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02-12-2006 09:27 PM  12 years agoPost 1
3dwanabe

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Just wanted to show off my newly aquired Vario Sikorski S58. It's painted in German Marines colors. I thought it was a cool looking fantasy paint scheme but I found the full size version on the web.

After many hours of fussing with the head phasing, static tracking and engine tuning, I got it in the air. The hovering and slow forward was very smooth and stable. Not what I was expecting after hearing all the horror stories about flybarless heads.

Here are some pics:

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02-12-2006 09:35 PM  12 years agoPost 2
Blair

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Nice job!

B.

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02-12-2006 09:38 PM  12 years agoPost 3
OblongMushroom

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Very nice looking S58! Are you using the helitronix mixer to phase?
I would love to build this model some day. I just love the look of this bird.

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02-12-2006 09:59 PM  12 years agoPost 4
3dwanabe

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I wish I could take credit for the paint or detailing but I am the 3rd owner of this S58. Too bad Vario doesn't sell this model anymore because the tail rotor fairing and horizontal fin are missing. I'll scratch build those parts someday.

I did not use any electronics to set the main rotor phasing. I just rotated the swash follower until only the rearward and forward facing blades were moving with aileron input at the transmitter. This works prefectly as long as the head/blades are aligned to the centerline of the helicopter.

Roy

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02-12-2006 10:45 PM  12 years agoPost 5
Wemo

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Really nice...create fuselage choice for a vintage heli!

"How high do they go? Are those things hard too fly? How much do they cost?

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02-13-2006 04:38 AM  12 years agoPost 6
Gearhead

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boy that's really nice !!
Jim

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02-14-2006 02:28 AM  12 years agoPost 7
Charlie R

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Nice JOB Roy!
It looks great in the air !

Helicopters are a mass of rotating metal fatigue surrounding an oil leak !

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02-14-2006 03:13 AM  12 years agoPost 8
sjferrozzo

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I
WANT IT..... SENT ME THE BILL PAY PAL TO NITE.... WOW WHAT A HELI.....

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02-14-2006 03:39 AM  12 years agoPost 9
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That is a very cool helicopter. I remember seeing pictures of it somewhere before and thinking how cool it is. What kind of weight is necessary in the front to get a good CG? I would think quite a bit!

Is this the first time you've flown a multi-blade head? I have one but have not flown it yet so it's great to hear you did not find it as difficult as you thought it would be...

nick

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02-14-2006 05:21 AM  12 years agoPost 10
3dwanabe

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I was considering selling this helicopter after getting it airborne but I am enjoying it too much right now. Maybe after the Circumgyration event this year.

You may have seen this helicopter in the Rotor Kings video tape from 1995. It was flown very aggressively towards the end of the tape!

There is about 1 1/2 pounds of lead in the nose, but I will probably add more before trying fast forward flight. I've read that these heads like to fly with a nose heavy CG.

This is the first multi-blade, single rotor helicopter that I have flown. I was really pleasantly surprised how stable it is in hover and slow hovering circuits. I think most of this stability is due to the Vario blades. They are very flexible and the CG is very far to the front.

Those 4, heavy, 820mm blades store a tremendous amount of energy for auto-rotations. On the second flight last Saturday, the engine flamed out during a 10-15 foot hover. I got it back down safely and picked it back up for another 3 seconds of hover before it used up all the blade energy.

Roy

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02-14-2006 09:33 PM  12 years agoPost 11
JonMann

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Boy, that guy taking those pictures sure made you look good flying that heli

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02-15-2006 06:22 AM  12 years agoPost 12
Qrrambero

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I saw the guy taking the pictures. Short skiny hairless guy.
Do you know him

Ae

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02-15-2006 10:42 AM  12 years agoPost 13
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I'm just about to aquire one today....we must talk!!!
I'm converting mine to electric.
I will also be making a mould of it before I fly her, as a back-up

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02-15-2006 10:45 AM  12 years agoPost 14
Bell Bloke

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By the way, yours looks absolutely stunning!!!
Looks like you can fly it too.

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02-16-2006 02:42 PM  12 years agoPost 15
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Right, I've got mine, will post pics on Mon, can you still get those lovely blades, need a spare set.

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02-17-2006 12:52 AM  12 years agoPost 16
3dwanabe

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Bloke,

Yes, you can still get the blades.

Did you buy the one that was on Ebay?

Roy

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02-17-2006 11:11 AM  12 years agoPost 17
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I reluctantly swapped it for my Electric Lama, but at least I can build another Lama I suppose.
When you come to sell your Wessex if you do, give me a shout please as I would quite fancy another.
Do you know who has the original mould for the fus?
Oh and mine also has loads of lead in the nose too.
Here is my old Lama, it's been featured in Rotorworld a few times as has my electric Bell 47.


As for the Wessex, I'm toyong with the idea of either going electric or twin cylinder 4 stroke power.

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02-18-2006 12:26 AM  12 years agoPost 18
3dwanabe

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It must have been very painfull to let go of your Lama. I've been admiring it ever since I saw it in the magazine.

I don't know who is in possesion of the moulds. All I know for sure is that S-58 was originally sold by Vario. Hopefully they will bring it back sometime in the future.

I've seen silas fly his OS Gemini powered TSK. The sound of that twin would be a great match to this helicopter.

Good luck with your Wessex. I'm sure it's going to be a work of art.

Roy

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02-19-2006 04:02 AM  12 years agoPost 19
K2-tokyo

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Hi Guys,

I do not know the true availability, but some shop in switzerland:

http://www.modellsport.ch/

has the S-58 fuselage very resemble to VARIO's one.

Further, the following 2 shops also have rare fuselages including S-58:

http://www.dds-modelltechnik.de/

http://www.modelltechnik-jung.de/index.html

I am also interested in S-58 and some rare fuselages. However, my house never permits to maintain large models. So I and my friend Hino are going to make micro rare scale models. The following is one attempt to micro multi heads:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=477674

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02-19-2006 07:32 PM  12 years agoPost 20
drkite

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I don't know who is in possesion of the moulds. All I know for sure is that S-58 was originally sold by Vario. Hopefully they will bring it back sometime in the future.
This seems to be the real story: The original mold for the "VARIO" S-58 was once made by someone from Stuttgart/Germany. This guy sold the mold to JV Modellbau in Ulm/Germany. For some time then JV Modellbau supplied Vario with the fuses, but then somehow the business relationship between Drago Vesligay / JV Modellbau and Uli Streich / VARIO fast distroyed. Drago then stopped to deliver fuses to VARIO. Drago however still sells s-58 fuses, but it is difficult to deal with Drago.

There are other manufacturers of the S-58 fuse around but Drago claims that those are only selling copies of his "original" mold.

I doubt that Uli will sell the S-58 sometime in the near future.

Bernhard

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