like that.

Overall it seems like a nice machine. I am hoping to fly it soon. With kids and work, it is harder to get some spare time

I found out that I had HS56HB servos everywhere but tail has a HS50. What should I get as a replacement since that servo seems cheap. I am using a GY240. Also planing on replacing the BERG DSP2 with a Futaba 146i

Will post pictures soon
Garden State, NJ
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07-18-2006 05:36 PM  14 years ago
darkside212

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Nice review! I spray a little CRC silicone (available at wally world for $2)

it is really nice because it doesn't attract dirt/debris.

I also suggest you get a allen wrench from a HS store: the ones that come with the kit aren't the hardest metal, and they strip easy.


Keep us posted
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07-18-2006 06:44 PM  14 years ago
aashu

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Thanks Paul. In fact I am using very high quality allen drivers

Any tail servo recommendations ?
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07-18-2006 06:56 PM  14 years ago
darkside212

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the HS50 is good if you have one use it.

My understanding is that the GY240 is analog....I personally use a TPSG50. I had an hs50 which is the same as the tpsg50 IMHO. The SG50 holds the tail pretty decent. I do get a little wag if I punch the collective, but I have no problems with that. If you would like to try one let me know.
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07-18-2006 11:15 PM  14 years ago
Isaac F

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My understanding is that the GY240 is analog
I am pretty sure the GY240 is digital. Check it and it has to have a small dip swith to select between Digital and Analog.

My experience are only with the GY401 that is very similar to the GY240......But I am not completely sure about the 240. So better make a search here or ask on the main forum.

Do not use it in Digital Mode with a analog servo or the servo will be FUBAR!

Also, I have read in several forums that people use the Futaba Digital Mini Servo thats cost like $50.00 when using Heading Hold Futaba Gyros.

Good luck,

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07-19-2006 12:19 AM  14 years ago
darkside212

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The Gy240 is analog. Most people skip it and go for the 401 because it does support digital/analog.

I would only get the digital servos if I was in competition or even worthy of them
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07-20-2006 10:33 PM  14 years ago
Isaac F

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Since the GY240 is analog, what is the best analog servo for use with it in Heading Hold??

THX,

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07-20-2006 11:04 PM  14 years ago
darkside212

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HS50, TPSG50, or JRSM8 IMHO

I've used all three.
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07-21-2006 01:03 AM  14 years ago
kcasner

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The Gy240 is analog. Most people skip it and go for the 401 because it does support digital/analog.
That's incorrect...

Page 1, Section 1 of the GY240 manual
"High-speed, high-precision control realized by digital
advanced control by microcomputer."

Page 1, Section 2 of the GY240 Manual
"Control system: Digital advanced PI (Proportional Integration) control"

The gy240 is digital, and the reasons why people choose the gy400 over the gy240 is because it's 4 times faster, supports remote gain, and you can limit the travel at the gyro. At 70hz you won't burn up an analog, or gain performance by having a digital servo; however, at 270hz (gy401) you will gain performance and an analog servo would burn up... hence the reason it supports digital.

http://www.futabarc.com/radioaccys/futm0807.html

Hope this helps.
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07-21-2006 03:43 AM  14 years ago
Henry

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Call me stupid or blind but where do put the servos on this thing? I see no locations on the frame anywhere?
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07-21-2006 10:18 AM  14 years ago
JappaUSA

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Hey Henry,

The cyclic and pitch servos are located in front at the head of the frame and in front of the motor. The collective servo is located directly beneath the swashplate. Then of course the tail servo is clamped onto the tail boom with holders. Hope that was helpful.
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07-23-2006 05:02 AM  14 years ago
aashu

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pictures
Looks good so far... had a few minor vibrations but I have to admit that it hovered nicely and i still have to balance everything..

BTW. Don't expect this baby to go in that super giant fuse you see in last picture
Garden State, NJ
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07-24-2006 01:47 AM  14 years ago
Isaac F

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The small steel bolts (1.5mm I guess) - the hex driver slips on a few , replaced with standard black bolts .
Hey aashu, nice pics, keep posting more BTW I read that jappausa.com is including better steel bolts in the kits.

Check here: New hardened screws


Isaac
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07-24-2006 02:50 PM  14 years ago
aashu

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Thanks
I hope to get a pack of those soon I realized that issue as well.

Will post some more pictures with all electronics installed .
Garden State, NJ
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07-25-2006 02:46 AM  14 years ago
Isaac F

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Hey aashu, if you want to go overkill, check these Bling Bling, Anodized Screws


Isaac

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07-25-2006 03:42 AM  14 years ago
aashu

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Hah
That's for ladies
Garden State, NJ
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08-02-2006 07:30 PM  14 years ago
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Wow you can get the Blinged barebones for $169, I remember paying $200 for a stock Shogun V1, What was I thinking two years ago.. -= I know there is Money in RC helicopters. I put it there=-
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08-03-2006 02:21 AM  14 years ago
rotorfly

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Hello,I was wanting to know if the Venom 3200 bl motor with a 10 tooth pinion, and a 20amp speed control would work with the Cyclone?It seemed to work with my Shogun2 pretty good.Also I have TP 1320 lipos to run it with.Thanks for the help!
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08-03-2006 02:27 AM  14 years ago
darkside212

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if it worked in your shogun2 it will work in the cyclone...you might want to try a 8-9T pinion though
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08-03-2006 02:37 AM  14 years ago
rotorfly

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Thank's for the quick answer,I will be ordering one imedeiately!
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